Dragons?

Steel-256

Saw the Dragon Priest costume and in the description they were people who worshiped Dragons, but when talked about in videos by Lawrence he says there are no dragons in ESO. Why would there be a dragon priest set with that description plus a dragon knight class lol? My real question is why not? Why couldn't we have a flying mount like a dragon? But the bigger question is where does that costume description history really come from if there is no dragons or ever will be in ESO? So there it is, DRAGONS, yes lots of people would love to see a flying mount but understand the lore to the game is a must to keep in tact with the game. anyways keep up the great work!

Daemons_Bane

Okay to answer the question a little bit The dragons, and their cults, rose to power long before ESO takes place.. In this time period, the dragons are hiding/dead/asleep.. There are people however, who still worships them, hence why we can have the dragon priest outfit.. You will not however, see them ingame as beasts or mounts, as that will break the lore, which is a big thing in this game.. The closest thing you will get to them in ESOTU, is fighting Titans, which are the daedric version of a dragon.. The first ever Titan was actually made from a dragon, as can be read in this book: http://www.esohead.com/books/2669-daedra-dossier-the-titans

WhiteMage

I'm no expert on the lore of elder scrolls, but from what little I looked into, it seems that dragons started out at the beginning of time (some sort of aedra?) and have appeared at various points due to some time shift or whatever (of which there are 3). Akatosh and his magic of time or something. Anyway, the dragons have been removed from existence so to speak in the ESO time and have been relocated to somewhere further in the timeline. I'm sure there's countless flaws in my explanation/interpretation, but suffice to say, there are no dragons.

And flying mounts are out of the question because of "shortcuts" they took when world building. Iirc one example of this can be found when jumping off that lighthouse cliff in auridon. It was a while ago, but I seem to recall landing on a ledge in the middle of the air. Basically, not everything you see is solid, and not everything you don't see is empty space. Major issues would arise from a flying mount; you'd get in and out of things you shouldn't (like keeps in pvp lol) and rather than completely rebuild the entire map, they figured they'd create some new content (to sell at absurd prices from time to time).

Steel-256

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Okay to answer the question a little bit The dragons, and their cults, rose to power long before ESO takes place.. In this time period, the dragons are hiding/dead/asleep.. There are people however, who still worships them, hence why we can have the dragon priest outfit.. You will not however, see them ingame as beasts or mounts, as that will break the lore, which is a big thing in this game.. The closest thing you will get to them in ESOTU, is fighting Titans, which are the daedric version of a dragon.. The first ever Titan was actually made from a dragon, as can be read in this book: http://www.esohead.com/books/2669-daedra-dossier-the-titans

thank you so much for that, it explains a lot. great reply and very insightful.

Steel-256

Should have never asked a question. Thank you all for the comments. Have a great morning and long live ESO!

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Also are you people aware that Dragons are NOT mindless beasts, they are intelligent, immortal and have a powerful language of their own and the very words when spoken can conjure thunderstorms and rain fire from above, these Dragons were first created when Fragments splintered from AKA, they are semi-divine beings where as your character is a mere mortal who doesn't even know their language.

Well they are not totally powerful for that matter Remember the Blades an order that in the first Era could call themselves dragonslayers

Dragons are Immortal and only another Dragon or a Dragonborn can truly kill them, What the blades did was akin to merely knocking them unconscious for an extended period of time before Alduin came along and woke them up, no blade has ever actually killed a dragon themselves because mere mortals can't do that, you need to absorb their soul to truly defeat them.

BTW the blades didn't exist in the first era, they came about in the second when they travelled to Tamriel to seek Reman Cyrodiil and back then they were called the Dragonguard not the blades.

Ffastyl

Since no one answered why Dragonknights exist:

The Akaviri invaded northeastern Tamriel (Skyrim and Morrowind) in 2E 572, a mere 10 years before our sacrifice to Molag Bal. Whether by defection, capture or some other means, Akaviri arms-trainers remained in Tamriel after the invasion. These trainers taught a martial style that emulated dragons. Those that learned this martial style became known as Dragonknights and may have taught this style to yet other denizens of our continent.

Some extra background information:

This Akaviri invasion is what catalyzed the formation of the Ebonheart Pact. Barely repulsing the invaders, the Nords and Dunmer decided it was in their best interest to form a defensive alliance. The Saxhleel were freed ostensibly as recompense for fighting valiantly during the invasion, but may have been coerced by the Nords in the formation of the Pact. They fight in Cyrodiil currently because they perceive either other alliance taking the throne would be a threat to their autonomy.

The Ebonheart Pact is the first alliance to crumble, as none of the races really trusted each other.

The Akaviri are largely a mystery. Their continent of Akavir has been mentioned in writings but never visited in any Elder Scrolls title. What we do know of their culture is that they are predominantly man-beasts, snakemen, monkeymen and the like. Dragons are also active on the continent of Akavir and they have a special force, mentioned above, dedicated specifically to eradicating dragons. It is unknown if dragons ever do or ever were or ever are extinct on Akavir.

Many high ranking officials in the Empire have been of Akaviri descent. A small handful have been full-blooded races from Akavir.

The magics Dragonknights employ can be categorized under the Destruction and Alteration schools of magic (which have yet to be established outside a few private colleges). While some believe these spells were used by or adapted from dragon magic, there is only contextual evidence to support this (such as the dragon theme). Actual dragon magic, or more precisely their native tongue, which we call the Thu'um, does not resemble Dragonknight magic by any significant notion.

Dragon priests have already been explained but I'll throw my own knowledge onto the pile.

In the Merethic Era (predating the first Empire), dragons ruled Skyrim. Men were enslaved to them and Dragon Priests acted as intermediaries. For reasons currently lost, the dragons began ruling over men with an iron fist. This led to a rebellion known as the Dragon War. The dragon cult was overthrown and its loyal members (priests included) were hunted down. The dragons were also hunted to near extinction (two survived the purge). Because of the power granted to Dragon Priests in life, they passed into undeath and resurrected their adherents as draugr.

The leader of the dragons, Alduin, was unable to be slain by men, so they used an Elder Scroll to trap him in a time slip. Alduin escaped that time slip into 4E 201, kick-starting the events of the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The other dragon to survive the purge was Paarthurnax, who tamed the domination in his nature and sided with men.

Dragons are not only a distinct race but a type of spirit or demi-god, similar to daedra. Like daedra, their bodies can be destroyed, but their souls cannot. Therefore killing them, in the permanent sense, is impossible. Except for the Dragonborn. Mentioned above, the Dragonborn has the ability to absorb dragon souls, similar to a soul gem. Through this method, dragon souls can be prevented from resurrecting in a new body, thereby truly killing them.

Steel-256

DRAGONS ARE HERE BOYS!!!!

Mettaricana

Dragons are extinct before eso timeline and don't return from the dead til skyrim

Carraig

Here we go again..... Before you post something chewed out so often already like this, you really should use the search option for dragon mounts or flying mounts... Do you really think that you, after the 2 years this game is online, are the very first person who comes up with this question???

bebynnag

just because the dragons are extinct it doesnt mean they are forgotten,
dragon bones scatter the landscape,
books reminiscing about the times of dragons are still in popular circulation
why does the existence of dragon priests & dragon knights make you LOL?

Steel-256

Carriag you don't have to be so negative geez its just a question. Pay it forward not backwards! Be positive. Questions are how you get answers, and yes after two years the game has been online i know there have been many questions asked about this but people are going to keep asking because its something we that ask would love to see and know more about. But thank you for your response.

incite

With a little creativity and imagination, all is possible


Even flying mounts and dragons

Daemons_Bane

and rather than completely rebuild the entire map, they figured they'd create some new content (to sell at absurd prices from time to time).

Unless you have written proof of this, don't go spewing out stuff like this please..

Balticthunder

Please can we stop these threads about dragons as flying mounts - do you people really need to bring WOW into every other game you play?!

WhiteMage

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

and rather than completely rebuild the entire map, they figured they'd create some new content (to sell at absurd prices from time to time).

Unless you have written proof of this, don't go spewing out stuff like this please..

Hmmm? What part? The prices? My personal opinion on things like the Breton hero armor and the dro-m'athra senche (I bought both). The reconstruct the map part? I distinctly remember hearing/reading a dev say something about that and if it weren't 1:30 in the morning I'd look for it.

I'll show you what I can find then. And if/when I do find it, I'll have some choice words for ya

Daemons_Bane

Steel-256 wrote: »

Should have never asked a question. Thank you all for the comments. Have a great morning and long live ESO!

Never be afraid to ask questions they are part of learning

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Also are you people aware that Dragons are NOT mindless beasts, they are intelligent, immortal and have a powerful language of their own and the very words when spoken can conjure thunderstorms and rain fire from above, these Dragons were first created when Fragments splintered from AKA, they are semi-divine beings where as your character is a mere mortal who doesn't even know their language.

Daemons_Bane

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Also are you people aware that Dragons are NOT mindless beasts, they are intelligent, immortal and have a powerful language of their own and the very words when spoken can conjure thunderstorms and rain fire from above, these Dragons were first created when Fragments splintered from AKA, they are semi-divine beings where as your character is a mere mortal who doesn't even know their language.

Well they are not totally powerful for that matter Remember the Blades an order that in the first Era could call themselves dragonslayers

bebynnag

WhiteMage wrote: »

I'm no expert on the lore of elder scrolls, but from what little I looked into, it seems that dragons started out at the beginning of time (some sort of aedra?) and have appeared at various points due to some time shift or whatever (of which there are 3). Akatosh and his magic of time or something. Anyway, the dragons have been removed from existence so to speak in the ESO time and have been relocated to somewhere further in the timeline. I'm sure there's countless flaws in my explanation/interpretation, but suffice to say, there are no dragons.

And flying mounts are out of the question because of "shortcuts" they took when world building. Iirc one example of this can be found when jumping off that lighthouse cliff in auridon. It was a while ago, but I seem to recall landing on a ledge in the middle of the air. Basically, not everything you see is solid, and not everything you don't see is empty space. Major issues would arise from a flying mount; you'd get in and out of things you shouldn't (like keeps in pvp lol) and rather than completely rebuild the entire map, they figured they'd create some new content (to sell at absurd prices from time to time).

i was in glenumbra yesterday, running the quest at the mill wearing my full training set of SPC, dropped ritual of retribution in a barn/dock/home by the sea filled with fire and all these blue glowing arms showed up! they seemed to be positioned where the fires were, so who knows what this part of the quest was like originally, but it was weird!

Daemons_Bane

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Also are you people aware that Dragons are NOT mindless beasts, they are intelligent, immortal and have a powerful language of their own and the very words when spoken can conjure thunderstorms and rain fire from above, these Dragons were first created when Fragments splintered from AKA, they are semi-divine beings where as your character is a mere mortal who doesn't even know their language.

Well they are not totally powerful for that matter Remember the Blades an order that in the first Era could call themselves dragonslayers

Dragons are Immortal and only another Dragon or a Dragonborn can truly kill them, What the blades did was akin to merely knocking them unconscious for an extended period of time before Alduin came along and woke them up, no blade has ever actually killed a dragon themselves because mere mortals can't do that.

Well just to be that guy they are not immortal at all then hehe.. But I can't actually remember if the soul part was just made to explain the gameplay in Skyrim.. I seem to remember reading somewhere that it's actually not the case, though not something I can back atm

TheDarkoil

There's a quest where you collect a dead dragons bones and put him back together, you speak to his ghost during it.

deleted220701-004865

Give us motorcycles. Explain it away with a Dragon Break.

Siohwenoeht

Steel-256 wrote: »

DRAGONS ARE HERE BOYS!!!!

Just because necromancers are a new class doesn't mean you should necro moldy threads...

ZOS_RogerJ

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