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This item-scaling is just... wrong. please do smthing

Lumbermill_Emperor
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and you telling me its intended, right?
on the same cp120 hero

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  • ThePaleItalian
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    Maybe because its part of a set and the other is a trash ring drop?
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  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    no, i think its just ZOS scaling it
  • Spearshard
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    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.
  • Waffennacht
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    Spearshard wrote: »
    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.

    Which annoys me to no end. Lvl 39 has better stats than 531...

    I guess they need the help...
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  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    @Spearshard its the same toon on the picture
  • Elijah_Crow
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    Spearshard wrote: »
    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.


    Ding ding.. We have a winner.

    Low level players have less skill points and passives which (when higher level) would augment attacks and recovery. Just because a lower level player has a larger stat pool or recovery does not make them more effective than a higher level player with smaller pools or recovery. In fact in most cases they will be less effective.
    Edited by Elijah_Crow on October 14, 2016 8:29PM
  • Elijah_Crow
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    Spearshard wrote: »
    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.

    Which annoys me to no end. Lvl 39 has better stats than 531...

    I guess they need the help...

    They do not have better stats. Some stats may appear better but if you were to take into consideration all stats including those provided by champion points, the 531 wins hands down. You are only considering a small portion of the stats which provide character strength.

    Giving them larger base pools is necessary for the one Tamriel scaling and without it, they would not be viable..

    Edited by Elijah_Crow on October 14, 2016 8:34PM
  • Runs
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    Spearshard wrote: »
    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.

    Which annoys me to no end. Lvl 39 has better stats than 531...

    I guess they need the help...

    They do not have better stats. Some stats may appear better but if you were to take into consideration all stats including those provided by champion points, the 531 wins hands down. You are only considering a small portion of the stats which provide character strength.

    Giving them larger base pools is necessary for the one Tamriel scaling and without it, they would not be viable..

    That assumes the level 39 is not an alt who has max cp.
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  • Danksta
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    Spearshard wrote: »
    Low level toons have better stats to make up for a lack of skills and passives.

    Which annoys me to no end. Lvl 39 has better stats than 531...

    I guess they need the help...

    They do not have better stats. Some stats may appear better but if you were to take into consideration all stats including those provided by champion points, the 531 wins hands down. You are only considering a small portion of the stats which provide character strength.

    Giving them larger base pools is necessary for the one Tamriel scaling and without it, they would not be viable..

    But the problem with that is, what if the level 39 has 500+ CPs? The scaling isn't any different.
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  • DPG76
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    lower level have less attribute points making their max stats like health , mag and stam lower vs 160cp , it;s i guess to make up with that
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    The lower level doesn't get usage of champion points until level 50. There is no difference between an alt newb and a n00b newb
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  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    @PS4_ZeColmeia i dont know how its on PS4, but we, PC master race, can spent CP on pre-50 lvl alts, if we have at least 1 50+ hero
  • NSObject
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    The lower level doesn't get usage of champion points until level 50

    What? No. CP are available to all your characters regardless of level.
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Available, but not applied. You get 0 benefit until that character is 50. It's the same reason alts don't add to cp until 50
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  • Amsel_McKay
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    Available, but not applied. You get 0 benefit until that character is 50. It's the same reason alts don't add to cp until 50

    This is wrong... the CPs work at level 3. How can you tell easy as soon as you add the CPs to passives they are applied, everything from Crit damage % and harvest times.
  • TheSeer
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    Maybe because its part of a set and the other is a trash ring drop?

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  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    @PS4_ZeColmeia
    RTFM

    they applied
  • Qyrk
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    So because low level players were given more stat pool makes them better than a cp501? Sometimes I feel like the thinking of some people in the community is so off
  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    guys can you read? its not player scaled it items
    player is the same
  • SublimeSparo
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    Have you tried equipping both and seeing if it changes or checking char sheet while equipped in case ui bug?
    Edited by SublimeSparo on October 15, 2016 7:38AM
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  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    i tried
    low level ring actually better
  • SublimeSparo
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    Wish i had low level char or a free slot, lv4 willpower/ agility set would be OP as ***
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    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
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    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
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    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
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    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
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  • notimetocare
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    A lvl 4 needs more stats to perfom the same... Kinda simple
  • Lumbermill_Emperor
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    A lvl 4 needs more stats to perfom the same... Kinda simple

    but on the picture lvl cp120 hero
  • Glamdring
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    Offcoure your CPs are applied from lvl3. Where did u get that idea from? Before lvl50 no cps used?!?!?!
  • LaiTash
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    Well low level jewelry is much harder to obtain, so... makes sence... i guess....
    Edited by LaiTash on October 15, 2016 8:37AM
  • dsalter
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    Available, but not applied. You get 0 benefit until that character is 50. It's the same reason alts don't add to cp until 50

    wrong. i noticed a massive spike of increased damage on new alts after applying CP.
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  • Dubhliam
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    Is this a thread whining about...
    ... low level OP?

    Did someone get their asses handed to them in Cyro by a level 20?

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  • Skcarkden
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    Dubhliam wrote: »
    Is this a thread whining about...
    ... low level OP?

    Did someone get their asses handed to them in Cyro by a level 20?

    QQ

    Sounds more like many people in this thread are waiting to have their brains handed to them. The OP clearly said they are on the same character for both images. It has nothing at all to do with low level/high level differences.
  • Izaki
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    Available, but not applied. You get 0 benefit until that character is 50. It's the same reason alts don't add to cp until 50

    Please, stop spreading misinformation.
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