health desyncs

frozywozy

So I've been getting alot of whispers the past month or so of people telling me that after zerging me down 10v1 or more for 2minutes straight, my health was showing at 0 the entire time, or my weapons were not showing up. They though I was hacking and reported me. I've never heard before of a health desync that happens only on one end (not mine). On my end my health shows up normal but on theirs it shows 0 hps. I just don't know how to figure out what causes it but I think Radiant Destruction through mist form may have something to do with it since it doesn't always get mitigated like jabs.

Health desyncs have been around for a long time. Until today I though there were only two kinds. The one where you see yourself at lower hps than 100% and you can't heal yourself back up. The one where your health frame will not go down even if someone damage you for a while, and then suddenly you die even if your frame shows your health above 0%. These two types of health desyncs will both show your bugged health pool to everyone around you.

Now the third type of health desync I'm being a victim of, it looks like only enemy players can see it because on my end my health looks just fine everytime.

Anybody else experienced that before?

Xexpo

Yes , I have actually, and I have no idea what causes it.
Even get wsp about why I'm not dead. (will add pics later if still saved)
And I was on my magplar
*tinfoil pitchforks engaged *

fastolfv_ESO

it happened with you tonight, saw 6 jesus beams on you in chal while you were running on the wall at 0% the entire time not dying

vortexman11

Its a bug I've only seen happen to Templars and its been around since about 1.6. (Prior to that you'd see them casting breath of life but still at 0% health because their heals were slightly stronger than the incoming damage they were taking)
You'll see them walking around blocking with their fists not casting but somehow sitting at 0% health. The truth is that on their end they're actually spamming breath of life and holding their shield up. You can see countless videos of this on YouTube with people calling them exploiters and other stuff.

Another bug that only happens with templars is when you'll see an enemy templar walk up to you, weapons sheathed, not casting anything then you'll suddenly fall over dead at 100% health, only to realise they were jabbing you the entire time yet it looked like they were just standing there...

Main problem is these bugs are nearly impossible to recreate (or at least I've never been able to) which means I don't think they'll be fixed by ZOS for a long time, they prolly don't even know they exist like 80% of the ESO community that just calls it an exploit. Please guys don't go around reporting people for things you don't understand, with recent events ZOS might actually believe and ban players over this mix of a visual bug and health desync.

NovaShadow

Interesting, I've actually reported the few people I saw doing it as I totally thought they were hacking. Now knowing on your end you've actually got a working healthbar, just 1 more thing ZOS broke along the line.

The sheathed weapons though I've seen multiple times, even with people I'm grouped with and not all were templars.

HoloYoitsu

KenaPKK

I wanna know about that visual bug that replaces one of your weapons with the other. That is so annoying.

frozywozy

vortexman11 wrote: »

Its a bug I've only seen happen to Templars and its been around since about 1.6. (Prior to that you'd see them casting breath of life but still at 0% health because their heals were slightly stronger than the incoming damage they were taking)
You'll see them walking around blocking with their fists not casting but somehow sitting at 0% health. The truth is that on their end they're actually spamming breath of life and holding their shield up. You can see countless videos of this on YouTube with people calling them exploiters and other stuff.

Another bug that only happens with templars is when you'll see an enemy templar walk up to you, weapons sheathed, not casting anything then you'll suddenly fall over dead at 100% health, only to realise they were jabbing you the entire time yet it looked like they were just standing there...

Main problem is these bugs are nearly impossible to recreate (or at least I've never been able to) which means I don't think they'll be fixed by ZOS for a long time, they prolly don't even know they exist like 80% of the ESO community that just calls it an exploit. Please guys don't go around reporting people for things you don't understand, with recent events ZOS might actually believe and ban players over this mix of a visual bug and health desync.

Thanks for clarifying that out.

danno8

frozywozy wrote: »

So I've been getting alot of whispers the past month or so of people telling me that after zerging me down 10v1 or more for 2minutes straight, my health was showing at 0 the entire time, or my weapons were not showing up. They though I was hacking and reported me. I've never heard before of a health desync that happens only on one end (not mine). On my end my health shows up normal but on theirs it shows 0 hps. I just don't know how to figure out what causes it but I think Radiant Destruction through mist form may have something to do with it since it doesn't always get mitigated like jabs.

Health desyncs have been around for a long time. Until today I though there were only two kinds. The one where you see yourself at lower hps than 100% and you can't heal yourself back up. The one where your health frame will not go down even if someone damage you for a while, and then suddenly you die even if your frame shows your health above 0%. These two types of health desyncs will both show your bugged health pool to everyone around you.

Now the third type of health desync I'm being a victim of, it looks like only enemy players can see it because on my end my health looks just fine everytime.

Anybody else experienced that before?

It is very strange. I noticed this with you aa few weeks ago and whispered you asking what you were seeing on your end and you told me that everything seemed fine for you (among some other not so pleasant things I might add ).

And again this happened yesterday or maybe the day before for you somewhere around Allessia. What was strange is the whole time it appeared as though your weapons were sheathed, and even though you were at 0% health (according to my visuals) my RD was only doing 900-1000 damage per tick unblocked.

It is very strange, and I have only noticed it with you for some reason. At least to the extent that you seem to run around for 15-20 seconds at 0% health. I have seen people run around for 2-3 seconds also at 0% health, but they quickly die.

LeifErickson

This must be a templar thing because I have only ever seen this happen once before on a magicka templar. The templar was just standing there and eating all of my damage like it knew it was at 0% and just wanted to show off that it was invincible, but maybe it was just a health desync.

Elong

Happened to me on my templar once as well, I put it down to my high ping but I think there are bugs associated with Templar.

Morostyle

thats a good decoy - now go full tankmode!

Vaoh

vortexman11 wrote: »

Its a bug I've only seen happen to Templars and its been around since about 1.6. (Prior to that you'd see them casting breath of life but still at 0% health because their heals were slightly stronger than the incoming damage they were taking)
You'll see them walking around blocking with their fists not casting but somehow sitting at 0% health. The truth is that on their end they're actually spamming breath of life and holding their shield up. You can see countless videos of this on YouTube with people calling them exploiters and other stuff.

Another bug that only happens with templars is when you'll see an enemy templar walk up to you, weapons sheathed, not casting anything then you'll suddenly fall over dead at 100% health, only to realise they were jabbing you the entire time yet it looked like they were just standing there...

Main problem is these bugs are nearly impossible to recreate (or at least I've never been able to) which means I don't think they'll be fixed by ZOS for a long time, they prolly don't even know they exist like 80% of the ESO community that just calls it an exploit. Please guys don't go around reporting people for things you don't understand, with recent events ZOS might actually believe and ban players over this mix of a visual bug and health desync.

This happened on nearly 50% of my Templar encounters last patch. Sometimes it'd last up to 10 secs after starting the fight. Very annoying.

Noticed that it normally occured when they dismounted off of a horse beforehand.