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Name Change is wayyyyy to expensive.
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petraeus1✭✭✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).0 -
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✭katiesmith12341 wrote: »
I came to the conclusion that the high price is to stop people from abusing this feature - some people are just jerks and choose inappropriate names and some are freaks, which could use that to harass and pester other players. In such cases GM intervention is required and wherever staff is involved this drives costs higher - I still think the price is unreasonable, but it could not be cheap by these reasons as well.
Why not make it cheap and limit the change to every 90 days, for example.
Why not choose a proper name at character creation, then you don't need a name change.
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snakester320✭✭✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!0 -
petraeus1✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!
Either way I disagree with the suggestion from Tandor that the community is to blame itself for ZOS' business practices (unless I misunderstood him/her).1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »snakester320 wrote: »race change is $31aud .. current price of 3000 crowns in the aud psn store thats ridiculous thats 1/3 a full game ( given most games in AUS are $80-$90.. hell even FFXVI ARR race change is only 20 or less based on euro conversion to AUD .. ZOS really trying to rip money off there players must be losing subs due to there unfixed issues .. NEED TO COVER THE COST!!
As I mentioned earlier, buy Crowns when they're on sale and everything in Crown Store is then 40% off.
ZOS going to do a sale when they drop a new dlc/or items in there crown store YEAH RIGHT.. like i said its ripping money off ppl when and how ever they can fact is though the price is stupid high name change prices alone is just disgusting and just plain stupid not sure about other platforms but with PSN your character name is like so small its not worth bothering with it unless you cant spell... seen some funny one over the years of mmos.. PSN ID stands out much more but still to change your player name for such a ridulous price ZOS praying on the menatally challenged or they are that themselves!!
It doesn't matter how high a price is set, if it's relating to something which isn't essential then it isn't ripping anyone off. People have complete freedom of choice as to whether to buy the item or not. There is zero reason to have to change a character's name, other than for a breach of naming policy in which case it'll be forced on you anyway at no cost. If you want to change the name because you've changed the race or gender of a character then all aspects are purely optional and you always have the option of re-rolling if you consider the cost too high a price to pay to avoid the grind of leveling up again.
As for getting crowns when they're on offer, no of course they aren't going to discount them when they have something new to launch like a DLC, nor will any retailer or other business. They'll discount them at quiet times in the market. You just need to be prepared and pick them up when they're cheap so you can spend them when you see something you want.Edited by Tandor on August 19, 2016 2:52PM1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!
Either way I disagree with the suggestion from Tandor that the community is to blame itself for ZOS' business practices (unless I misunderstood him/her).
but we as the consumer allow them to do this and that .. take EA they have spun out crap games for nearly 10 years now the consumer keeps throwing cash at them .. if as a community we stopped buying ridiculous 3000 crown name changes and other things !! they would have to rethink there bussiness practices same thing could be said about there nearly month of issues bugs and other things wrong in the game that they didnt fix for ages !! would charge a sub for that BAH no one would pay hence why its b2p/ f2p.. the community is always to blame if we all throw money at them!! They know full well like WOW and other mmos 1million ppl tell them to stick it up ther arse 1.5 mill with some cleaver marketing will throw money at them!!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!
Either way I disagree with the suggestion from Tandor that the community is to blame itself for ZOS' business practices (unless I misunderstood him/her).
You do indeed misunderstand me (and I am male). My comment was not in relation to ESO which is BTP, it was in relation to the comment I quoted and which was about F2P in the genre generally.
As for ESO, I don't buy into the argument that the game was (a) completely broken and (b) failing commercially when it was subscription only. I saw no evidence of either. There were plenty of PC subscribers and every poll since then showed that a good many of them were still happily subscribing after the change to B2P. It had some issues for some but not all the players certainly, as all new titles do but as is so often the case on forums the doomsday scenario was way over the top (as it was when they announced the B2P change and then again at regular intervals ever since including the latest claim along the lines that the high price for name changes is a last desperate cash grab before they close the game down etc).
I think it more likely, however, that the reason it went B2P was because of the impending console launch and the fact that console gamers already have to pay a monthly fee for the gaming service and were thought unlikely to pay a game subscription on top of that. It would be normal with such a massive launch as was involved with the console version for a company to do some focus group research and that may well be what led them to that view, and would also explain their reference in ESO Live etc to the change being in response to feedback.Edited by Tandor on August 19, 2016 3:27PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »race change is $31aud .. current price of 3000 crowns in the aud psn store thats ridiculous thats 1/3 a full game ( given most games in AUS are $80-$90.. hell even FFXVI ARR race change is only 20 or less based on euro conversion to AUD .. ZOS really trying to rip money off there players must be losing subs due to there unfixed issues .. NEED TO COVER THE COST!!
As I mentioned earlier, buy Crowns when they're on sale and everything in Crown Store is then 40% off.
It's still too expensive is our point
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snakester320✭✭✭✭its deff a cash grab thats for sure!! how can you warrant 3000 crowns for a race change when whats dark brotherhood dlc 2500.. is it because the game is fading to death I doubt it ppl still throwing money at eso!! but IT IS a crazy huge cash grab off a new feature that clearly has been priced way to high and just to make money off players ,, some one else in the thread stated why could it not have been a limit say 3 months and 1500 crowns for a race change 500 for name and still a 3 month cooldown stop scum scammers from ripping ppl off and disappering!! maybe because once again its a cash grab and a rude one at that!!0
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✭✭✭✭✭The other obvious thing is why can I change everything except my name for 1k in crowns-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭katiesmith12341 wrote: »
I came to the conclusion that the high price is to stop people from abusing this feature - some people are just jerks and choose inappropriate names and some are freaks, which could use that to harass and pester other players. In such cases GM intervention is required and wherever staff is involved this drives costs higher - I still think the price is unreasonable, but it could not be cheap by these reasons as well.
Simple solution, limit the amount of times you cn change it in a certain period of time. EZ PZ lemon squeezy. ^^1 -
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✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »race change is $31aud .. current price of 3000 crowns in the aud psn store thats ridiculous thats 1/3 a full game ( given most games in AUS are $80-$90.. hell even FFXVI ARR race change is only 20 or less based on euro conversion to AUD .. ZOS really trying to rip money off there players must be losing subs due to there unfixed issues .. NEED TO COVER THE COST!!
Yeah, even SWTOR doesnt charge that much....and they are the king and queens of price gauging.2 -
Conquistador✭✭✭✭✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Name changes are simply a case in point.
They can't make money though if no one buys them because they are disgustingly too expensive in the first place.3 -
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✭✭✭snakester320 wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!
Squaresoft shut down the game though for a year and relaunched it after revamping the smurf out FF14.
Honestly that is what ZoS should hae done.0 -
wolfydog✭✭✭The only defense of the price points ZOS really needs is it is line with other MMO's. Generally business's price similar to other business in their industry.
Since ZOS does have crown sales, if you find it to expensive you could always wait till ZOS has crowns on sale, like they were last week, and/or maybe the actual changes themselves will go on sale one day like other items have in the shop.
Plus in general ZOS crown store is very generous and probably the cheapest of all the MMO's I have played with cash shops. Besides the hero outfits or the special limited time mounts, everything is very reasonable. And even those hero outfits and mounts are still $5 cheaper then outfits in other games.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Conquistador wrote: »
If that was the case then they'd lower the price, wouldn't they?Edited by Tandor on August 19, 2016 4:00PM1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭Conquistador wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Name changes are simply a case in point.
They can't make money though if no one buys them because they are disgustingly too expensive in the first place.snakester320 wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »If the game was still sub based good possibility serves would be a bit cheaper, this is the price we pay for not having a sub based game any longer, just like those so called free to play games if you want any kind of game experience you will pay far more than 14.99 a month, f2p biggest lie ever sold to gamers, buy to play is a little better but when it comes to somethings, since it is a source of revenue things will not be that cheap.
I think you mean "demanded by" gamers - basically, they didn't want to pay a sub and thought they should be able to play their favourite games for nothing. The push for F2P came from the players, not the developers who still had to make enough revenue to keep the games (and their businesses) afloat.
Some developers - including ZOS - make a pretty good job of restricting cash shop items to things absolutely no-one needs to buy, while charging enough to produce a decent revenue from those who want to buy. Name changes are simply a case in point.
I've seen a lot of demands on this forum towards ZOS and none of them succesful, so I have a hard time believing it was player demands that prompted ZOS to change business model.
It was either that their revenue was below expectation and they needed immediate cash flow, or that they expected B2P would net them more revenue long term (and they would be right) or because they wanted to avoid having a subfee because of the impending console launch (as consoles afaik already ask a subfee for general online services).
Lets remeber WHY they avoided a sub fee for consoles beacuse the game was BROKEN and NO ONE would in there right mind pay them sub for it way back in pc days long before consoles and they werent going to charge a fee just for consoles... FFXIV ARR has had a sub from day 1 and thats on both PC and PS4 and you can play with PC players on the PS4!! ZOS will change there bussiness model if there bussiness is going to die other wise they wont have one !!!
Squaresoft shut down the game though for a year and relaunched it after revamping the smurf out FF14.
Honestly that is what ZoS should hae done.
I never player the actual ff14 dont have a pc .. was thrilled when FFXVI ARR was going to be released on the ps3 i was in beta phase 3 aswell..now got it on the ps4 and i still sub even though i play eso more atm.. got like 9 houses lmfao and no sub i lose the house after 42 days:( so i need to log in a few times a month go inside the house job done:) but and now how much of a sucess was the re release of FFXIV 6mill subs and going strong.. 1 expan down and more to come next year:)!! by my calculations which im *** at maths they would have to be destroying ZOS for clear profit / money making chargeing 6+ mill players a sub monthly where as i could not see ZOS ( even with there figures of 6mill players) charging all 6 million ppl be lucky to get 1/4 of that0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »snakester320 wrote: »race change is $31aud .. current price of 3000 crowns in the aud psn store thats ridiculous thats 1/3 a full game ( given most games in AUS are $80-$90.. hell even FFXVI ARR race change is only 20 or less based on euro conversion to AUD .. ZOS really trying to rip money off there players must be losing subs due to there unfixed issues .. NEED TO COVER THE COST!!
As I mentioned earlier, buy Crowns when they're on sale and everything in Crown Store is then 40% off.
It's still too expensive is our point
That is your OPINION... but clearly the accountants at ZOS feel differently and THEY know what is selling and what isn't. With the Crown sale Crown discounts, they lower the costs to at or near equivalent of what other MMOs charge for the same things. ESO is not a charity, and all of these things are CONVENIENCE items... if you don't want to use that convenience, then don't buy them, but other people are... I know personally I've bought four Race/Name changes, two Name Changes, and a couple of appearance changes. However, I also stocked up on Crowns during the sale, so the prices aren't so bad using those sale Crowns.CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MornaBaine wrote: »katiesmith12341 wrote: »
I came to the conclusion that the high price is to stop people from abusing this feature - some people are just jerks and choose inappropriate names and some are freaks, which could use that to harass and pester other players. In such cases GM intervention is required and wherever staff is involved this drives costs higher - I still think the price is unreasonable, but it could not be cheap by these reasons as well.
This is negated by the fact that player tags now show though. A player can't go rename his character every week for the purposes of harassing another player because it's now obvious that the player is the same.
If a player chooses an inappropriate name they can get one warning...and if they do it again a ban. Problem solved.
Yes, if ZOS would operate as reason would suggest and their rules intend it - but we have seen, they rarely do - their policies in this regard are nice on paper, but in practice they are meh.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »snakester320 wrote: »race change is $31aud .. current price of 3000 crowns in the aud psn store thats ridiculous thats 1/3 a full game ( given most games in AUS are $80-$90.. hell even FFXVI ARR race change is only 20 or less based on euro conversion to AUD .. ZOS really trying to rip money off there players must be losing subs due to there unfixed issues .. NEED TO COVER THE COST!!
As I mentioned earlier, buy Crowns when they're on sale and everything in Crown Store is then 40% off.
It's still too expensive is our point
That is your OPINION... but clearly the accountants at ZOS feel differently and THEY know what is selling and what isn't. With the Crown sale Crown discounts, they lower the costs to at or near equivalent of what other MMOs charge for the same things. ESO is not a charity, and all of these things are CONVENIENCE items... if you don't want to use that convenience, then don't buy them, but other people are... I know personally I've bought four Race/Name changes, two Name Changes, and a couple of appearance changes. However, I also stocked up on Crowns during the sale, so the prices aren't so bad using those sale Crowns.
Not sure why your response is so aggressive towards me.
It's been made clear in a couple posts that there is a significant amount of the forum community who also agrees that it's overpriced along with many other crown items.
Just because ESO is greedy along with other devs doesn't justify the price.
Wrong is wrong and this price is too high.
Consider what all people already are paying for...and the poor quality and then consider it took over 2 years to offer it.
As others have pointed out....they unbanned a ton of ppl and now roll out name change at real money costs.
Look at the other real money options and how they've be game locking QoL updates behind real money.
If they are going broke then they should focus more on bugs and much larger DLC. We'd pay $39-$49 if each DLC was Orsinium or larger.
But paying the same price as DLC and more for these services is overpriced especially now that DLC is getting smaller and smaller but prices aren't going down.
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Both are changing a few letters in a database... where in RL you didn't choose the name yourself, so figures people might want to change... while in the game you choose the name yourself..
People are going to *** about anything.. 14 quid.. you'll survive.. and if you can't afford it, don't change your name then.. it's only a game, I'm sure you'll survive.
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✭✭✭✭✭What do you think would be a reasonable price? What do other games charge for the same service?
The only comparison I can make is to Guild Wars 2, where it costs £8.50, and that also seems expensive to me. But then I've never actually wanted to change a character's name.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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Garldeen✭✭✭✭katiesmith12341 wrote: »
I came to the conclusion that the high price is to stop people from abusing this feature - some people are just jerks and choose inappropriate names and some are freaks, which could use that to harass and pester other players. In such cases GM intervention is required and wherever staff is involved this drives costs higher - I still think the price is unreasonable, but it could not be cheap by these reasons as well.
Why not make it cheap and limit the change to every 90 days, for example.
Why not choose a proper name at character creation, then you don't need a name change.
Could make the same argument for appearance change too. Ive got no desire to change either name or look but still think its over pricedEdited by Garldeen on August 19, 2016 10:38PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I always love how people say, "it's overpriced"... well then don't buy it! None of what is in the Crown Store is NECESSARY to play the game, and if you cannot afford the Crown Store items, don't blame ZOS... blame YOUR life state. ZOS isn't here to cater to unrealistic players or act like a welfare game, they need to make money to continue the game far into the future, this takes real money, not giving away things so people think they're being treated 'fairly'; life isn't fair. People here literally act like their entitled to discounts and freebies, but you got what you paid for. You bought the base game, and you've received the BASE GAME... if you want something more, then pay for it. If you cannot afford it, then don't buy it, or figure out how you can... like saving for a Crown Sale and buying Crowns then.Edited by ADarklore on August 19, 2016 11:23PMCP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****2 -
KICHZY✭✭✭✭It's a character name...It means nothing! Buy it if it concerns you oh so dearly, otherwise shut up and live with it like you've been doing since 2014 or whenever you started playing.
Prices are symbolic to avoid abuse, That's the reason and has been the case for most MMO's for many many years.Edited by KICHZY on August 19, 2016 11:42PM0 -
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✭✭Changing ones name has no bearing on your characters abilities and does not impact on how well you do in the game, so should not be an expensive thing to do.
Us people who play on PS4 had only ever had our PSN names displayed before DB so what we named our characters was not visible to anyone else at all. Regardless which of my characters I was on, only my PSN name was ever displayed. ESO made a change that now forces our characters names to be displayed, so we should have been given an opportunity to change them without paying through the nose.
Previously when they have changed some of the skills, they introduced cheap or free respec's, when they have changed Champion Points in the past they have reset them so you can reallocate them. All I am asking is that we get the same courtesy since they have changed something that previously had no affect on us.Australian on PS4 NA server.
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fgoron2000✭✭✭✭katiesmith12341 wrote: »
I came to the conclusion that the high price is to stop people from abusing this feature - some people are just jerks and choose inappropriate names and some are freaks, which could use that to harass and pester other players. In such cases GM intervention is required and wherever staff is involved this drives costs higher - I still think the price is unreasonable, but it could not be cheap by these reasons as well.
Why not make it cheap and limit the change to every 90 days, for example.
Why not choose a proper name at character creation, then you don't need a name change.
I agree that a name change should be much cheaper, and I had the same thought about limiting frequency of use, I even had 6 months in mind, to minimize if not eliminate its abuse. Or at the higher price, maybe make a token a one-time use for each char on the account.
Further, there could be a number of reasons that a person wants or needs to change a name after starting play. This is the reason for me. This is the first time that I've played a MMO, and I was completely unaccustomed to working with a group of 8 (now 12) chars all at one time on my account. When I started creating the names, I was disappointed to find that I wasn't able to use either numbers or special characters in the name. Because of that, I ended up using longer, more descriptive names for each char. After playing for a while, I then found that the longer names were a bit cumbersome in some menus, dialogs, addons, and realized only then that I couldn't change the names. Now that I've played some, I have some ideas on how I'd like to reconfigure these names to shorten them, but not at this price...
Now if any of the above would be things that I "should" have known up front, I don't know how I would have before starting to play...but from now on just call me "the sadder but wiser girl" and yeah, I'm a guy...that's just a reference to the musical Music Man...1