Why dont do this unexpected maintenance during NA primetime?

tat2mano

Like the title says,
its always within EU playing time...
And when something goes wrong in maint the techs are sleeping cause it middle on the night in Murika....

Bigevilpeter

Stop with the weekly maintenance please since they are useless, just save the maintenance for when there is actually a reason to do, like today. I actually wouldn't be surprised if yesterdays maintenance was the reason for the issues that happened and the need to do another one. Every time after the maintenance there are a ton of issues that weren't there before and nothing is fixed.

Please STAHP!!!!

MalakithAlamahdi

They hopefully fixed the grouping big with that. If so, I can only salute them.

KingYogi415

Some one has to beta test the bugs for us console plebeians

NovaShadow

I was fine yesterday, today after the patch every single skill i use is delayed. Doesn't matter where or what I'm doing it's all delayed. Ping/FPS are normal. Only thing that changed overnight was the patch. Whatever it broke for me I hope they fix it.

At least this maint doesn't start till 8pm my time, beats those 4pm starts.

I_killed_Vivec

You're on the NA server?

You see there's the little problem of access to the EU serer that was screwed up with the new launcher, and supposed to be fixed in yesterday's update - but it wasn't.

It is due to be fixed today... so there really is quite a big reason for today's maintenance

SantieClaws

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Workerdroid7

If we are lucky, the maintenance today will actually fix the things that yesterday's maintenance was supposed to fix.... otherwise, look for more maintenance tomorrow. They will eventually get it right.....

The_Saint

The_Saint wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/296650/hotfix-11-10-16-probleme-mit-gruppen-in-cyrodiil-pc-mac

Maintenance ~3hrs...

Some cyro group fix, but not all. Still kicks out of group when offline people are in group...
No! EU server login fix

Ackwalan

SantieClaws wrote: »

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

You're hooked on Westworld already, aren't you.

SantieClaws

Ackwalan wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

You're hooked on Westworld already, aren't you.

Ever so slightly perhaps yes ...

And not trusting the NPCs quite as much as she used to.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Ackwalan

SantieClaws wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

You're hooked on Westworld already, aren't you.

Ever so slightly perhaps yes ...

And not trusting the NPCs quite as much as she used to.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

The character Anthony Hopkins plays, actually died long ago and his 'bot' is now running the show.



Oh, that might be a spoiler so don't read it.

Vipstaakki

Are you serious?! Another thread complaining about a maintenance schedule that you asked to be performed in the first place.

SamboJ

Seriously??? third of fourth time in a 2 week period. I pay a subscription and every time I have a few hours spare to play uninterrupted the server is down for maintenance, how long is this maintenance is going to take? ZOS moderator! A time-frame would show good character :P

The maintenance time is really bad, I suppose someone in the world has to draw the shortest straw all the time, honestly feels like my region of the planet is being picked on though. Killing the game at 7-8pm all the time here

Malmai

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Stop with the weekly maintenance please since they are useless, just save the maintenance for when there is actually a reason to do, like today. I actually wouldn't be surprised if yesterdays maintenance was the reason for the issues that happened and the need to do another one. Every time after the maintenance there are a ton of issues that weren't there before and nothing is fixed.

Please STAHP!!!!

8 hours downtime today as well ZOS at its best...

Agalloch

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/296577/hotfix-10-11-16-grouping-issue-in-cyrodiil#latest

3 hours minimum for a hotfix.

I hope they will fix also the EU realm selection issues.....I'm sure they are loosing players every day because of this ( only a small part of the player base visit the forums)

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Caligamy_ESO

Ackwalan wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

You're hooked on Westworld already, aren't you.

Ever so slightly perhaps yes ...

And not trusting the NPCs quite as much as she used to.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

The character Anthony Hopkins plays, actually died long ago and his 'bot' is now running the show.

Oh, that might be a spoiler so don't read it.

Khaos_Bane

Is anyone able to login to the game? I cannot get my launcher to work but the server is online. It was working fine last night.

Wow

@Bigevilpete calm your **** http://imgur.com/gallery/dheo6

Bigevilpeter

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Are you serious?! Another thread complaining about a maintenance schedule that you asked to be performed in the first place.

Are you serious??? u still defending them? u see this as normal?? you beleive i asked for 3 maintenances in less than a week??

Lol what a joke

jircris11

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Stop with the weekly maintenance please since they are useless, just save the maintenance for when there is actually a reason to do, like today. I actually wouldn't be surprised if yesterdays maintenance was the reason for the issues that happened and the need to do another one. Every time after the maintenance there are a ton of issues that weren't there before and nothing is fixed.

Please STAHP!!!!

rather multi maintenance in a row if they are fixing some of the bugs or the damned ping rate lol

Rhazmuz

As a console pleb I am going to stay away from one tamriel for at least 2 weeks after it hits console with all these issues being reported.

Maybe a month is better, given how slow they are to get followup patches out to console.

Nermy

I'm hoping it's to fix the log-in problems that the EU servers seem to be having.

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Elmour0Fudd

SantieClaws wrote: »

The changes were big, the hiccups to be expected.

Yes khajiit would also rather be in Tamriel than be a disembodied being only able to post on the forums but that is how these things they go yes.

Time will soon pass and we will be soon fishing, questing and daqncing again before we know it.

Besides - the NPCs they need to check and update the programming and make sure none of them have gone off script or anything - for all our sakes!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

LOL are we possibly looking a "Westworld Scenario" Auntie.... shouldn't we let the console fodder suffer too

MMMWWWWHHHAAAHHHAAHHaahhahahahah

damn did I do that outloud?

Nermy

Nermy wrote: »

I'm hoping it's to fix the log-in problems that the EU servers seem to be having.

Looks like it is...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3433961/#Comment_3433961

ElBiggus

OK, let's run through this one more time for the hard of thinking:

• Yes, ZOS need to fix bugs.
• Yes, in a game this big and complex, a new patch may introduce new bugs or resurrect old ones, so after a big change you can expect a lot of smaller patches in the days immediately after it.
• No, the servers do not need to be taken offline to do it, and saying "it has to happen" just makes them think that it's fine and we're all happy with it and gives them no motivation to stop doing it.

Any of you who defend them would, I'm pretty sure, be happier if it didn't happen, so once again I will explain the process that every server admin on the planet knows how to do:

• Test your update as much as possible on a test server.
• Push the update to a deployment server. This can be done without touching the live server -- that can be left running and people can still use it.
• When the update is ready and the deployment server is up and running, switch the deployment and live server roles: new players logging in will be directed to the new server, and users on the old pre-update server can be sent a message saying maintenance has been done and they need to log out and back in again as soon as possible. (Note: it may even be possible to do this "invisibly" by pushing people from one server to another whenever they switch zones, but a forced relog is easier.)
• When the old server is empty it's then ready to be the deployment server for the next set of updates.

Voila, servers updated, no downtime, and the biggest inconvenience is some people have to log out and back in again. There's also the extra bonus that if something's gone really wrong with the update they have the previous version ready to reinstate immediately.

This happens all around the world thousands of times a day, but you never notice because the process is designed to be seamless and invisible. It's also not new or radical: I learned how to do it in college three decades ago and it was old news by then, and I've seen it in practice in businesses from "small, the servers are only a small part of the business" to "freakin' huge, and can't function without them". An MMO is a computer program and not magic, so there's no technical reason they cannot do it this way; the only reason I can come up with that they don't do it this way is because it requires having some duplicate hardware and therefore costs money.

ZOS' entire business is based on having functional servers, so it strikes me as ludicrous that they don't do everything they can to make sure that the servers are (barring complete disaster) always running.

(On a final note, those of you who are fine with it need to stop telling the rest of us to put up or shut up; this is a genuine grievance, and this is the best place to air it. Don't want to hear about how annoyed we are? Skip these threads, then, rather than coming in and telling us we're whiny entitled idiots.)

ku5h

This is really beyond ***. I can accept 1 day in a week i wont be playing because of maintenence, but this is just ridiculous. You really like to *** over EU players, dont you ZoS. 2 days in a row you put maintenance in a middle of a fricking day.

tat2mano

RIDICULOUS!!

Thats what these maintenance are.
They dont fix stuff like some people say or want to believe.
And why dont they do this at noon at PDT time ??
Because then it will effect the great Murikans....
No they do it in EU time and go to sleep so when things go wrong we are f****d.

Qyrk

Many people in europe are working at this time....so fine in that case. Feel sorry for us oceanic where maintenance always hit OUR prime time.

All good though, I'll spend a few more time out here laughing at the type of topics that comes up during maintenance lol.