Motif madness

Fignutz821
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I'm all for new motifs, but what happened to the good old days where you find one book and know the whole thing... This is getting a bit ridiculous
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  • k9mouse
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    ZOS wants an ingame money sink. On the bright side, making one work to know a style does HELP to keep the boys crafters away from the men crafter.
  • Afafrenferr
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    It's to keep people playing I'd imagine. No reason to keep doing those dailies if you get the one book.
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  • Recremen
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    It's probably to keep old DLC relevant for a longer period of time. I really don't mind it at all myself. :3
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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    I agree, OP, it's stupid. All of my guilds are currently just running Maw, etc. on low level cheese over and over and OVER just to get as many pages as they can.

    Some people like to play this way, but it's not my cup of tea. Mainly, as Aziz said, cause I don't like huge pieces of *** in my tea.

  • Fignutz821
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    Just did 8 kvatch dailies and no motifs... Drop rate is just terrible too
    CR 561+
    LV 50 Nord Dk tank/stam DPS (stormproof)
    LV 50 High Elf Sorc DPS (flawless)
    LV 50 Argonian Templar Helaer (yes its a lizard, SMH)
    LV 50 Breton NB magicka DPS (stormproof)
    LV 50 Imperial Stamplar (Jabicus)
    LV 50 khajit Stamblade (Panthrro from the thunder cats)
    LV 50 Redguard stamsorc (stormproof/AD spy)
    LV 50 Dark Elf Magic DK (stormproof/ DC spy)

    All characters are NA EP xbox1 (I bleed red)
  • GreenhaloX
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    The only madness about it is the amount of gold folks are willing to dish out for the motifs.. wow!
  • DRXHarbinger
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    The only madness about it is the amount of gold folks are willing to dish out for the motifs.. wow!

    The true madness is some noobs actually don't bother to research thier prices. Currently someone trying dro m'artha swords for 500k lol but about 10 lines down 70k x5 of them. These are fast going to end up like xivkyn.
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  • Ourorboros
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    The only madness about it is the amount of gold folks are willing to dish out for the motifs.. wow!

    The true madness is some noobs actually don't bother to research thier prices. Currently someone trying dro m'artha swords for 500k lol but about 10 lines down 70k x5 of them. These are fast going to end up like xivkyn.

    They are only outrageously expensive for the first few weeks. To adapt an old adage:

    BUY IN HASTE, REPENT IN LEISURE >:)

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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    My only BIG thing on these are that as content gets older motif drop % should double initially
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  • Gargath
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    Another way to brag in guild chat, sometimes people (moslty guild masters) are linking in chat their master motif achievements awaiting applause ;).
    Imho diversity in motif is needed to play longer, also to complete those achievements.
    Then some can show their greedy nature by posting in general chat: "master crafter all motifs crafting on demand, 5k gold per item for 2-5 traits, 10k gold per item for 6-9 traits, if mats are provided"...
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  • Mady
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    Kinda like the 'find every page' thingy. You feel more satisfied when you finally have the whole book. >:)
    Edited by Mady on August 27, 2016 2:28PM
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  • Solariken
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    I love the new system of finding pages, but HATe the uneven drop rates of each page. Why do I have to get a hundred Outlaw Axes pages and almost nothing else? Super lame.
  • Kelces
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    You don't need to have every one of them. Some people's play style of course demands it, but it only takes away some special flavor of role-play in terms of having for example only few special people being able to craft one specific thing. Same goes for owners of certain weapons and armor.

    That's one of the factors, why MMO games turn out to look all the same. You have it in your hands, literally...
    You reveal yourself best in how you play.

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  • magnusthorek
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    What *** me off is that most of these people selling motifs for absurd prices and/or those who already completed them all did by farming dungeons at very low CP level (10 or so). This should be prohibited! RNG for motifs should be proportional to the difficult level.

    You want to, technically, cheat? Fine, but you'll have 90% less change to have the motifs if compared to those doing legitimately at CP160.
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  • TheDarkRuler
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    What *** me off is that most of these people selling motifs for absurd prices and/or those who already completed them all did by farming dungeons at very low CP level (10 or so). This should be prohibited! RNG for motifs should be proportional to the difficult level.

    You want to, technically, cheat? Fine, but you'll have 90% less change to have the motifs if compared to those doing legitimately at CP160.

    No.
    Imagine those with low-level actually want to do MoL on their level.
    So what now? Punish them?
  • bebynnag
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    all i need to complete abahas watch motif is gloves.

    i leveled thieves guild from 2 to 9 yesterday on 3 alts just doing the repeatable quests, i got at least 2 of everything except gloves.... :(

    WHY RNGEEBUS WHY!
  • Osteos
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    I like the daily system. It is much better then what they did with Glass. Glass I didn't even bother with. I will say that their rng is definitely flawed because just doing the dailies everyday for Minotaur and Order of the Hour and looking at guild stores, Assassin Daggers and belts drop WAY more then any of the other pcs. An absurd amount.
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  • k9mouse
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    What *** me off is that most of these people selling motifs for absurd prices and/or those who already completed them all did by farming dungeons at very low CP level (10 or so). This should be prohibited! RNG for motifs should be proportional to the difficult level.

    You want to, technically, cheat? Fine, but you'll have 90% less change to have the motifs if compared to those doing legitimately at CP160.

    Why hurt new players? More rare the item, more it will cost. If the market had a lot of one type of item. It will become cheaper.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    But why is glass still $40 in the crown store.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    But why is glass still $40 in the crown store.

    Because unlike other Motifs this one requires 10 "drops" to get just 1 chapter, or if you're uber lucky the entire motif, as well as cost 10k gold to even assemble. Any reason beyond that is just because Zenimax can lol
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on August 27, 2016 11:36PM
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  • tspecherb14_ESO
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    A player in the group I was in actually got the full mino book the other day (gold).
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    A player in the group I was in actually got the full mino book the other day (gold).

    (Someone's going to say it eventually so no offense but...) IF that's true then that's a start lol
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on August 27, 2016 11:40PM
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  • tspecherb14_ESO
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    A player in the group I was in actually got the full mino book the other day (gold).

    (Someone's going to say it eventually so no offense but...) IF that's true then that's a start lol

    Guess it could have been a fake link but seemed real to me. He asked me how much I thought it was worth and I guessed 250K given individual pages prices and a + for convenience. Maybe I was way off....

    Only have shoulders and staves left myself.
    Edited by tspecherb14_ESO on August 27, 2016 11:44PM
  • UltimaJoe777
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    They usually sell full books in Crown Store but I think they could at least do what they did with Glass and have a small chance to get the full book with all styles.

    A player in the group I was in actually got the full mino book the other day (gold).

    (Someone's going to say it eventually so no offense but...) IF that's true then that's a start lol

    Guess it could have been a fake link but seemed real to me. He asked me how much I thought it was worth and I guessed 250K given individual pages prices and a + for convenience. Maybe I was way off....

    Only have shoulders and staves left myself.

    I don't know about PC but on console you can't fake a link because you have to actually link it FROM the item itself.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on August 27, 2016 11:45PM
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  • magnusthorek
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    It's not hurt the new players, it's make them follow the game like everyone did one or two years back, with main questline, Cadwell's Silver and Gold, then DLCs and so on.

    And modifying the chance according to CP doesn't prevent them to scale up and "have fun", just prevent "smart-a**es" from, technically, cheating, because every single farmer I see is scaling dow ON PURPOSE.
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  • magnusthorek
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    *doubled*
    Edited by magnusthorek on August 28, 2016 1:07AM
    I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
    I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
    My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.
  • Didaco
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    The more you play, the more you pay.

    We should've expected this trend.
  • mdylan2013
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    I think motif farming takes up about 30% of my in game time, and I love it :-)
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