IC Trophy Keys

UrQuan

Transairion wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

So, I have about 150 of each key - it converted the Bone Shards to some new key. I went into the Planer room, to use them first, and it converted everything to that? Everything was absolute crap.

Not impressed. I assume this is not working as intended? All my Dark Ethers, Bone Shards, Monsters tooths, the lot, wasted and crap agility stuff... I was forced to used everything in Planer Scraps chest room

@ZOS_GinaBruno What's up with that?

This isn't a bug, this is how the Trophy Rooms have always worked.

If you go inside a vault with 1000 fragments AS MANY AS POSSIBLE will get converted into keys for that vault: if you go into a Imperial City Vault with 600 fragments, you're getting 10 keys. Whether or not you wanted 10 of the same key is irrelevant, you brought them to the vault so the game assumes you want keys.

Under the old system, there were different fragments for different vaults which is why you couldn't accidently covert stuff (since if you took all your fragments, 3/4 would be invalid for that specific vault).

Update 12 changed it so ALL fragments work in ALL vaults, so when you brought your haul of 150 per key to a single vault they ALL got converted to that kind of key. Any fragments you bring to ANY vault from now on will covert until it runs out of stuff it can covert. If you only want X keys, you have to only bring X fragments.


No bug, you just missed the Patch Note where all keys work for all vaults and got a bunch of duplicate keys when you brought your entire stockpile to one vault. It's unfortunate, but now you know!

Huh, I had no idea that's how trophy rooms have always worked. I don't think I've ever gone to one with enough fragments to get more than 1 key.

I'm thankful for this thread, because otherwise I would have gone and had all of my various fragments converted into the same key.

P3ZZL3

Transairion wrote: »

<b>This isn't a bug, this is how the Trophy Rooms have always worked.</b>

If you go inside a vault with 1000 fragments AS MANY AS POSSIBLE will get converted into keys for that vault:

Update 12 changed it so ALL fragments work in ALL vaults

No bug, you just missed the Patch Note where all keys work for all vaults and got a bunch of duplicate keys when you brought your entire stockpile to one vault. It's unfortunate, but now you know!

That just doesn't make sense though. In one instance you say they all get converted to that, single vault. In your next statement, you say they all work in all vaults. You then state it's not a bug.

Logic would dictate, if you are going to merge all 6 of the individual Vault Keys, so that they all become one single type of key, that those keys would work in <b>ALL</b> Vaults. Not just the first one you go in to.

I do believe that's what was intended, however I also think that it was implemented incorrectly. My assumption is that they did the "change" to allow for convenience - but clearly it makes no difference to anything if you have to keep going back for more keys for the next vault. It actually makes it more of a pain in the ass than carrying 6 different types around with you *Shrugs*

Also, I still have various Tooth's, Planner scraps and other trophy keys sitting in my bank. I thought the point was all of them changed to the new type, which, clearly has not happened either.

Good idea, bad/poor implementation that's not working as intended imo.

Oh, and not salty - far more things to worry about in the world like when my morning bacon sandwich will arrive - just annoying the time invested gets me a stockpile of decon crap due to questionable implementation

Asardes

I've seen yesterday that VICP bosses drop the generic key shards instead of the old daedric shackles. The icon looks just like the daedric embers which used to drop in VWGT - I suppose that the latter was the prototype for the keys, the coders just changed the name and the loot table so that all enemies now drop that item, with changed name. Has anyone tested IC proper (sewers, districts) to see what drops from mobs now? The same old items, or the new key shards? If the latter holds true, I will simply use the legacy items ASAP to save up to 7 slots in the bank.

I haven't been able to get my hands on Scathing Mage jewelry in VICP yesterday. However, just before we went in dungeon a group member linked Spell Power Cure jewelry in chat. I will check today VWGT to see if I get any of those drop from Kena. We noticed something odd at the end of VICP though. Although we did the dungeon on veteran mode, activating the scroll at the end, the head dropped in blue quality, impenetrable trait, though it should have been purple quality. Maybe when they reintroduced impenetrable for this item they dragged down a column in the table? It was for sure veteran hard mode because we got 2 keys from Urgarlag when we turned in the pledge.

Transairion

That just doesn't make sense though. In one instance you say they all get converted to that, single vault. In your next statement, you say they all work in all vaults. You then state it's not a bug.

Logic would dictate, if you are going to merge all 6 of the individual Vault Keys, so that they all become one single type of key, that those keys would work in <b>ALL</b> Vaults. Not just the first one you go in to.

Fragments are now universally accepted in all vaults: the Keys that said Fragments create only work in that specific vault. The change was only to make you able to mix and match Fragment types, not use different Keys in different Vaults. It would've been really convenient to do both...

You can only use an ICP key in the ICP Vault, though you can use 50 Banners, Teeth and Embers to create that key (in the past, you could ONLY use 150 of the Shackles? to create an ICP key). It's confusing I know, and all the change does is let you mix and match currency to create keys... it'll still try and covert to the maximum amount of keys possible if you bring a hoard to a single Vault.


To be fair, the only reason I knew it worked this way pre-Update 12 was because I only got Imperial City in the last few months and saw it firsthand when I used like 500 of each Fragment type and got multiple keys. The difference was back then, each Vault only made a key from certain fragments... now any fragment will to convert to any kind. Previously you could carry the entire hoard around to each Vault, now you can't carry the hoard or the first vault will take everything it can.

Apologies for my previous post coming off as condescending as well, it looks really snarky when I re-read it =X

P3ZZL3

@Transairion *laughing* No worries, and it did a little.

If it was clear in the natch potes, and said something like "All keys you have on you, will be converted to THAT VAULT that you are in" Then I would have no issue. It would be me being a dumb ass (and yes, it's happened )

But it doesn't. That's really the issue I have. So I've lost everything to get a pile of crap. I just can not see how it's been implemented "makes sense". Converting everything to a certain type of key, and then using "X" number of those keys in whatever chest you want, would make much more sense and cause no issues

Savos_Saren

So, as it stands:

We should only bring enough fragments (of any kind) to make ONE KEY at a time- just to be on the safe side?

I have 600 Daedric Embers. I should only walk over to the WGT with 150 Daedric Embers to make one key...

...and that chest will give me normal WGT armor pieces. NOT jewelry. NOT weapons. Just armor.


Have I got this correct?

RazielSR

OMFG I disnt see this..now all my trophies were converted into monstruous keys....

WHAT IS THIS?????There wont be fix for this??

KingMagaw

I havent been near a vaukt until this was tested and am thankful ))


I have uncovered keys in my mules, i still have monstor tooths and mark of the legions and also a mix of key fragments. My understanding was that all oof thesde would now be turned into key fragments but that hasnt happened yet so i was very dubious to go near.


Do the ICP and WGT chests have a chance of dropping jewelry or weapons or simply just armors?

Cheers

Asardes

Chests as well as intermediate dungeon bosses never drop anything but armor pieces from what I've seen. Only the end boss drops a weapon, shield or jewelry alongside the monster head (if the dungeon is veteran). Never ran any normal modes so I don't know how the drop rate and quality is affected. I had a Necklace of the Imperium and a Spell Power Cure shield drop from Kena 2 days ago, and one of the other players had a a necklace from that set. Sometimes the piece has unique name, though it's actually part of a set, so don't discount any drops until you actually check the tooltip to see what set it is.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Keys should work for any vault, just like tokens.

mrs_gibbs

All mine did the same thing!! I had several hundred different types of trophies. I decided to go open a couple chests in the agility vault first, but the second I walked into the room every single fragment/scrap I had turned into agility ONLY keys. And I had to waste all the trophies I have been saving for over a year. I only needed one Agility piece, and I was hoping to use all of my trophies for SPC.

I wish I had seen this before I used my keys.

mrs_gibbs

Also, my trophies did NOT convert to key fragments like they were supposed to. They were all stacked individually in my inventory, until I entered the agility vault and they turned into agility keys. Any new trophies I picked up were key fragments as intended.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

sickboy2808

I still got different Trophys, Mark of Legion and other ones(cant remember names) i thought that they were all going to be called the same so therefore would all stack together as one kind?? What am i supposed to do with these different trophies?? Please ZOS let me know as im confused ha

P3ZZL3

SAme here. And STILL no response on this from @ZOS_GinaBruno

Gina - Please - can you sort this out? I've sent you 2 very polite messages over the last week for help on this, and no response?