Vet White Gold Tower Has Been Soloed!

Vaoh · October 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Tarrin wrote: »

NERF SORCS!!!!!!11111111

I knew this would come up....

Plz don't ZOS. The only reason a Sorc can do this is because of sheer luck in class design.

If others had Streak/Pets they could do it too

Plz no nerfs cause ONE PLAYER soloed vWGT

I'm still hopeful spellcrafting will allow pets for other classes some day. It always irks me that we can 'summon' daedroths, dwemer etc with gear, but can't use those skills as a skill. Props on the achievement. This reminds me of the fun I had with my Sorc early in the game.

It will. Confirmed! We have video of both Summon Fire Atronach and Summon Familiar (spectral wolf) being casted using crafted spells back in 2014. So yeah it'll eventually become possible when Spellcrafting comes out

olsborg wrote: »

@Vaoh try soloing vICP please.

Like I just said and @anitajoneb17_ESO pointed out.... it's impossible....

Reasons:
1) You need to kill Ibomoez the Flesh Sculptor. I admittedly haven't gotten around to attempting a solo of this boss yet, but I can tell you that if my pet can't aggro him (and take the interruptible one-shot attack for me), there is no chance of anyone soloing that fight.
2) Even if I did kill Ibomez, I can confirm that Streak is not quick enough to pull both levers quick enough to open the gate to Lord Warden's Council.

Only a Mag NB has a better shot at opening that gate than my Magicka Sorc, and Magicka NB cannot kill Ibomez.

So yeah..... whichever way you look at it, Vet Imperial City Prison is not soloable

NewBlacksmurf · October 2016

Meanwhile I struggle to complete it on Vet with 4 ppl over 300 - 501 CP

Molag_Crow · October 2016

This is epic.

I don't blame you for soloing dungeons on your Sorc. I gave up with Cyrodiil a few months ago after the huge amount of cheesy stamina builds running rampant in there.

Eleusian · October 2016

Great tip on the cage bypass mechanic.

GERMANO-THE-IMPERIAL · October 2016

Very beautiful !!! Is there a build ???

Vaoh · October 2016

GERMANO-THE-IMPERIAL wrote: »

Very beautiful !!! Is there a build ???

Yup

I'll make a post about it very soon. Personally I think it's remarkable that you've been the first to ask since I completed this dungeon!

Mic1007 · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

GERMANO-THE-IMPERIAL wrote: »

Very beautiful !!! Is there a build ???

Yup I'll make a post about it very soon. Personally I think it's remarkable that you've been the first to ask since I completed this dungeon!

Never actually crossed my mind to ask.

Own · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

You did it, congratz

Cradle of Shadows next?

Ty!

Funny you mention Vet Cradle next! I've already soloed all but Velidreth on my first (and only) solo run. Then I got kicked to the login screen and everything reset...... so yes! Vet Cradle is next

How did you get past the cc on the 4th boss?

DemonDruaga · October 2016

Good job there

We did it as a duo, magicka nb and templar, but the dot on the fire attro boss was really hard, even shared.
Awesome to just do it solo !
And to those that fear a difficulty increase: the moment you and your team will be maxed out you will start to think at soloing / duo certain content too. When you pull a group dps around 90k(and higher) in a 4 man dungeon everything will start to feel too easy and gets boring.

Vaoh · October 2016

l3alls wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

You did it, congratz

Cradle of Shadows next?

Ty!

Funny you mention Vet Cradle next! I've already soloed all but Velidreth on my first (and only) solo run. Then I got kicked to the login screen and everything reset...... so yes! Vet Cradle is next

How did you get past the cc on the 4th boss?

I slotted Summon Volatile Familar. Summon Clannfear works just as well.

Pets can aggro Dranos Velador (4th boss), who will use his unavoidable CC-Execute on whoever he is aggroed to.

Essentially, my pets will take the hit rather than myself.

Vaoh · October 2016

****Builds used to Solo Vet White Gold Tower****

• Atrributes - 64/0/0
• All gear is CP160
• Race - High Elf
• Mundus - The Atronach

The Adjudicator, Three Dragonknights, Molag Kena

• Hat of Julianos - Max Magicka - Infused
• Epaulets of Julianos - Max Magicka - Divines
• Robe of Julianos - Max Magicka - Infused
• Gloves of Julianos - Max Magicka - Infused
• Belt of Julianos - Max Magicka - Divines
• Magnus' Pants - Max Magicka - Infused
• Magnus' Shoes - Max Magicka - Divines
• Necklace of Willpower - Spell Damage - Max Magicka
• Ring of Willpower - Spell Damage - Max Magicka
• Ring of Willpower - Spell Damage - Max Magicka
• Magnus' Lightning/Fire Staff - Shock/Fire Enchant - Sharpened
• Magnus' Restoration Staff - Restore Magicka Enchant - Defending

The Planar Inhibitor

• Gossamer Hat - Max Magicka - Divines
• Gossamer Epaulets - Max Magicka - Infused
• Shirt of The Twice-Born Star - Max Magicka - Divines
• Gloves of The Twice-Born Star - Max Magicka - Divines
• Gossamer Sash - Max Magicka - Divines
• Magnus' Pants - Max Magicka - Infused
• Magnus' Shoes - Max Magicka - Divines
• Winterborn Necklace - Magicka Recovery - Max Magicka
• Winterborn Ring - Magicka Recovery - Max Magicka
• Winterborn Ring - Magicka Recovery - Max Magicka
• Magnus' Lightning Staff - Shock Enchant - Sharpened
• Magnus' Restoration Staff - Restore Magicka Enchant - Defending

Here it is for those who wanted it! Yeah.... my gear was not optimal

Many of these set pieces were crafted back when I didn't know which traits were best.

These fights all come down to player skill and experience. Should you attempt these fights, know that there are much better gear setups that I wished I could have used.

Also note that if someone eventually attempts to claim the #2 spot for soloing White Gold Tower... well just keep in mind that these individuals got to watch my videos and take all of my in-depth advice from this thread. Had I seen this thread before I attempted this solo, I could have avoided most of my deaths/mistakes. Would still love to see someone else beat it though

Veteran Cradle of Shadows is still next. Velidreth has been relentless!

Hope it helped!

UltimaJoe777 · October 2016

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Destruent · October 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Why would they? i doubt they'll ever buff/change dungeons again.

GERMANO-THE-IMPERIAL · October 2016

Vaoh,thank you for the informations !
Also make a video build ?
Armor=light ?
Champion-Points ? A video would be very good !

UltimaJoe777 · October 2016

Destruent wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Why would they? i doubt they'll ever buff/change dungeons again.

As it stands right now almost all of the content in this game is possible to solo. This does not do much to encourage group play. If Zenimax wishes to promote group play more, especially within dungeons, they need to make some changes. If not then I guess it's Elder Scrolls Online: Who Needs Allies

P.S. If Zenimax changes their stance on Tanks then group play could be better built upon.

Frozenmosquito · October 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Why would they? i doubt they'll ever buff/change dungeons again.

As it stands right now almost all of the content in this game is possible to solo. This does not do much to encourage group play. If Zenimax wishes to promote group play more, especially within dungeons, they need to make some changes. If not then I guess it's Elder Scrolls Online: Who Needs Allies

P.S. If Zenimax changes their stance on Tanks then group play could be better built upon.

go solo vROM, vCOS, any of the vet trials / evena non vet trial. solo/world/4man content is a joke anyways and shouldnt be taken too seriously. And your logic is flawd anyways even if you can solo a dungeon it doesnt encourage you to do it over a group, unless you are looking for a personal challenge at a specific time

Destruent · October 2016

Frozenmosquito wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Why would they? i doubt they'll ever buff/change dungeons again.

As it stands right now almost all of the content in this game is possible to solo. This does not do much to encourage group play. If Zenimax wishes to promote group play more, especially within dungeons, they need to make some changes. If not then I guess it's Elder Scrolls Online: Who Needs Allies

P.S. If Zenimax changes their stance on Tanks then group play could be better built upon.

go solo vROM, vCOS, any of the vet trials / evena non vet trial. solo/world/4man content is a joke anyways and shouldnt be taken too seriously. And your logic is flawd anyways even if you can solo a dungeon it doesnt encourage you to do it over a group, unless you are looking for a personal challenge at a specific time

The problem still stands. For example most Bosses don't even require a tank...doing so would encourage groupplay. Why should i play as a group if i can just nuke everything with 4 DPS?

UltimaJoe777 · October 2016

Destruent wrote: »

Frozenmosquito wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Good job Vaoh

Now let's see how Zenimax responds to this, if with anything beyond applause

Why would they? i doubt they'll ever buff/change dungeons again.

As it stands right now almost all of the content in this game is possible to solo. This does not do much to encourage group play. If Zenimax wishes to promote group play more, especially within dungeons, they need to make some changes. If not then I guess it's Elder Scrolls Online: Who Needs Allies

P.S. If Zenimax changes their stance on Tanks then group play could be better built upon.

go solo vROM, vCOS, any of the vet trials / evena non vet trial. solo/world/4man content is a joke anyways and shouldnt be taken too seriously. And your logic is flawd anyways even if you can solo a dungeon it doesnt encourage you to do it over a group, unless you are looking for a personal challenge at a specific time

The problem still stands. For example most Bosses don't even require a tank...doing so would encourage groupplay. Why should i play as a group if i can just nuke everything with 4 DPS?

This very DPS race and the fact Tanks are not encouraged is why so many bosses can be soloed. The ONLY places that cannot be soloed are those that REQUIRE you have a group of a certain amount of people (like AA) to progress or bosses with mechanics one cannot solo. So you see Frozenmsquito, encouraging Tanks would allow Zenimax to beef up bosses so pure DPS builds are at risk of being one-shotted thus making roles more viable instead of all DPS, as Destruent pointed out.

Seriously, Zenimax can beef up the Health of bosses all they want and claim they are group content but so many builds can solo the supposed group content that it's actually rather pointless to call it that.

Finisherofwar · October 2016

Hey @Vaoh really big fan of what you did here. I am the guy who did vcoa hard mode solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLMd7mdwduc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I wanted to give you a bit of info about vicp as I tried to solo it, you can skip the levers part by having harvester creeping winter you through the gate thus skipping the levers. I attempted to solo it but the flesh sculptor is just too much, pet doesn't work he just goes after you to tenderize and every attack from everything there snares (Bosses light attacks and atros light attacks even if you dodge atro light attack u still get snared) so it makes it easier to get tenderized. I tried a lot of things (Overload build, pet build, aoe build, sustain build) and got him to 50% solo but if it's possible it is unimaginably hard as even while focusing the atros they are still hard to kill because you need to constantly kite the boss to avoid getting tenderized and can't effectively utilize aoes during the fight.

So if you can somehow kill the flesh sculptor then you can skip the lever bosses by getting creeping wintered through both gates.

Do I think it's possible to solo flesh sculptor? Probably not because dealing with atros is all but impossible because you can't make e'm sit in aoes which means you have to stop them all before spawn but to do this you have to do the synergy mechanic which makes you stand still while tossing on a pretty long animation that will eventually get u tenderized.

Destruent · October 2016

While this creeping winter tactic sounds good for the first 2 gates, how do you get through the 3rd gate after lord wardens council? There is no harvester to help you...or can you somehow use the previous one at this point?

Vaoh · October 2016

Finisherofwar wrote: »

Hey @Vaoh really big fan of what you did here. I am the guy who did vcoa hard mode solo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLMd7mdwduc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I wanted to give you a bit of info about vicp as I tried to solo it, you can skip the levers part by having harvester creeping winter you through the gate thus skipping the levers. I attempted to solo it but the flesh sculptor is just too much, pet doesn't work he just goes after you to tenderize and every attack from everything there snares (Bosses light attacks and atros light attacks even if you dodge atro light attack u still get snared) so it makes it easier to get tenderized. I tried a lot of things (Overload build, pet build, aoe build, sustain build) and got him to 50% solo but if it's possible it is unimaginably hard as even while focusing the atros they are still hard to kill because you need to constantly kite the boss to avoid getting tenderized and can't effectively utilize aoes during the fight.

So if you can somehow kill the flesh sculptor then you can skip the lever bosses by getting creeping wintered through both gates.

Do I think it's possible to solo flesh sculptor? Probably not because dealing with atros is all but impossible because you can't make e'm sit in aoes which means you have to stop them all before spawn but to do this you have to do the synergy mechanic which makes you stand still while tossing on a pretty long animation that will eventually get u tenderized.

@Finisherofwar Nice solo! And ty for the Creeping Winter tip to bypass the levers. I never thought of that!

I have a few new ideas for bypassing the tenderize mechanic. People said vWGT was unsoloable at every turn and look how that turned out

Gonna eventually give Ibomez a shot but chances are this is not a soloable boss. We will see. Knowing that I can bypass the Lever mechanic gives me hope.

Vaoh · October 2016

Destruent wrote: »

While this creeping winter tactic sounds good for the first 2 gates, how do you get through the 3rd gate after lord wardens council? There is no harvester to help you...or can you somehow use the previous one at this point?

And within 1 minute of thinking I can bypass the lever mechanic....

....my hopes are crushed once again

Destruent · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

While this creeping winter tactic sounds good for the first 2 gates, how do you get through the 3rd gate after lord wardens council? There is no harvester to help you...or can you somehow use the previous one at this point?

And within 1 minute of thinking I can bypass the lever mechanic....

....my hopes are crushed once again

I'm just asking, maybe @Finisherofwar has an idea for this. The previous harvester should be still alive at this point so maybe it is possible to use his ability to get through the gate

Finisherofwar · October 2016

There is only one harvester and she's on the 2nd stage of levers. Here is how it goes:

1st stage clear adds pull lever (only 1 lever to be pulled so no problem.

2nd stage you put ur back to gate get glitched through then you don't start boss fight you make sure you have agro from harvester and she doesn't un agro through fight she keeps attacking u while u fight boss through gate. You just finish boss then use same harvester winter shots through gate to get u through next one.

Vaoh · October 2016

Finisherofwar wrote: »

There is only one harvester and she's on the 2nd stage of levers. Here is how it goes:

1st stage clear adds pull lever (only 1 lever to be pulled so no problem.

2nd stage you put ur back to gate get glitched through then you don't start boss fight you make sure you have agro from harvester and she doesn't un agro through fight she keeps attacking u while u fight boss through gate. You just finish boss then use same harvester winter shots through gate to get u through next one.

There is a chance, but Lord Warden's Council will be made much more difficult that way. Maybe the Harvester can be aggroed through the gate again using Caltrops or Impulse?

Awesome ideas nevertheless. Again, I'll try my best.

The current "realistic" solo Vet dungeon for me atm is Vet Cradle of Shadows. I've killed all but Velidreth (71% health) in there. Atm I am doing lots of group PvE though and trying to get some specific Vet trial gear. Solo Vet dungeon runs have been halted for now

burglar · October 2016

@Vaoh I leveled up a magicka sorc during the holiday xp event, and did it so fast that I'm not entirely sure where to begin with a build, other than ones found on popular websites. So, I am wondering, do you have a general approach for when you initially try a dungeon solo? Also, after you try it a few times, you must move your abilities around, would you say certain abilities are good for specific fights? Like, which abilities do you use typically in a melee fight, or a ranged fight? Trying to get a head start on learning abilities, and just soloing overland bosses.

Also, do you think the wyrd tree set would be useful for this type of soloing? Or do you encounter very many debuffs?

Thanks!

HegemonIQ · October 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

Why can't our damage show like that on console we should be able to see it

This is on PS4 that I soloed Vet White Gold Tower.

Damage does show up like that on console

Have you soloed again since the 1Tam patch? Just wondering if you've noticed a difference in the timing mechanics. We noticed a difference in our Xbone runs.

KraziJoe · October 2016

Wow...and I have trouble with 3 mercs just sitting on the beach...

Good job!

Vaoh · October 2016

ProbablePaul wrote: »

@Vaoh I leveled up a magicka sorc during the holiday xp event, and did it so fast that I'm not entirely sure where to begin with a build, other than ones found on popular websites. So, I am wondering, do you have a general approach for when you initially try a dungeon solo? Also, after you try it a few times, you must move your abilities around, would you say certain abilities are good for specific fights? Like, which abilities do you use typically in a melee fight, or a ranged fight? Trying to get a head start on learning abilities, and just soloing overland bosses.

Also, do you think the wyrd tree set would be useful for this type of soloing? Or do you encounter very many debuffs?

Thanks!

For solo PvE builds?

I'm constantly shuffling around skills and trying different gear out to see what works best for me. The key is to find what you're comfortable with so you don't make any mistakes.

When I first attempt to solo a dungeon, chances are I have already run it numerous times with a group and know how much trouble I'll have when killing stuff. Trash mobs are always easy to kill, and you can usually not die even when specced fully for damage. Line of sighting to stack adds together and then dropping your Ult burns them down quickly.

Certain bosses require a pet. Some require Efficient Purge. Some have DPS checks while others require you to have lots of magicka recovery (Velidreth, Planar Inhibitor) or even stamina recovery/cost reduction (Valkyn Skoria). Many are easy enough to kill with your typical DPS setup (usually 2x Monster set/5x Julianos/3x Willpower/Maelstrom Staves). Generally yes I do switch up my gear/skills though to accomodate for certain boss fights.

As for ranged vs. melee.... All of my attacks are ranged so it doesn't mater much to me. Just slot Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Elements and then spam Force Pulse for your DPS when running solo. Keep up your DoTs and you're good. Remember: survivability > damage - no one will back you up.

I wouldn't use Wyrd Tree's Blessing. The best sets imo are the ones providing big stats bonuses. In Overland Boss fights I'd imagine you could solo most of them with pure DPS setups

gl!

Vaoh · October 2016

HegemonIQ wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

Why can't our damage show like that on console we should be able to see it

This is on PS4 that I soloed Vet White Gold Tower.

Damage does show up like that on console

Have you soloed again since the 1Tam patch? Just wondering if you've noticed a difference in the timing mechanics. We noticed a difference in our Xbone runs.

I've run vWGT with a group in One Tamriel and noticed no differences from Shadows of the Hist. Also, none of the DLC dungeons were touched this patch.