[EU/PC] 1v1 Tournament - OPEN for everyone!

Lieblingsjunge

Hey guys!

The new and game-changing patch is soon upon us, so before the new era of ESO begins, we would like to invite EVERYONE to take part in the tournament and join us in celebrating this event! As the title says, the tournament is open to EVERYONE. It doesn’t matter whether you’re a seasoned veteran, a newbie, a returning player or just.. You! You’re all very welcome to participate. The tournament is not hosted by a guild, it is hosted by players. So you do not need to be a member of a specific guild to take part. Neither is it affiliated with any guild. And we would appreciate if you could leave your hate for specific guilds out of this.

If you’re not into fighting and/or duelling, you can come and watch the fights with us! We would love to have you with us, even though you don’t want to directly take part! We want this to be a community event, and you can’t have a community event if only a handful people show up! Bring your friends, girlfriends, aunts, grannys and pets and join us! The only way to make this a killer-event(ha-ha, joke’s on me), is if as many as possible show up! The more the merrier :>

Table of Content
1) Rules. Mandatory read for everyone who want’s to participate.
2) Date/Time/Location
3) How to sign up & information to the participants
4) Information to the audience
5) General information
6) Information to Guilds and community-leaders

1) Rules
-No Malubeth/Stormknight set;
-No Fasalla's
-No Viper + Velidreth COMBO
-No Champion Points change;
-No Poisons;
-No Immovable, Vitality or Detection potions;
-No abusive/excessive cloaking. Staying cloaked for more than 4 seconds is prohibited.
-No Gear Change;
-No Skills Change;
-If using Shieldbreaker, no spams are allowed.
(We know that banning items/gear is risky, but we want to make the fights interesting, and not about who stacked the most damage).

- The fight will start when one of the judges uses Siege Shield.
- Ultimates used on the judges pre-fight.
- The judges’ decision is final. You can disagree, but it won’t change the decision.
- Major lags/weapon swap-bugs may occur. If it is a significant game-changer, the duel can be reset up to a total of two(2) times, if the fight hasn’t lasted longer than 3 minutes. Judges should be notified immediately if one of the fighters experience lag.
- Maximum duration of a fight(unless it’s the semis/final) 6 minutes.
- If the judges interfere with the fight(e.g. walks into the middle of the fight) the fight should end immediately.
- The 5k participation fee has to be mailed before your registration is complete.
- You are NOT allowed to change your skills, gear or CP during the tournament. You have to use the same set-up every fight.

2) Date/Time and Location
17th of September. 19.00 CET(Germany-time). Participants are expected to meet on site at least 10 minutes before the tournament begins. Location will be given on a later date. If you wan’t to help us balance out Spell Breaker or Haderus beforehand, let us know!

3) How to sign up and general information to the participants
Send the following requirements via mail to @ILoveCheese:
- Your skills description (both bars) that you will use in the tournament. (Also your overload bar).
- Mention THE FACTION of the character you're fighting with
- Put your NAME in the SUBJECT box
- Also attach 5000gold(5k) to the Mail as an entrance fee. The entrance fee in it’s entirety will go into the prize-pool.

4) Information to the audience
- You can under no circumstances interfere with the fight
- When the tournament has ended and a winner has been crowned: You are free to kill each other So put on some hardcore music and join the mosh pit!
- Read section 6) if you want to help us out!
- Please don’t spam any flashy skills while watching the tournament, as this may cause unnecessary FPS-drops.

5) General information
- We will make sure that the tournament is streamed! This will be sorted out on a later date.

6) Information to Guild- and community leaders
As stated before, this tournament is open to EVERYONE. But it wouldn’t be a community event if not everyone was invited or informed about the tournament! Are you the leader of a guild or a known person within the community? I would LOVE to get in touch with you! Whisper me in-game, send me a message on the forums or reply to this thread. The more that knows about this, the better.


NBNB: If you have any questions, ask them here on the forums, or whisper @ILoveCheese or me ingame!
Note: This is an OPEN tournament, all inappropiate behaviour will either result in disqualification/exclusion from the tournament. Just put your disputes and disagreements aside!

LOCATION IS REVEALED! West of Dolmen - North of Chalman. Far East of Bruma. North of Chalman-North-Gate. South-East of Dragonclaw.

KenaPKK

I sincerely wish you the best. Competitive dueling is next to dead on PC. Hard to take it seriously with the game's current state of balance. Our skilled dueling community is completely checked out.

Also how do you enforce some of your rules, namely gear, skills, and CP change?

Lieblingsjunge

KenaPKK wrote: »

I sincerely wish you the best. Competitive dueling is next to dead on PC. Hard to take it seriously with the game's current state of balance. Our skilled dueling community is completely checked out.

Also how do you enforce some of your rules, namely gear, skills, and CP change?

Yeah, but I fear next patch is gonna be even worse :-( So hoping that this won't be *that* bad, in terms of balance. It's hard to know what to ban, I mean, we didn't want to force people to use certain sets only - or play in a specific way. But some things are just too strong in a 1v1. I mean, we could've banned reactives+ transmutation aswell, but who goes to a 1v1 wearing that... :-D

Even though the game has been completely ruined in terms of duelling, I hope that we'll get some nice and interesting fights.

We hope that people got enough respect for tournaments, so they won't do that. Since they have to list their skills to us, we got some idea on which set-up/skills they're using. If they use one skill one fight, and use completely different skills in another fight, then we know they changed :-P And I also know that some of the people that signed up, are honest & solid guys, so if they notice something; they'll tell us

But mainly we hope that the people participating are nice enough to follow the rules. It's hard to enforce, but we'll do our best and see how it ends up eventually

Edit: TL;DR. Players are signing up for the tournament, and okay, I'm naive, but I don't wanna go around and be sceptical. If they care enough to sign up for our tournament, I think we owe it to them to trust that they follow the rules also

Abob

Please, ban black rose, reactive, ravager, heavy armor, engine guardian, bloodspawn, molag kena...

Ban armor sets or pros will cry.

Lieblingsjunge

Abob wrote: »

Please, ban black rose, reactive, ravager, heavy armor, engine guardian, bloodspawn, molag kena...

Ban armor sets or pros will cry.

Yeah. Let's ban everything and have a Fist-Fight. Badum tss. Strongest fist wins.

KisoValley

1v1 tournament where every stamina build will run heavy woo!

Lieblingsjunge

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

KisoValley

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

I said it to cheese and I'll repeat here. Any duel that ends in a draw should result I'm both players going out. People should gear to win even if it's risky.

Cheese

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

I said it to cheese and I'll repeat here. Any duel that ends in a draw should result I'm both players going out. People should gear to win even if it's risky.

I did discuss this with Lieb, but the thing with implementing this is that the fight is based more on the build of the characters instead of the skill of the players.
Take, for example, a magicka Sorcerer who knows how to keep her/his shields up very well but clearly has less skill than his/her opponent. We simply can't go for the choice to drop em both.
And we will, ofcourse, judge as objective and precise as possible.

Cheese

KisoValley wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

I doubt it, i already have experience with hosting a tournament. On average 10% of the fights ended in a draw, which was suprisingly good. I do nevertheless expect more draws to be occuring in this tournament due to that the meta changed to Heavy Armor, but that'll still be fine, I can assure you.

We'll figure something out for the final if it, indeed, seems to be lasting for a really long time. We will also try to keep the solution as skill-based as possible.

Cheers ^^

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Cheese wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

I said it to cheese and I'll repeat here. Any duel that ends in a draw should result I'm both players going out. People should gear to win even if it's risky.

I did discuss this with Lieb, but the thing with implementing this is that the fight is based more on the build of the characters instead of the skill of the players.
Take, for example, a magicka Sorcerer who knows how to keep her/his shields up very well but clearly has less skill than his/her opponent. We simply can't go for the choice to drop em both.
And we will, ofcourse, judge as objective and precise as possible.

Sending them both out would encourage people who just focused on sustain and survival to adapt imo but its your tourny

KisoValley

Cheese wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

I doubt it, i already have experience with hosting a tournament. On average 10% of the fights ended in a draw, which was suprisingly good. I do nevertheless expect more draws to be occuring in this tournament due to that the meta changed to Heavy Armor, but that'll still be fine, I can assure you.

We'll figure something out for the final if it, indeed, seems to be lasting for a really long time. We will also try to keep the solution as skill-based as possible.

Cheers ^^

Making Shey and Malcolm drop shields made skill completely irrelevant. Shey won based on build/skills/class within like 2 minutes was it? when they got ordered to drop shields. I'm mates with the judges of that tournament but they made a poor decision in that scenario, really poor.

Also the last MP tournament a lot more than 10% of fights ended in a draw lol. And that wasn't even a heavy armour meta.

Lieblingsjunge

We'll make

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Cheese wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

I said it to cheese and I'll repeat here. Any duel that ends in a draw should result I'm both players going out. People should gear to win even if it's risky.

I did discuss this with Lieb, but the thing with implementing this is that the fight is based more on the build of the characters instead of the skill of the players.
Take, for example, a magicka Sorcerer who knows how to keep her/his shields up very well but clearly has less skill than his/her opponent. We simply can't go for the choice to drop em both.
And we will, ofcourse, judge as objective and precise as possible.

Sending them both out would encourage people who just focused on sustain and survival to adapt imo but its your tourny

It wouldn't really be any interesting and entertaining fights if they would, in e.g. a NB's case: Who can hit the first heavy - incap - veli -executioner. At least that's my view, anyway. And I still don't think people come into a 1v1 with the mindset "I'm just gonna tank this guy until the timer runs out". But that might just be me, having too much faith in humanity ;D


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Just like in football, bad decisions happen. Things happens fast, a decision has to be made ASAP. Most of the times the decisions are right, but sometimes the decisions are wrong. Sadly, people seem to only remember the wrong decisions.

Abob

CP campaign = every duel will last more than 6 mins unless one of the players sucks.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

KisoValley wrote: »

Cheese wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

I doubt it, i already have experience with hosting a tournament. On average 10% of the fights ended in a draw, which was suprisingly good. I do nevertheless expect more draws to be occuring in this tournament due to that the meta changed to Heavy Armor, but that'll still be fine, I can assure you.

We'll figure something out for the final if it, indeed, seems to be lasting for a really long time. We will also try to keep the solution as skill-based as possible.

Cheers ^^

Making Shey and Malcolm drop shields made skill completely irrelevant. Shey won based on build/skills/class within like 2 minutes was it? when they got ordered to drop shields. I'm mates with the judges of that tournament but they made a poor decision in that scenario, really poor.

Also the last MP tournament a lot more than 10% of fights ended in a draw lol. And that wasn't even a heavy armour meta.

Well don't forget Shey also had emp + scroll buffs. I still think he might have won based on build but it was a large advantage.

Lieblingsjunge

Abob wrote: »

CP campaign = every duel will last more than 6 mins unless one of the players sucks.

The thing that seperates a better player from a good player, is the player's ability to punish a mistake. It will be held on a CP-campaign, as most people have a build or a set-up for CP.

WillhelmBlack

I like the rules but unfortunately I won't participate in any duelling events due to everyone basically just running the meta gear for every class. I only actually dual on PTS when new gear is out as you can fight various types of builds and it's never about the winning or who is the better player, I find it a lot of fun. Duelling 20 NB's in a row all wearing Viper/Black Rose and running Incapacitating Strike is not fun.

I'll pass it on to the guild mates, I'm sure a couple will be up for it! I just cannot wait for duelling in update 12 so I can duel friends.

Angi

woah this looks awesome,not sure if i would try participate but i totally will be there for watch it

Lieblingsjunge

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I like the rules but unfortunately I won't participate in any duelling events due to everyone basically just running the meta gear for every class. I only actually dual on PTS when new gear is out as you can fight various types of builds and it's never about the winning or who is the better player, I find it a lot of fun. Duelling 20 NB's in a row all wearing Viper/Black Rose and running Incapacitating Strike is not fun.

I'll pass it on to the guild mates, I'm sure a couple will be up for it! I just cannot wait for duelling in update 12 so I can duel friends.

Aah, that would be great! Thanks
Yeah, oooh, I can imagine holding a duelling-tournament in a PvE-zone *-*!

Angi wrote: »

woah this looks awesome,not sure if i would try participate but i totally will be there for watch it

Yay! Would be great, Angi

KisoValley

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Cheese wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

I doubt it, i already have experience with hosting a tournament. On average 10% of the fights ended in a draw, which was suprisingly good. I do nevertheless expect more draws to be occuring in this tournament due to that the meta changed to Heavy Armor, but that'll still be fine, I can assure you.

We'll figure something out for the final if it, indeed, seems to be lasting for a really long time. We will also try to keep the solution as skill-based as possible.

Cheers ^^

Making Shey and Malcolm drop shields made skill completely irrelevant. Shey won based on build/skills/class within like 2 minutes was it? when they got ordered to drop shields. I'm mates with the judges of that tournament but they made a poor decision in that scenario, really poor.

Also the last MP tournament a lot more than 10% of fights ended in a draw lol. And that wasn't even a heavy armour meta.

Well don't forget Shey also had emp + scroll buffs. I still think he might have won based on build but it was a large advantage.

Yep. However the judges didn't even take that into consideration and decided to *** Malcolm over later on. During the first fight, it was clear Malcolm was out performing Shey (even though Shey had emp/scroll buffs etc.), everyone at the fight was saying it in MP chat as well as in Blobs stream chat.

@Lieblingsjunge There were quite a few questionable decision in terms of the draws in that tournament, not just one. The top end players don't make mistakes until 15+ minutes into a duel, like in the finals of the last MP tournament. As mentioned before, you need to find a campaign that doesn't have emp etc. buffs too otherwise you may as well hand at least 2 of the semi final spots to some people in that alliance lol.

Also, you do have too much faith in humanity lol.

Lieblingsjunge

KisoValley wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Cheese wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Yes. Well, if the fights last longer than 6 minutes, the fight will end and Judges will decide on a winner :">

Problem is almost every fight will last 6 minutes.

Hope bad decisions like the decision made in Malcolm vs Shey's semi final duels don't get made either. Quite clear who was winning based on pressure/not camping mines etc. and someone/some people made the decision to take shields off which handed the win to Shey purely because of his skill setup, build and race.

e: Nonetheless I wish everyone involved good luck and to the you Lieb/others who are organising it. Hope you start early enough because a lot of 6 minute duels will be happening lol.

I doubt it, i already have experience with hosting a tournament. On average 10% of the fights ended in a draw, which was suprisingly good. I do nevertheless expect more draws to be occuring in this tournament due to that the meta changed to Heavy Armor, but that'll still be fine, I can assure you.

We'll figure something out for the final if it, indeed, seems to be lasting for a really long time. We will also try to keep the solution as skill-based as possible.

Cheers ^^

Making Shey and Malcolm drop shields made skill completely irrelevant. Shey won based on build/skills/class within like 2 minutes was it? when they got ordered to drop shields. I'm mates with the judges of that tournament but they made a poor decision in that scenario, really poor.

Also the last MP tournament a lot more than 10% of fights ended in a draw lol. And that wasn't even a heavy armour meta.

Well don't forget Shey also had emp + scroll buffs. I still think he might have won based on build but it was a large advantage.

Yep. However the judges didn't even take that into consideration and decided to *** Malcolm over later on. During the first fight, it was clear Malcolm was out performing Shey (even though Shey had emp/scroll buffs etc.), everyone at the fight was saying it in MP chat as well as in Blobs stream chat.

@Lieblingsjunge There were quite a few questionable decision in terms of the draws in that tournament, not just one. The top end players don't make mistakes until 15+ minutes into a duel, like in the finals of the last MP tournament. As mentioned before, you need to find a campaign that doesn't have emp etc. buffs too otherwise you may as well hand at least 2 of the semi final spots to some people in that alliance lol.

Also, you do have too much faith in humanity lol.

Naah, you're having too much faith in good duellers :-D And given the fact that they know that a lot of people are watching, maybe, just maybe they'll feel a bit pressured :-D So I think they will, tbh. Mistakes happens too easily in the game, anyway. As I said, we would like to have an even map, so we'll try to depose / spread out the keeps before the tournament. But as we all know, DC/EP likes their dead buff-campaigns ;-)

Lieblingsjunge

UPDATE: We are gonna reveal the location soon! Unfortunately there's NPCs invading the best locations

We also added Fasalla's to the list of banned Item-sets.

The brackets will be made using a random number generator, to keep the first rounds as open & fair as possible!

Mojomonkeyman

Good stuff, would love to participate, unfortunately I wont be home that weekend.

Good luck to all atttendees.

Lieblingsjunge

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Good stuff, would love to participate, unfortunately I wont be home that weekend.

Good luck to all atttendees.

Aww Hope you'll enjoy whatever you're gonna be doing!

Lieblingsjunge

There will be a total of 4 judges and all the judges are equal. We don't want it to be any surprises, so we'll give you the judges' IDs. (Note: Bribing is not allowed! )

Their in-game ID:
1) @Ragnaroek93
2) @Valencer
3) @ILoveCheese
4) @Lieblingsjunge

WE ARE REALLY HYPED AND WE HOPE YOU ARE TOO!

KisoValley

Already bribed Valencar btw you need a new judge.

Lieblingsjunge

KisoValley wrote: »

Already bribed Valencar btw you need a new judge.

Psssht, I'm confident that Luci doesn't take Bribes! :> Unless he's emperor.... Maybe.

Lieblingsjunge

Another UPDATE:
We thought we didn't have to point it out, as no one with a tiny bit of dignity would abuse it, but just to clarify( @KisoValley was right. I have too much faith in people):

Abusive(Excessive) Cloaking is NOT allowed. Excessive being, cloak-one attack-cloak-one-attack-cloak-one-attack, and stay in Cloak for more than 4 seconds at a time(does not include attacking once and then 4 seconds into cloak again..). Hope this clarifies it. Other than that, I suggest using common sense !

Derra

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

-No Detection potions

I want gapcloser use after streak banned aswell ok?

For a ranged build detection potions are literally the only half working counter to cloak.

Lieblingsjunge

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

-No Detection potions

I want gapcloser use after streak banned aswell ok?

For a ranged build detection potions are literally the only half working counter to cloak.

We know. But cloaking is a part of the game-mechanic and allowing detection-potions, would make it pretty useless. But it's also why we added the no abusive cloaking-rule. I mean, personally I thought it was the kind of thing no one did anyway, but heeey.