How much would you pay for crown gems?

Danikat

One of my favourite suggestions to fix a lot of issues with crown crates is to sell the gems directly. That would enable those who don't want to gamble to buy the rewards they want for a fixed price, and those who want to take their chances can buy the crates. Either way ZOS gets money.

Using the clouded senche-leopard as a basis, just because I can remember it originally cost 2,500 crowns and will cost 100 crown gems, I'd say 25 crowns per gem would be fair. That means the 'legendary' tier rewards would all cost 2,500 crowns, the 'epic' reward would be 1,000 crowns and the 'superior' reward would be 325 crowns. Admittedly it does mean the apex rewards would be 10,000 crowns or $72.73 / £43.64 but they are supposed to be the super-special, crate exclusive items.

But what do you think? Would you be interested in the ability to buy crown crate items directly, and if so how much would you pay for them?

cjthibs

...or just cut out the additional loss of value and sell things for Crowns, just like always.

Dracane

Rykmaar

0

Exploiting people with gambling addictions or chasing whales is distasteful imo.

Mojmir

lol even better,just remove the system.

Birdovic

Woah stop right there!

You're giving them scary ideas...

Nestor

Danikat

So for the people saying 0 can you clarify that?

Are you saying that because you don't want the items in the crates at all? Or because you want to buy them for crowns, not buy the crown gems first? Or do you not want to pay real money for them?

Or is it something else I've missed?

Rykmaar wrote: »

0

Exploiting people with gambling addictions or chasing whales is distasteful imo.

Well this would eliminate the gambling aspect. There wouldn't be any randomness to it - you buy crown gems and use them to purchase your item/s, just like the current system with crowns. (In fact that's why I suggested this, I don't mind buying stuff in games if I think it's worthwhile and a reasonable price, but I won't spend money without knowing what I'm getting in return.)

I don't think I can really comment on the whales aspect though. That's always seemed like a pretty arbitrary term to me. How expensive does an item have to be for it to be aimed exclusively at 'whales'? Does it vary between games? Is it more to do with the amount of items rather than their individual price? I understand the concept but in most cases I don't think you can point at different items being sold and say "this is a fair price for the majority of players but this one is taking advantage of those who can and will spend more".

But still, at least it would give us the option. Then we could decide if it's too expensive or not, instead of being asked to spend an unknown amount of money in the hope that we will eventually end up with the thing we want.

wayfarerx

Danikat wrote: »

Well this would eliminate the gambling aspect. There wouldn't be any randomness to it - you buy crown gems and use them to purchase your item/s, just like the current system with crowns.

And that is why this will never happen, crown crates are exploitive by design. ZOS has no intention of making these things available at a known price.

CasNation

0

Not buying anything related to the crown crates. I would rather they just sell the crazy mounts for a crap ton of money directly without the RNG crap.

Riga_Mortis

Nothing, thats what I use my crowns for to buy things I want from the crownstore.

Nestor

Danikat wrote: »

So for the people saying 0 can you clarify that?

Are you saying that because you don't want the items in the crates at all? Or because you want to buy them for crowns, not buy the crown gems first? Or do you not want to pay real money for them?

Based on what I have seen from the Crown Crates, there is nothing in there I want anyway. So, for that, 0. I don't want to buy any Gems to fill in what I get back from duplicate items doing this process, as I won't buy the Crown Crates in the first place. Finally, I don't want to incentivize this particular path that ZOS is taking in any way shape or form.

They want to sell more stuff in the Crown Store, list the items and the price in Crowns and let people buy what they want knowing full well what they are going to get before they buy it.

Danikat

CasNation wrote: »

0

Not buying anything related to the crown crates. I would rather they just sell the crazy mounts for a crap ton of money directly without the RNG crap.

That is exactly what I'm suggesting. Maybe I didn't make that clear, I suppose if you're not familiar with the crown crates my post may not make much sense.

It would be simpler to just sell the items in the crown store directly, but I don't think ZOS will do that, which is why I'm trying to think of alternatives.

SilentRaven1972

Won't spend a penny. Not on crates, not on crate gems. If there is something for sale that I want, I will buy. If there is a "chance" at something I want, I will do without. I'm watching close how things go...Skyrim is calling louder and louder.

psychotic13

What would be the point? We already use crowns as the currency for buying things, this is so they can squeeze money out of people's need to want something that looks cool.

redspecter23

I might pay up to 10 crowns per gem, putting the mount at 4000 crowns. It's extremely cool and I'd love to have one, but I just have no interest in the gambling system they have now. 30,000+ crowns to guarantee an apex mount through gem exchange is ludicrous.

JimT722

SilentRaven1972 wrote: »

Won't spend a penny. Not on crates, not on crate gems. If there is something for sale that I want, I will buy. If there is a "chance" at something I want, I will do without. I'm watching close how things go...Skyrim is calling louder and louder.

Agree. I actually haven't played eso since these hit the pts as they were actually much worse then I thought they would be. Found your comment amusing because I have been playing Skyrim again while I wait to see how these turn out. Since they are being silent to most feedback and the little they give suggests slight changes, I'm not very optimistic.

silvereyes

It's wishful thinking to believe those limited mounts/pets will ever be available at their original prices again. The mind-shriven horse was originally < 3000 crowns too, and when it was re-released for the IC event, it was 5.5k.

What's more, is that ZOS isn't going to undermine the crates by selling directly. The entire point of the crates, from a marketing perspective, is to raise prices.

If you look at the drop rates on PTS, you'll see that to attain one of those legendary rewards, if you don't get lucky enough for a drop, costs around 9k crowns-worth of crates before you have enough gems. An apex mount is closer to 36k crowns.

Obviously, if ZOS just put those prices on the crown store, they wouldn't sell. The crates are a deliberate attempt to bypass sticker shock and make the sale anyways.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

psychotic13 wrote: »

What would be the point? We already use crowns as the currency for buying things

Pretty much this. If they make Gems purchasable directly, then there's no real difference between Gems and Crowns except the mounts/costumes/etc. available for purchase with them and the fact that long time subscribers won't have huge stockpiles of Gems, and thus would need to buy some if they wanted a Gem-purchased cosmetic. Functionally they would be the same.

And I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been saving up my subscription Crowns precisely because I planned on using them on something I wanted later down the line. Having Zeni tell me 'nope, you have to switch them to this other currency first' would be an annoyance.

Just sell the goods for Crowns in the first place and save everyone that step.

Vals_Fan

cjthibs wrote: »

...or just cut out the additional loss of value and sell things for Crowns, just like always.

This.

SilentRaven1972

JimT722 wrote: »

SilentRaven1972 wrote: »

Won't spend a penny. Not on crates, not on crate gems. If there is something for sale that I want, I will buy. If there is a "chance" at something I want, I will do without. I'm watching close how things go...Skyrim is calling louder and louder.

Agree. I actually haven't played eso since these hit the pts as they were actually much worse then I thought they would be. Found your comment amusing because I have been playing Skyrim again while I wait to see how these turn out. Since they are being silent to most feedback and the little they give suggests slight changes, I'm not very optimistic.

I've been hearing the call to play Skyrim again, and it's very strong. The main reason I've stuck around is I bought the game for a friend, but he burns through the content real fast. Plus he commented a game is due to be released soon that he wants, so I have the feeling that will pull him away. I hate running alone (even after buying the game for several friends, they don't play), so I'll end up back in Skyrim. No gamble boxes there!

Mojmir

I won't buy them,but they can gladly give gems out to sub's,500/month.

DerpyShadowz

I'd give my left nut for a couple

Birdovic

I Highlander l wrote: »

I'd give my left nut for a couple

thats the Derp I know.

TheHsN

5

ragespell

redspecter23 wrote: »

I might pay up to 10 crowns per gem, putting the mount at 4000 crowns. It's extremely cool and I'd love to have one, but I just have no interest in the gambling system they have now. 30,000+ crowns to guarantee an apex mount through gem exchange is ludicrous.

Of course it can't be. Gambling boxes have anly one reason to exist: hiding the real cost of things.
What ZOS want is that people spend their whole income 400 crowns at a time, for an unicorn

LrdRahvin

I ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY draw the line at 3 and a half trillion.

SlayerTheDragon

-1 crowns

Tyrion87

Real money ---> Crowns ---> Crown Gems ---> Crown Store Item.

And maybe let's add Crown Jewels to be bought with Crown Gems and used for the purchase of the Crown Store items.

But what for?

Lol... no. Just no.

Jar_Ek

0.
I will never buy a crate or crate gem - gambling boxes are essentially a cancer that are introduced to try to catch whales. They are morally and pyschologically bankrupt.
PS I don't like them in case you missed it.

OldManJim

Jar_Ek wrote: »

0.
I will never buy a crate or crate gem - gambling boxes are essentially a cancer that are introduced to try to catch whales. They are morally and pyschologically bankrupt.
PS I don't like them in case you missed it.

I agree completely!