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Flag Guards in Imperial City Districts

UrQuan
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I haven't spent much time in Imperial City since the change to have flags that can be captured for your alliance to "control" a district (mostly because I've been busy doing Dark Brotherhood stuff). Now, I like the concept of it, and I think it's a great addition to the districts.

Am I the only one who thinks that the range at which they can detect you is a wee bit too big though? It seems like the same detection range that flag guards in Cyrodiil have, which is fine for Cyrodiil, but seems a little too big for the more confined Imperial City. This morning I was crouching right up against the wall separating the district I was in from the next district over, and they could detect me from there... So that makes their detection radius cover almost half the area of the district.

Too much? Is it basically impossible to do the district quests in IC these days unless your alliance controls the district? I haven't actually tried to capture a flag myself yet, so maybe it is almost impossible to do a district quest if you don't control the district, but maybe that's OK?

What do you guys think?
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  • Osteos
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    Something was amiss. I have been able to get much closer before being detected by the guards. They usually detect me right before I get within combat range. Did they agro on you as soon as you entered or did you get agro earlier and you were trying to stealth near the wall to drop it?

    The flags are very easy to solo, but they do take an eternity to flip which increases the danger of being attacked.
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  • arkansas_ESO
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    Agreed.


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  • UrQuan
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    Osteos wrote: »
    Something was amiss. I have been able to get much closer before being detected by the guards. They usually detect me right before I get within combat range. Did they agro on you as soon as you entered or did you get agro earlier and you were trying to stealth near the wall to drop it?

    The flags are very easy to solo, but they do take an eternity to flip which increases the danger of being attacked.
    I was fighting some mobs right beside the district wall when the guards detected me, and then they kept detecting me as I was trying to stealth. Because I ended up having to fight mobs at the same time the guards were attacking me, I got killed by an enemy player... Who, to be fair, very likely could have killed me anyway because I'm not good at PVP lol
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  • UrQuan
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    Hmm, I should be more clear about exactly what happened with them detecting me.

    I was fighting mobs right beside the district wall, the guards spotted me and started moving to attack.

    I killed the mobs and tried to stealth right against the wall and couldn't.

    I used Shadowy Disguise a couple of times (still right against the wall) in a row to get them to de-agro (successfully).

    As soon as I let Shadowy Disguise expire they detected me again.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    That's happening everywhere now. Once aggrod it takes a good 20s to de agg any npc using cloak. They just stand there saying "stunned" instead of just heading back to spawn.
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  • Neoauspex
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    You can get pretty close to the flag guards if you sneak up behind them. Anywhere in front of the trenches and they'll blast you.
  • Enodoc
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    Agreed that the detection range for the guards is too large. In such a confined space, these guards don't need the "extended detection radius" buff that the Cyrodiil guards have.
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  • Lokey0024
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    Think the detection limit is the same as the furthest they can be hit with any ability.
  • Qbiken
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    Agree, detection range is way to far
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  • makreth
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    It seems like the same detection range that flag guards in Cyrodiil have, which is fine for Cyrodiil, but seems a little too big for the more confined Imperial City.




    keyword, Bingo!
    Edited by makreth on September 1, 2016 1:33PM
  • Beardimus
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    Detection is quite big, But I've never experienced it as far as you had it. I actually think Cyro resources are worse (in particular as blocked LOS does nothing)

    I'm actually ok with the guards, one good ultimate kills all three pretty much if ur solo.
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  • Danksta
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    I agree about the detection range, but at least they're incredibly easy to kill.
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