All dungeon drops BoP

AmberLaTerra

Is this an attempt to kill trade guilds, or just to kill players abilities to get to end game content without insane grinds?

Players need the gear to do things like trials and vet dungeons, but making that gear all bound on pick up will mean they cannot buy it from traders to get it and advance in the game without an insane grind fest to get the right traits in normal dungeons. All I see making all dungeon drops BoP doing is making even more of a divide between end game players and casual players who do not have the time to put in for gear sets like vipers, ebon, or worm for example, but can at least buy it now to participate in end game content.

The everything being BoP has to go, leave it to just the current sets and a couple of the newer sets as well as monster sets that are BoP so that both trade guild can continue to benefit from having the ability to sell the needed gear and casual players can still have access to that mid tier gear they need to learn to do trials and vet dungeons and get the current high end BoP gear.

Edit: Fixed typo

JarlUlfric

Exactly! I'll be doing a huge write up about it later tomorrow. Thanks for raising this issue Amber!

Shadesofkin

While I tend to sort of agree, keep in mind that most of what we would consider sellable is now dropping in overland where we can farm it with ease.

Avenias

This is the perfect system. It should have been in place from the start. You should not be allowed to simply use one toon and farm stuff for your other toons. You must be forced to play your other toons, if you wish to gear them up.

TheDarkRuler

Avenias wrote: »

This is the perfect system. It should have been in place from the start. You should not be allowed to simply use one toon and farm stuff for your other toons. You must be forced to play your other toons, if you wish to gear them up.

This won't change at all.
You can trade bound on pickup between your characters.

silky_soft

Avenias wrote: »

This is the perfect system. It should have been in place from the start. You should not be allowed to simply use one toon and farm stuff for your other toons. You must be forced to play your other toons, if you wish to gear them up.

Are you drunk?

Why keep pvp boe and make pve bop? Was already unfair you took impen from boe Pve gear

AmberLaTerra

Avenias wrote: »

This is the perfect system. It should have been in place from the start. You should not be allowed to simply use one toon and farm stuff for your other toons. You must be forced to play your other toons, if you wish to gear them up.

How does not being able to trade and sell the gear prevent what you are talking about it can all still be banked and used on your own other toons. Just no other players can ever buy it from you which is wrong, why should a player who can only play a few hours a week and cannot put aside the time to grind a divines red mountain piece for example be at a major disadvantage to someone like me who can put in the time to grind it?

I should be able to sell them that piece if I get a second one, not just have it go to the decon pile due to being bound and see no one every get use out of it.

Silver_Strider

Quite frankly, I don't have much problem with this.
Before if I wanted to farm Viper's Sting, I'd need to get a 12 man SO group going, which is a chore in and of itself sometimes. Following that, I'd need to hope that Viper Sting pieces would drop at all, considering that there were a fairly large number of sets that SO could drop. Then, there are the cost of potions, repairs, etc. to consider as well.

Now, I need to get a 4 man group going to farm Fungal, which is easier to set up and clear than SO runs by a mile.

Sure, I could pay to get Viper's Sting in Guild Traders but the only reason I even bothered to buy those sets in the first place is because the hassle of getting a trial group together and actually doing the trial. I'd run SO all day if it didn't take me an hour and a half just to set up the group.

I won't speak of the economy as I have a bias opinion on it.

Mayrael

Dont worry! New "Unbind scrolls" can be found exclusively in our new lottery boxes so will be able to sell stuff that was even used! Problem solved.

Iyas

I dont know what to think. I can farm everything I want open world..

Darlon

Iyas wrote: »

I dont know what to think. I can farm everything I want open world..

That's the second part of this: Everything that can be found in trials (except the trial specific sets that are BoP already anyways) can now be found in overland content. It is lower quality, but upgrading is easy anyways...

So even if trial loot would still be BoE, prices would drop...

Exception of all this is of course the jewelry, which can not be upgraded.

AmberLaTerra

Darlon wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

I dont know what to think. I can farm everything I want open world..

That's the second part of this: Everything that can be found in trials (except the trial specific sets that are BoP already anyways) can now be found in overland content. It is lower quality, but upgrading is easy anyways...

So even if trial loot would still be BoE, prices would drop...

Exception of all this is of course the jewelry, which can not be upgraded.

Onlya few of the sets are in the open world, most of the current BoE Trial sets are being moved to dungeons where they will all be BoP. That is made quite clear in the PTS patch notes. Sets like Vipers sting, Dreugh King Slayer, Ebon, Worm, Hircine's and so on will ONLY be in dungeons so only be BoP.

What is worse is how the gold jewelry of these sets will be in the Cyro vendor which is a slap in the face to PvE end game content players who have been working so hard to get these now to have no way to get them in Gold via PvE.

Peekachu99

Gear is more readily available across dungeons and content in general. I see no issue with the proposed changes, but I never buy anything from the market anyway, since it's prices and practices are cutthroat and absurd.

I sit on my piles of gold like Smaug. And it's wonderful.