BiS Gear Sets for 1T [Community Project]

IrishRoyalty1124

What's best in slot for a redguard stam sorc? Has it changed with one tamriel?

Izaki

@dpencil Okay, I don't know if this is a necro or not, but I thought I'd mention something on stamina builds in trials.

Twice-born Star is only BiS if you have enough stamina builds in the group. Basically you'd need someone to run Sunderflame and Night Mother's Gaze for TBS to actually perform at its max potential. Same thing goes for Leviathan, which has an extra requirement: a very high and organized Aggressive Horn uptime.

Nowadays, in 1T we don't have THAT many stamina builds running in trials, because they lack AoE DPS and survivability when compared to magicka DPS. Most of the time in our group, or other groups on the Xbox EU leaderboards, we/they have at most 2 stamina DPS. I'm sure that this is the case for all other platforms too, I've seen some recent videos where you don't count more than 1 or 2 stamina DPS in the group. So neither Twice-born Star, nor Leviathan are optimal in these situations, because you don't achieve 100% penetration (not even close actually).

What this means is that the best stamina DPS 5 piece set, is in fact Two-Fanged Serpent. The 5k penetration is huge and basically negates the need for support stamina DPS sets. You also don't need to run Kra'gh for the penetration and you can use a better set (Stormfist, Velidreth). Kra'gh is really only used for the penetration, as the 2-piece bonus isn't that great in terms of AoE DPS, which is what stamina builds are lacking. Most boss fights in the game are AoE, so both Stormfist and Velidreth are instantly more effective than Kra'gh (aside from stamina sorcerer, but more on that later). Even if you chose to run Kra'gh, you can use one precise weapon, rather than 2 sharpened ones.

Physical penetration = 100 (Base) + 5k (Two-Fanged) + 5160 (Sharpened) + 5280 (Major Fracture) = 15540
Alkosh = 3010
Crusher = 1622
Minor Fracture = 1320

With 1 Alkosh buff alone you will be fully penetrating a boss. Basically, nothing else is to be said, this set is hands down the best if you don't have at least 3 stamina builds in a trial (1 for NMG, 1 for Sunderflame and 1 with TBS). Maybe 1 sharp and 1 precise is better in every case, still to be tested I guess. Without the support buffs, its impossible to achieve 100% penetration at any moment while wearing TBS.
With all the DoTs running, the full 5 piece bonus will be always active and you will have little to 0 downtime on the buff.

So when you have only 1 or 2 stamina DPS in your group, which is highly common, the BiS set ups are as follows:

5 Two-Fanged, 2 Stormfist/Kra'gh/Velidreth, 3 Vicious Ophidian/Roar of Alkosh, Maelstrom dual wield and bow
OR
5 Two-Fanged, 5 Vicious Ophidian/Roar of Alkosh, Maelstrom dual wield and bow

Now for DKs and NBs, the 2 piece boni from Stormfist or Velidreth are stronger than Kra'gh.
For sorcerers however, contrary to popular belief, Kra'gh outperforms Stormfist in a pure single target situation. Why? Because of the Implosion passive: Kra'gh has more hits per second than Stormfist, so it has a higher chance to proc the passive. Nonetheless, Stormfist also benefits from other sorcerer passives and provides higher AoE damage than Kra'gh, and also due to the penetration buff from Kra'gh not being a necessity due to running Two-Fanged, above 15% boss health, Stormfist outperforms. I personally use Stormfist on all 3 of my stamina classes (NB, DK and SO), because it just looks so cool and is the sweet spot between single target and AoE damage .

So neither TBS, nor Leviathan are BiS in One Tamriel, because of the lack of stamina builds in trials. Two-Fanged serpent outperforms both (by quite a lot too). I just thought I'd throw this out here, for all those who want to play stamina builds in serious trial groups.

Savos_Saren

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Izaki

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

Destruent

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

You don't need 2x eben in your raid. You can also run tava/ebon for offtank and tava/alkosh for maintank in some raids. There are also some more worthwhile sets, but tava is still a good option.

Izaki

Destruent wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

You don't need 2x eben in your raid. You can also run tava/ebon for offtank and tava/alkosh for maintank in some raids. There are also some more worthwhile sets, but tava is still a good option.

Off-tank shouldn't be running Tava's or Ebon. He should be running Powerful Assault and Alkosh. You need at least 2 people running Alkosh in a trials group. The off-tank isn't taking enough damage to make decent use of Tava's. Powerful Assault and Sentinel of Rkugamz on the other hand are amazing support sets that both have much more benefit on an off tank than Tava's.

Tava's is still a good cheap option, but its nowhere near being BiS.

Savos_Saren

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

You don't need 2x eben in your raid. You can also run tava/ebon for offtank and tava/alkosh for maintank in some raids. There are also some more worthwhile sets, but tava is still a good option.

Off-tank shouldn't be running Tava's or Ebon. He should be running Powerful Assault and Alkosh. You need at least 2 people running Alkosh in a trials group. The off-tank isn't taking enough damage to make decent use of Tava's. Powerful Assault and Sentinel of Rkugamz on the other hand are amazing support sets that both have much more benefit on an off tank than Tava's.

Tava's is still a good cheap option, but its nowhere near being BiS.

Both of you missed my point. It seems like no matter what race or class a tank is- they're still running a select three set pieces. There's no diversity in tanking. When it comes to DDs, however, your gear is wildly different from a stamina or magicka based character. You gear also varies on what class you choose and race is also a factor. You ask what's BiS for DDs and people will ask "What's your class? What's your race? What's your attributes?" No one asks that about tanks. They just spout out "Ebon, Alkosh, Bloodspawn"

Destruent

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

You don't need 2x eben in your raid. You can also run tava/ebon for offtank and tava/alkosh for maintank in some raids. There are also some more worthwhile sets, but tava is still a good option.

Off-tank shouldn't be running Tava's or Ebon. He should be running Powerful Assault and Alkosh. You need at least 2 people running Alkosh in a trials group. The off-tank isn't taking enough damage to make decent use of Tava's. Powerful Assault and Sentinel of Rkugamz on the other hand are amazing support sets that both have much more benefit on an off tank than Tava's.

Tava's is still a good cheap option, but its nowhere near being BiS.

It all depends on the raid you are running. You cannot use the same setup for tank and offtank everywhere. It will also depend on your group and maybe even your strategy and experience of the raidmembers...

jaburns wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

Here- I'll go ahead and fill in all the PVE tank BiS gear for NBs, Sorcs, Templars, and DKs:

Tava, Ebon/Alkosh, Bloodspawn

Yay! Diversity!!!!

Tava's hasn't been BiS for a while now.... Its all about Ebon, Alkosh and Bloodspawn

You don't need 2x eben in your raid. You can also run tava/ebon for offtank and tava/alkosh for maintank in some raids. There are also some more worthwhile sets, but tava is still a good option.

Off-tank shouldn't be running Tava's or Ebon. He should be running Powerful Assault and Alkosh. You need at least 2 people running Alkosh in a trials group. The off-tank isn't taking enough damage to make decent use of Tava's. Powerful Assault and Sentinel of Rkugamz on the other hand are amazing support sets that both have much more benefit on an off tank than Tava's.

Tava's is still a good cheap option, but its nowhere near being BiS.

Both of you missed my point. It seems like no matter what race or class a tank is- they're still running a select three set pieces. There's no diversity in tanking. When it comes to DDs, however, your gear is wildly different from a stamina or magicka based character. You gear also varies on what class you choose and race is also a factor. You ask what's BiS for DDs and people will ask "What's your class? What's your race? What's your attributes?" No one asks that about tanks. They just spout out "Ebon, Alkosh, Bloodspawn"

Not really...
Magicka: bsw + moondancer/aether + grothdar/ilambris/skoria + maelstrome-destro
stam: tbs+ VO/alkosh+ kragh+ maelstromeweapons for max-dps
nearly all other setups are more support-based. theres is not that much diversity when it comes to max dps.

Asardes

The problem with setups that are all-dropped gear is that you rely on pure luck. For weapons the chance of actually getting one with the right trait and type is about 1/600 since the probability is shared with shields and jewelry. So as DD this is pretty bad.

For thank the weapon type doesn't actually matter, but the trait does. Even if you want any 1h defending or infused weapon the chance is still pretty small, around 1/80. The chance of getting a shield, in any trait is about the same. You'll need a huge number of farming sessions in the specific dungeon or trial - in case of overland content trading is also an option, but BiS pieces cost a lot if you can find them.

By the time you eventually get your hands on that supposedly BiS gear piece - you may actually never get it - the meta would have actually changed, because the skill calculation was changed, there is a new BiS set, or even new content that can be tackled best using totally different gear. And the time spent farming would be actually wasted for nothing.

So I've decided to always use a 5 piece crafted sets in all my builds by default, and only use dropped gear exclusively if I already have it in storage, without trying to farm it obsessively. Running the same content over and over again in a short period, always hoping to get the specific item really ruins my pleasure to play.

I've recently started doing vet trials on my main Nord stamina DK as tank.

The trait combo that I've found works best for me is infused on big pieces, divines on small ones, and tri-glyphs on everything, defending on weapon, crusher enchantment, block cost reduction jewelry enchants, with atronach mundus. Because I want to be able to use ingenous shield to give me and those around me more resistance and recoup a bit of stamina in a pinch without dropping block to do a heavy attack.

The gear I've been running has proven pretty good in 4 man content, but only passable in veteran trials, since Ebon is not part of it. As long as the off tank was running that, I stayed with my usual setup, but running as single tank implies that I must run Ebon. I've farmed most armor pieces with the required trait and only need either an infused chest or divines feet to start crafting around it.

Currently I'm running 2 x Bloodspawn (heavy, infused head, divines shoulders, tri-glyphs) + 3 x Endurance jewelry (robust, block cost reduction) + 2 x Alessia's Bulwark (defending swords, crusher enchantments, infused shields tri-glyphs) + 5 x Willow's Path (heavy infused chest & legs, divines feet, medium hands and light waist). This setup gives me around 26.6K health, 32.5K stamina and 13.6K magicka, with 1.2K magicka/stamina regeneration. Resistance is 31K both for physical and magic.

As single tank I will always run 5 x Ebon Armory (jewelry, infused legs and either infused chest or divines feet). I have 2 options for crafted sets and another 2 for monster sets.

One crafted set would be Hist Bark - that will keep my physical resistance where it is now, but my regeneration would be far lower. It would save some stamina from the missed hits, but lower the proc on Bloodspawn somewhat.

Another crafted set would be Tava's Blessing - I will lose around 1.9K physical resistance and around 150 regeneration from the final Willow's Bonus, and I will also need to run shuffle to proc it. Missed shots also lower the proc on Bloodspawn but probably the procs from the 5th piece bonus would actually lead to a net ultimate gain.

In both cases the stamina pool will be about 2.5K lower from the Ebon jewely being healthy, and not robust, like my Endurance. I don't think this is such a big deal. My health will be around 33K, which seems right.

The two monster sets I want to use are Bloodspawn - which I'm currently using - and Lord Warden, which I already have but never used until now. There is also the possibility of using mismatched parts from Chockethorn and Shadowrend for ~260 magicka regeneration but I don't find this particularly attractive because it lacks group utility.

So what should I craft first? In which fights will those sets be put to better use?

Later edit: My old Willow's Path set is not going away. I will still use it for tanking dungeons on my DK and also my sorcerer, where works really nice in combination with 5 x Amber Plasm and 2 x Infernal Guardian for perma-shielding and constant flame bombs, but that's another discussion.

Gomumon

Is there really no consensus on BiS for PVE Templar Healer? My wife hates DPSing and so we're looking for something to farm for her healer.

Mojmir

Gomumon wrote: »

Is there really no consensus on BiS for PVE Templar Healer? My wife hates DPSing and so we're looking for something to farm for her healer.

Spell power cure/worms raiment seem to be great sets

Croblasta

For a MagSorc If I went lightning staff front bar and dual wield back bar, any suggestions for an alternative monster set since I would no longer proc the flame in Llambris?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Croblasta wrote: »

For a MagSorc If I went lightning staff front bar and dual wield back bar, any suggestions for an alternative monster set since I would no longer proc the flame in Llambris?

Nerienith or skoria.

Jeckll

Croblasta wrote: »

For a MagSorc If I went lightning staff front bar and dual wield back bar, any suggestions for an alternative monster set since I would no longer proc the flame in Llambris?

Molag Kena

RazielSR

So I always went with Overload build for my magsorc. Now I'm gonna go BSP and Moondancer. I just need 1 moondancer or 1 BSW staff...but as it seems is gonna be almost imposible to get due to the fantastic RNG, should I lose ilambris set and go 1 kena and 1 torug + 2 destro torugs and lose Ilambris?

Bc_bmx

So with next patch (housing). magic dps will likely switch to a lightning staff aoe bar, gaining them the same debuff as infallible aether 5th piece. For trial healer, one healer running spc/worm, second healer spc/sanctuary. Thoughts?

g00gleyes

stam sorc pvp dps build link is to a dk build.

dpencil

@g00gleyes Fixed. Thanks

To all. I know the OP is going to be out of date for Homestead, so was gonna let this thread just go into the archives.

Bobby_V_Rockit

I use 5 spriggan, 3 vo, 2 veli and 2 TBS lol

Vizier

dumb question: What is BiS? Sorry just have no frame of reference for that term.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Best in Slot

davidcombs7

@alcast any new bis sets for magplars.... I've always been a fan of mothers sorrow but really going to try other things

dpencil

@davidcombs7 The standard best in slot armor set for all magicka classes is now Burning Spell Weave due to the loss of crit on monster and 5 piece set bonuses, and changes to crit damage multipliers making crit based builds less powerful. Sorcerers and Nightblades can make good use of Necropotence as well.

davidcombs7

I run 5 infal aether, 5 mothers sorrow, 2 grothdar. I'm up to 81.7% crit. I was also thingking of running 1 precise for trials to not overpenetrate and get even more crit but everyone says you don't need that much crit but I hit hard with almost every move critting maybe @asalyre

davidcombs7

@dpencil so getting sets that are spell damage are better now. I know everyone says bis is bsw, but I don't think that's so on a Templar. We get an extra 10% crit dmg so stacking crit is good imo, that with concussed enemies another 10%, 5 % minor slayer, and doing execute having to weave a fire destro blockade or reflective light seems like a Dps loss

dpencil

That's nice crit chance, but remember it's a balance between max magicka, spell damage, crit chance, and penetration all coming together to give you the best overall output.

davidcombs7

I'm on PS4 so we can't do the things pc people can do if if anyone can show Dps numbers for 5 mothers sorrow, 5 infal aether, 2 grothdar then 5 bsw, 5 infal aether, 2 grothdar to get which is better it would be greatly appreciated

Lynx7386

For the dk heavy attack magicka dps build:

2pc ilambris + 5pc undaunted infiltrator (jewelry + dw) + 5 pc infallible aether OR 5 pc elegance + maelstrom lightning staff

dpencil

@davidcombs7
One thing you could do would be to go onto the UESP Build Editor and put your build on there, then see how your Effective Spell Damage (ESD) changes when you switch out your sets. Make sure to divide the number you get from BSW to better reflect your normal uptime. So if you have really good uptime (66%) then you'd add the ESP with BSW proced onto itself along with the ESD when it's not proced and divide by 3 to get your average ESD.

Destruent

davidcombs7 wrote: »

@dpencil so getting sets that are spell damage are better now. I know everyone says bis is bsw, but I don't think that's so on a Templar. We get an extra 10% crit dmg so stacking crit is good imo, that with concussed enemies another 10%, 5 % minor slayer, and doing execute having to weave a fire destro blockade or reflective light seems like a Dps loss

Reflective/Vamps bane do more damage per cast than a crit of radiant destruction, they are definitely no DPS-loss. BSW is definitely BiS.
edit says, even shards do more average damage than a radiant crit.