Ballista Morph

Strider_Roshin

Do I think it was needed? Yes

However the cost really doesn't justify the effect anymore. I think the change should stay, but the cost needs to be reduced in order to compensate.

susmitds

At this point, Soul Assault deals more damage even on a stamina user and it has hardly any counters.

RoyJade

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

Strider_Roshin

susmitds wrote: »

At this point, Soul Assault deals more damage even on a stamina user and it has hardly any counters.

And it costs almost half the amount. The bow ultimate isn't worth using anymore IMO.

Strider_Roshin

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

psychotic13

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

Please elaborate

Strider_Roshin

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

Please elaborate

Sure, a common example: cast meteor, use rune cage, guaranteed hit. Tada!

RoyJade

Meteor is one of the few delayed ultimates who can do that, and it put far less offensive pressure than ballista.
And rune cage won't be broken by ballista


I still plan to use ballista on pve, probably on pvp. It still does 50% more single target dps than DBOS (cost included) with nearly no cast time, something soul assault would never be able to do.

psychotic13

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

Please elaborate

Sure, a common example: cast meteor, use rune cage, guaranteed hit. Tada!

But meteor isn't a channeled attack, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Strider_Roshin

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

Please elaborate

Sure, a common example: cast meteor, use rune cage, guaranteed hit. Tada!

But meteor isn't a channeled attack, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Oh so when you asked me to elaborate what I meant by "every other ultimate"; what you really meant was elaborate about Soul Assault. Don't expect me to read your mind, use your words.

Using Rune Cage then Soul Assault works quite well as well. If your opponent doesn't have the stamina they'll eat the entire Ultimate. If they do have the stamina they'll still take about half the damage at least before they can block it, and after the effect is over they're stamina has take one heck of a beating, and will be vulnerable to roots, and snares.

Lexxypwns

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

But soul assault can be blocked, with ballista you can still attack and cc (fear, especially).

And? You can do the same with every other ultimate.

Please elaborate

Sure, a common example: cast meteor, use rune cage, guaranteed hit. Tada!

But meteor isn't a channeled attack, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Oh so when you asked me to elaborate what I meant by "every other ultimate"; what you really meant was elaborate about Soul Assault. Don't expect me to read your mind, use your words.

Using Rune Cage then Soul Assault works quite well as well. If your opponent doesn't have the stamina they'll eat the entire Ultimate. If they do have the stamina they'll still take about half the damage at least before they can block it, and after the effect is over they're stamina has take one heck of a beating, and will be vulnerable to roots, and snares.

yeah, or you could rune cage + overload+frag proc for more damage

RoyJade

Lexxypwns wrote: »

yeah, or you could rune cage + overload+frag proc for more damage

And take back some (of not all) of your attack because of defensive stance/wings.

Dracane

Then please reduce the cost of elemental storm already it is still the worst ult.

Snape2255

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Using Rune Cage then Soul Assault works quite well as well. If your opponent doesn't have the stamina they'll eat the entire Ultimate. If they do have the stamina they'll still take about half the damage at least before they can block it, and after the effect is over they're stamina has take one heck of a beating, and will be vulnerable to roots, and snares.

Then you'll notice they're a Stam Sorc, they'll pop a few Dark Deal's, waltz over to you, slam a Dawnbreaker in your face and collect the AP.

The Ballista morph is going to be awesome due to the fact it does insane damage WHILST you can carry on attacking. It attacks for you! FOR YOU! Filth. Pure filth.

It states that it still does relatively the same damage output, just over a longer period. If you're applying enough pressure to them and pop it down then the extra 1.1 second won't change much. It will still be another addition to your bounty quest after those 5 or so seconds are over.

I don't know about you guys, but I can dish out a hell of a lot of damage in a 5 second period. Enough to kill a player off without that ult, let alone with. Shouldn't be an issue, still applies insane pressure.

Strider_Roshin

Snape2255 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Using Rune Cage then Soul Assault works quite well as well. If your opponent doesn't have the stamina they'll eat the entire Ultimate. If they do have the stamina they'll still take about half the damage at least before they can block it, and after the effect is over they're stamina has take one heck of a beating, and will be vulnerable to roots, and snares.

Then you'll notice they're a Stam Sorc, they'll pop a few Dark Deal's, waltz over to you, slam a Dawnbreaker in your face and collect the AP.

The Ballista morph is going to be awesome due to the fact it does insane damage WHILST you can carry on attacking. It attacks for you! FOR YOU! Filth. Pure filth.

It states that it still does relatively the same damage output, just over a longer period. If you're applying enough pressure to them and pop it down then the extra 1.1 second won't change much. It will still be another addition to your bounty quest after those 5 or so seconds are over.

I don't know about you guys, but I can dish out a hell of a lot of damage in a 5 second period. Enough to kill a player off without that ult, let alone with. Shouldn't be an issue, still applies insane pressure.

The overall damage was reduced by 5%, and it now takes an additional 1.1 seconds. I want my 5% back.

Snape2255

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

The overall damage was reduced by 5%, and it now takes an additional 1.1 seconds. I want my 5% back.

Oh no! That extra 1,000 damage in PVP. Whatever will you do