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Vampire Drain Essence

Vaerth
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I have not played in about a year, has any changes happen to Vampire to help with Drain Essence? I know they got a few changes like less fire damage, etc. But when I read the ESO-Skills site (skill calculator) it no longer mentioned that it could be cast once per target (long cooldown, think it was 2 minutes). Anyway, has this changed?
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  • dsalter
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    I have not played in about a year, has any changes happen to Vampire to help with Drain Essence? I know they got a few changes like less fire damage, etc. But when I read the ESO-Skills site (skill calculator) it no longer mentioned that it could be cast once per target (long cooldown, think it was 2 minutes). Anyway, has this changed?

    the heal is percent based similar to dragonsblood but also stuns and can be spammed.
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  • Alucardo
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    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.
  • Vaerth
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.
    Pact Bloodwraith
  • Alucardo
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.

    Ah yes, that also works differently than it used to. You actually spend a lot longer in stages now, so you can stay as stage 1 for an excessive amount of time, but if you use vampire skills it goes up by 30 minutes or something. So the more you use vampire abilities, the quicker your stages will rise.
    Some Vampire passives are locked to specific stages now though, so it's actually quite beneficial to not feed.
    Edited by Alucardo on October 14, 2016 12:48PM
  • Vaerth
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.

    Ah yes, that also works differently than it used to. You actually spend a lot longer in stages now, so you can stay as stage 1 for an excessive amount of time, but if you use vampire skills it goes up by 30 minutes or something. So the more you use vampire abilities, the quicker your stages will rise.
    Some Vampire passives are locked to specific stages now though, so it's actually quite beneficial to not feed.

    Oh, that is certainly different lol.

    One last question if you do not mind. Has the vampire stage appearances changed at all or are we still Sith Zombies at stage 4?
    Pact Bloodwraith
  • feyii
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    the appearance has stayed the same, as it always was
  • Alucardo
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.

    Ah yes, that also works differently than it used to. You actually spend a lot longer in stages now, so you can stay as stage 1 for an excessive amount of time, but if you use vampire skills it goes up by 30 minutes or something. So the more you use vampire abilities, the quicker your stages will rise.
    Some Vampire passives are locked to specific stages now though, so it's actually quite beneficial to not feed.

    Oh, that is certainly different lol.

    One last question if you do not mind. Has the vampire stage appearances changed at all or are we still Sith Zombies at stage 4?

    Hah, yeah still Sith Zombies at stage 4
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    You can use skins to overwrite the pale colour of being a vampire.
  • Vaerth
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.

    Ah yes, that also works differently than it used to. You actually spend a lot longer in stages now, so you can stay as stage 1 for an excessive amount of time, but if you use vampire skills it goes up by 30 minutes or something. So the more you use vampire abilities, the quicker your stages will rise.
    Some Vampire passives are locked to specific stages now though, so it's actually quite beneficial to not feed.

    Oh, that is certainly different lol.

    One last question if you do not mind. Has the vampire stage appearances changed at all or are we still Sith Zombies at stage 4?

    Hah, yeah still Sith Zombies at stage 4

    Thanks buddy! You help was wonderful!
    Pact Bloodwraith
  • Dracane
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    Essence drain has a powerful base damage, it would be a good option for dual wield Sorcs.

    Sadly, it only has a 12 meters range, is interruptable and it takes 1 second before the first tick deals damage.
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    Trinimac my ward,
    and Magnus my mind.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Essence drain has a powerful base damage, it would be a good option for dual wield Sorcs.

    Sadly, it only has a 12 meters range, is interruptable and it takes 1 second before the first tick deals damage.

    I haven't tested this, but when you block cast it or weapon swap cancel the ability during the drain, it actually continues to run while letting you use other abilities at the same time.. when you do this, is it still interruptable?
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    If the answer to the above question is "No", I could think of a fun little niche DW Sorc build.

    5pc Vampire Lord (Increase spell damage of vampire abilities by 400 and decrease cost by 5%)
    5pc Soulshine (Increase cast time and channeled abilities spell damage by 450)

    In total, that's an additional 850 spell damage to your invigorating drain, which also gives back a lot of Ultimate. Considering on Sorc you have 15% reduced ulti cost + 5% reduced cost from Vampire Lord, you'll be spamming bats non stop.

    Now, with a 12 meter range, no doubt you'll be up close. So perhaps Malubeth would be a good 2pc option if you want to continue with the whole "health leech" aspect of being a Vampire. When it procs it should increase the healing you get from drain by 30% also. All the sets kind of work together in a disgusting, Vampiric harmony. I like it.

    Boom. Theorycrafting.

    Edited by Alucardo on October 14, 2016 1:39PM
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Essence drain has a powerful base damage, it would be a good option for dual wield Sorcs.

    Sadly, it only has a 12 meters range, is interruptable and it takes 1 second before the first tick deals damage.

    I haven't tested this, but when you block cast it or weapon swap cancel the ability during the drain, it actually continues to run while letting you use other abilities at the same time.. when you do this, is it still interruptable?

    Yea, there is some kind of bug that I've noticed as well.
    But be shouldn't determine, if an ability is good or not, based on their bugs :D because once they get fixed, the abilities become bad again
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    Trinimac my ward,
    and Magnus my mind.
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    If the answer to the above question is "No", I could think of a fun little niche DW Sorc build.

    5pc Vampire Lord (Increase spell damage of vampire abilities by 400 and decrease cost by 5%)
    5pc Soulshine (Increase cast time and channeled abilities spell damage by 450)

    In total, that's an additional 850 spell damage to your invigorating drain, which also gives back a lot of Ultimate. Considering on Sorc you have 15% reduced ulti cost + 5% reduced cost from Vampire Lord, you'll be spamming bats non stop.

    Now, with a 12 meter range, no doubt you'll be up close. So perhaps Malubeth would be a good 2pc option if you want to continue with the whole "health leech" aspect of being a Vampire. When it procs it should increase the healing you get from drain by 30% also. All the sets kind of work together in a disgusting, Vampiric harmony. I like it.

    Boom. Theorycrafting.

    You're cute, Brad.
    But remember that any half decent player can just bash your drain or take one step back to escape the range :) So your damage will be horrible.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac my ward,
    and Magnus my mind.
  • Alucardo
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    If the answer to the above question is "No", I could think of a fun little niche DW Sorc build.

    5pc Vampire Lord (Increase spell damage of vampire abilities by 400 and decrease cost by 5%)
    5pc Soulshine (Increase cast time and channeled abilities spell damage by 450)

    In total, that's an additional 850 spell damage to your invigorating drain, which also gives back a lot of Ultimate. Considering on Sorc you have 15% reduced ulti cost + 5% reduced cost from Vampire Lord, you'll be spamming bats non stop.

    Now, with a 12 meter range, no doubt you'll be up close. So perhaps Malubeth would be a good 2pc option if you want to continue with the whole "health leech" aspect of being a Vampire. When it procs it should increase the healing you get from drain by 30% also. All the sets kind of work together in a disgusting, Vampiric harmony. I like it.

    Boom. Theorycrafting.

    You're cute, Brad.
    But remember that any half decent player can just bash your drain or take one step back to escape the range :) So your damage will be horrible.

    Heh, yeah not the most practical of builds, but I'm just wanting to see how much damage I can pump out of invigorating drain =D
    Also, if you animation cancel the drain, half the time people don't even realise it's latched onto them.
  • Magicka_DK
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    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    You can cast essence more than once on a target now. Of course if they are CC immune they won't be stunned, but you can still continue to use drain on them.

    Wow, sounds very cool. Thanks for the help!

    Now if only I could pick a vampire stage and not worry about keeping up on feeding lol.

    You can its a certain drink to lower stages. And spam abilities to raise it
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