Gender Specific Items

PrinceOfWorms

I am livid that most of the new style parlor items are gendered. I think its disturbing and disrespectful. I dont like my game playing experience disrupted by this negative bias.
I understand some options being race specific, a breton cant have argonian spines.
I can sympathize with beards being gendered, but it is extended to jewelry, markings, and other equipment.

I request that ESO remove the gender requirement for there Crown Store, and all previously purchased parlor items.

Danikat

The only gender-specific items I see in the Crown Store are the eye lashes and the beard. Are there others I've missed?

PrinceOfWorms

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Danikat wrote: »

The only gender-specific items I see in the Crown Store are the eye lashes and the beard. Are there others I've missed?

All of the jewelry, facial peircings, and some of the head gear.

Donum-Dei

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

PrinceOfWorms wrote: »

I am livid that most of the new style parlor items are gendered. I think its disturbing and disrespectful. I dont like my game playing experience disrupted by this negative bias.

Since when an item being a gender specific is being bias and disturbing? Really, disturbing? By being a gender specific between what is know to be female and male outfits?

Wow.

Abeille

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Donum-Dei wrote: »

PrinceOfWorms wrote: »

I am livid that most of the new style parlor items are gendered. I think its disturbing and disrespectful. I dont like my game playing experience disrupted by this negative bias.

Since when an item being a gender specific is being bias and disturbing? Really, disturbing? By being a gender specific between what is know to be female and male outfits?

Wow.

They are not talking about outfits, outfits are not gender-locked. They are talking about style parlor stuff like hair styles (the base game ones in the hair styles pack, since the others are not gender-locked) and jewelry. And some of this stuff is worn by npcs of the opposite gender, but are not available to player characters of the same gender as the npc. I am of the opinion that any customization options available to the npcs should be available to our characters too.

And honestly... I can see where OP is coming from. Guess which gender is the only one able to wear the hair style called "Management Material".

Rohamad_Ali

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

I never understood this . Guys can wear wedding dresses but hell no to butterfly eyelashes . You done crossed the line Son .

strikeback1247

Do people actually buy that stuff from the crown store?

ViscousSummer88

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

I totally agree, I was quite disgruntled to see that certain items had been restricted to genders!

With the amount of lore breaking things in the game my question is why?

Ghettokid

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

I just hope that someday zos will understand that wedding dress should be "fat male orc"-specific item

MornaBaine

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

All jewelry should definitely be available to both sexes.

Mivryna

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Mo' options mo' better. Crossdressing is fun!

WhiteCoatSyndrome

I had the understanding that some items were restricted due to the differences in the shape of the head, IOW to prevent clipping issues.

Bebopgroove

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

I understand about maybe the jewelry and facial markings, but not the beards. I play on console (which is generally more obnoxious than pc by leaps and bounds), and I could just see bearded ladies being churned out and flooding into the game zones, just for lols.

So no.

threefarms

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

No Bearded Ladies

Ironside

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

Please leave your PC brigade .......! out of gaming.

stimpy986b14_ESO

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

I am equally outraged that armors and costumes that are bare chested for males aren't for females!

Kelces

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

Imagine this...(be careful with your beverage)

Zaldan

wonder if they're gonna start making the dresses female only?

stimpy986b14_ESO

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Kelces wrote: »

Imagine this...(be careful with your beverage)

We already have this

Bookwyrm

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Definitely support de-gendering Style Parlor items. I get the race-specific stuff, because certain races have very specific head shapes, but the gender thing is pointless and unnecessary. They haven't gender-locked costumes, why should jewelry, hair styles, tats, etc. be gender-locked?

And personally, I think Sailor Man is beautiful.

bareheiny

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Costumes aren't gender locked, why should other items be?

Tamriel gets flooded with bearded ladies? Eh. If that's what floats your boat, go for it.

DarraghQXZ

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

No it's bade enough with Orcs in wedding dresses.

dsalter

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Everything but beards.

One of the male hair is perfect for my female char and a female hair is semy nice on a male but ofc cant have that

Whats worse is in the Thieves guild dlc theres a female using the MALE hairstyle I wanted to use on my female

Zeras_Of_Mournhold

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Im totally for making crown store cosmetics and cosmetics in general not gender restricted. After all, we can have our burly nord men wear redguard dresses and dance like a lady. Just as long as certain race specific cosmetics are kept to their race for continuity sake, then i'm totally for it.

BigBragg

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

If my male Orc can wear a wedding dress, he should at least be able to wear some matching earrings.

Nerouyn

First off, really loaded poll options. I'm not bothered much either way. But if you're going to be so blatantly biased and not even give a reasonable no option then I won't vote.

PrinceOfWorms wrote: »

I am livid that most of the new style parlor items are gendered. I think its disturbing and disrespectful.

Second, male and female heads don't use the same models. There would be work involved in making hairstyles even work for opposite genders. So being livid, disturbed and disrespected is... entirely your prerogative but seems unwarranted to me.

The Elder Scrolls franchise and ESO in particular are very socially progressive. Gay characters, lots of females in positions of authority, the bosmer flipping gender roles with women being bigger and leaning more towards the physical and men smaller and more towards the spiritual, argonians possibly changing genders. A lore article with multiple wonderful messages about love which fly in the face of 'tradition'. And yeah, men can already wear dresses courtesy of costumes.

dodgehopper_ESO

I want Argonian spikes and fins for my Nord and I want it NOW!

Adventurer

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

I agree, I'm all for non-gender locked items, clothes and hairstyles. After all, you would be able to wear it in real life if you chose to, so why not in the game? Esp. since there are dresses available to wear a man already.

pirate3

Gendered items, I want a limited gender spectrum.

PrinceOfWorms wrote: »

I am livid that most of the new style parlor items are gendered. I think its disturbing and disrespectful.

What's disturbing is that anyone should become 'livid' over something as utterly inconsequential as this.

emilyhyoyeon

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

I'm honestly surprised at how many people actually care about other players' male characters wearing feminine things and vv lol... especially when it does essentially nothing to the players who decide not to dress like that. it only restricts other players

Recremen

No gendered items, freedom of gender expression!

Bebopgroove wrote: »

I understand about maybe the jewelry and facial markings, but not the beards. I play on console (which is generally more obnoxious than pc by leaps and bounds), and I could just see bearded ladies being churned out and flooding into the game zones, just for lols.

So no.

I think beards on the "female" model might actually help make a better range of "softer-looking" male characters. Lets face it, in real life there's way less sexual dimorphism than what appears in this game. ZOS did a phenomenal job with customization in general, but there are some edge cases like that which make the game world seem a bit more limited. And the eyelashes thing just doesn't make sense at all.