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Maelstrom Woes

Browiseth
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It's really bad that I'm consistently cheated out of my flawless runs due solely to lag

Share your VMA depression stories!
skingrad when zoscharacters:
  • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
  • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
  • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
  • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
  • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
  • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
  • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
  • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
  • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
  • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe
  • Qbiken
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    Maelstrom arena have in my opinion 3 difficulties:
    * Normal Maelstrom arena
    * Veteran Maelstrom arena
    * Lagstrom arena, where you die more to high ping and lagspikes than the actuall mechanics XD
  • MrTarkanian48
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    My personal favorite is last boss round 7 when the Argonian Minder decides to put up its shield right on top of one of the poison spawns. Just bad luck.
    Wood Elf Stam NB (PVP)
    Redguard Stam Sorc (PVP)
    Altmer NB (DPS)
    Imperial DK (Tank)
    Redguard DK (DPS)
    Altmer Templar (Healer)

    EP - PS4
  • Soleya
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    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.
    Edited by Soleya on September 13, 2016 11:17PM
  • Soleya
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    Deleted duplicate post
    Edited by Soleya on September 13, 2016 11:17PM
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    I can get to stage 8 with no deaths, and I can do stage 8 and 9 back to back with no deaths (from a saved run), but I can't seem to complete the whole thing with less than 6 deaths :/ Much of that is my irl stamina; I lose focus at around stage 8. And dying for the first time that late in the run is so infuriating it condemns you to die some more. But most runs I will die early on to some bs that the game throws at you. Your best chance of a flawless run is early in the morning or late at night, when server traffic is at its lowest. I kind of wish you could run it more than once per day, for time not loot. They could disable loot drops for subsequent runs. Only having one chance a day at a good time adds to the pressure.
    PC | EU
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    My only woe is that I'm yet to recieve a Sharpened 2h.

    Yes I've had infinite crashes, lag outs, enemies animation cancelling, mini boss on round 8 hitting like a truck on a no death run, poison plants spawning in the bubble.

    And worst of all the Ice round, I hate that round with a passion.
    The boss who CCs you 24/7 because apparently CC immunity doesn't work for us in PVE from NPC enemies. Waves 3 and 4 can be annoying. The troll is a genuine troll.

    I recently got flawless Conqueror on a Mag DK.. So whole run is smooth, get the final boss to 10% health whilst he's down from the gold ghosts. My gameplay stops/freezes for like 5 seconds - when you can move but everything around you is stood still, I'm like NOOO

    Then as the delayed/lag subsides everything fast forwards with me being a 1 shot and the boss up again with a crem guard... I have Magna armour saved incase of a situation like this and I did it. I was ready to go on a killing spree and then big relief :)
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • Mush55
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    Got so close to completing stage 5 got the boss to the last 5% (been stuck on this round forever ) pressed vigor nothing hapend pressed it 3 more time with no sign of it working then I died .

    So I ress a guess what without pressing a button vigor fires off so very disheartening, to die for your own mistake is ok but to lag or bugs not so good.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    It's really bad that I'm consistently cheated out of my flawless runs due solely to lag

    Share your VMA depression stories!

    I know man. Was flying through it the other day, stage 7, 0 deaths, then bam, skills locked out when the 3 archers spawn. I tried attacking them, hoping for a fengrush macro slice, but Nah, *** jipped again by zos.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    I can get to stage 8 with no deaths, and I can do stage 8 and 9 back to back with no deaths (from a saved run), but I can't seem to complete the whole thing with less than 6 deaths :/ Much of that is my irl stamina; I lose focus at around stage 8. And dying for the first time that late in the run is so infuriating it condemns you to die some more. But most runs I will die early on to some bs that the game throws at you. Your best chance of a flawless run is early in the morning or late at night, when server traffic is at its lowest. I kind of wish you could run it more than once per day, for time not loot. They could disable loot drops for subsequent runs. Only having one chance a day at a good time adds to the pressure.

    I just found out from a kind mod on fengrush's stream that you can actually run it as many times as you like on the same character, just don't pick up the quest and then wait 5 mins after completion before doing it again. And you get loot. Good to know :)
    PC | EU
  • Valykc
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    I was doing a flawless run, got a crap ton of lag, then got booted from the game, when I came back I was dead :(
  • Seratopia
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    My first play through of vma (took me a long time to get to stage 9). I was playing stage 9 last round all day for about a week. And I mean all day long. So much swearing and actual sweat and tears went into this stage all others but this the most. The final stretch comes along, I got all my gold ghosts, boss is barely at execute range, my SO is watching, I yell excitedly I'm going to finally beat this devil spawn of an arena! I power up overload and spam the boss, then... My character locks up and spams HEAVY ATTACK. I yell nooooooo! They are no longer stunned. My character is still heavy overloading, I bash to snap her out of it, no time to shield and you can guess what happened next. Boss only needed one good execute at that point.

    I'm dead. I'm in tears. Boyfriend got a good laugh out of it though.

    On bright side, I do have one completion.. I just don't know if I want to go through all that again. But I know I'll have to eventually.
    Edited by Seratopia on September 14, 2016 10:27AM
  • ValkynSketha
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    16runs without a single usable weapon. >_<
    Edited by ValkynSketha on September 14, 2016 10:29AM
  • Karacule_Fairystar
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    I can't complete the flawless because of these spikes in AND ONLY in Maelstrom.
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    When I opened the final chest for my first run through and got gold, a soul gem, a white rubedite sword, and a crappy trait winterborn robe. No weapons or even jewelry :lol:.
  • ryanborror
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    Stage 6 when the obelisks all appear clear so you domy know which ones are webbed
    dooderrr
    templars, nightblades
    PC/XB1 NA
  • jakeedmundson
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    bar not swapping and skills not firing... my main reason for deaths in this arena.
    CP690
    Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
    Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
    Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
    PS4 - DC
    vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless

    My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=1
  • Gargath
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    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.

    After an hour of intensive fight you looted just a single soul gem and blue Winterborn Ring in Robust? :D
    Edited by Gargath on October 28, 2016 3:04PM
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
  • Soleya
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    Gargath wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.

    After an hour of intensive fight you looted just a single soul gem and blue Winterborn Ring in Robust? :D

    It was normal, so I wasn't expecting anything good. It was mostly to get used to my new setup/build.

    Had an interesting death last night on vet. Final boss, got the the point where you go up top, break the 3 pillars, go back down, fight him down there collecting gold ghosts and dealing with the crematorial guards. And all the sudden the boss does that soul churn thing where he goes up in the air and the shock wave one shots me since there is no protective wall down below

    Didn't think it did that in the lower level, since I never had that happen in about 100+ attempts on that boss.
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Gargath wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.

    After an hour of intensive fight you looted just a single soul gem and blue Winterborn Ring in Robust? :D

    It was normal, so I wasn't expecting anything good. It was mostly to get used to my new setup/build.

    Had an interesting death last night on vet. Final boss, got the the point where you go up top, break the 3 pillars, go back down, fight him down there collecting gold ghosts and dealing with the crematorial guards. And all the sudden the boss does that soul churn thing where he goes up in the air and the shock wave one shots me since there is no protective wall down below

    Didn't think it did that in the lower level, since I never had that happen in about 100+ attempts on that boss.
    Is it possible he got three ghosts down on the bottom? If that happens it's up in the air with him and a oneshot death for you :lol: not pleasant if it happens.
  • Soleya
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    Gargath wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.

    After an hour of intensive fight you looted just a single soul gem and blue Winterborn Ring in Robust? :D

    It was normal, so I wasn't expecting anything good. It was mostly to get used to my new setup/build.

    Had an interesting death last night on vet. Final boss, got the the point where you go up top, break the 3 pillars, go back down, fight him down there collecting gold ghosts and dealing with the crematorial guards. And all the sudden the boss does that soul churn thing where he goes up in the air and the shock wave one shots me since there is no protective wall down below

    Didn't think it did that in the lower level, since I never had that happen in about 100+ attempts on that boss.
    Is it possible he got three ghosts down on the bottom? If that happens it's up in the air with him and a oneshot death for you :lol: not pleasant if it happens.

    Quite possible that happened. Was having a series of horrible attempts. Did beat it (Infused Greatsword for reward), but it took twice as long as my last run.
  • jakeedmundson
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    Gargath wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/-BxF2h1jpuE?t=1293

    Doing the normal (test run on this character). At 21:30 my only death. Since this is Normal wouldn't expect a death like that since nothing hits hard.

    After an hour of intensive fight you looted just a single soul gem and blue Winterborn Ring in Robust? :D

    It was normal, so I wasn't expecting anything good. It was mostly to get used to my new setup/build.

    Had an interesting death last night on vet. Final boss, got the the point where you go up top, break the 3 pillars, go back down, fight him down there collecting gold ghosts and dealing with the crematorial guards. And all the sudden the boss does that soul churn thing where he goes up in the air and the shock wave one shots me since there is no protective wall down below

    Didn't think it did that in the lower level, since I never had that happen in about 100+ attempts on that boss.

    I have it happen where the boss will teleport between me (running toward the gold ghost) and the ghost... he's killed me a few times by screwing me out of the ghost pick up. Somehow the boss just magically knows how to cut off the ghosts path and then eventually i die to that one shot.
    CP690
    Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
    Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
    Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
    Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
    PS4 - DC
    vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless

    My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=1
  • Trashkan
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    100 to 150+ runs and finally a inferno staff. To bad it's defending:-(
  • Soleya
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    Here's my latest from today. I'm still not very good at the arena, but would have had no deaths for stages 1-4 except for this.

    https://youtu.be/0-IzkWJATwU

    Still don't know what even killed me.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Here's my latest from today. I'm still not very good at the arena, but would have had no deaths for stages 1-4 except for this.

    https://youtu.be/0-IzkWJATwU

    Still don't know what even killed me.

    Lol that's killed me before too, and I've had similar deaths after completing stage 7 while looting the chest. Apparently enemy dots remain after they die despite player dots disappearing immediately on death.
    PC | EU
  • Soleya
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    Here's my latest from today. I'm still not very good at the arena, but would have had no deaths for stages 1-4 except for this.

    https://youtu.be/0-IzkWJATwU

    Still don't know what even killed me.

    Lol that's killed me before too, and I've had similar deaths after completing stage 7 while looting the chest. Apparently enemy dots remain after they die despite player dots disappearing immediately on death.

    Personally I think the dots should end when the boss dies. I started casting vigor now everytime a boss dies just in case. lol

    I also hate that on this stage the sigils are in the water, which can be electrified making it impossible to get them at times. Every other stage you can get them without standing in death.
  • darthsithis
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    Had one death tonight. It did that thing where I can run around but I'm dead and can't cast for like 4 seconds because of some lag.

    Sooooo piiiiisssseedsdd.

    Got and inferno staff tho!
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • darthsithis
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    And that passive that lets you press weapon swap and nothing happens and then you press again and it happens twice and you hard cast a frag instead of an execute.

    Nice little challenge.
    Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    It's really bad that I'm consistently cheated out of my flawless runs due solely to lag

    Share your VMA depression stories!

    It seems like a lame excuse, but I am in the same boat. I can do this arena in my sleep, but still don't have a flawless run. Admittedly, I have never tried the go to of grabbing every sigil in the arena, but that just seems silly.

    Without failure on a magic character, my staff will lock up at least once (overloads stop working as well), and it causes an eventual wipe. Without the ability to weave, your sustain and DPS go to crap. On stamina characters, I am constantly getting the stuck in sprint bug. Again, if it happens at the wrong time, its a wipe. I have lost count of the number of 1 death runs I have done. In fairness, I stopped running this place a while ago. Might give it a try again with the latest installment of power creep.

    What I do not understand (made several posts about it) is why a solo instance is hands down the buggies piece of content in the game. If this was a stand alone game, it would need recalled because it is so bad. There is no excuse for lag in a single player instance.
  • notimetocare
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    Designer of round 5 needs a new job imo...
  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    I just got robbed 3 times in a row on rounds 7, 8 and 9. Not one mistake, just broken lag. Losing interest in the whole thing. It really annoys me when I see people walking around with the Flawless title saying its easy.

    The title should say Flawless with: [Your ping/packet loss].

    At least then we could show off we beat the dodgy odds…
    My ping is higher than your resource recovery...
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