Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

Adenoma

Literally nobody has noticed an LoDG presence.

DeadlyRecluse

Everyone nightcaps (at different times), everyone zergs down the map (at different times).

Some people stay on one alliance forever, others move around to stronger or weaker alliances. Whatever.

I, for one, enjoyed last night's PvP.

Stridig

We had a good time on EP last night. Very unorganized but fun nonetheless.

vamp_emily

Vurian97 wrote: »

The LoDG group has avoided playing the map since while we level up our toons. There is no point / need for us to play the map to ensure a DC win for the campaign cycles since DC wins by night-capping / morning-capping, which is depressing.

Anytime we're in Blackwater Blade we spend it focused on AP Farming or playing away from the front lines. Very few times have we helped the main fights and we've received major flack for it too. I find it very silly to think that to ensure we don't play a major role in the "DC Zerg" and constant flipping of the map, we just stay in one spot and we receive major hate for it.

I ask the people to avoid night-capping and it is the same response @Stridig mentioned. People get hateful and justify their actions. I get the purpose of the game is to win the campaign cycles, but you want to keep it competitive and challenging too. You don't want to win by thousands of points, you want to win by hundreds or tens.

I noticed lately you guys normal just stay at Sej and play in BwB. I always wondered why it was blue all the time

Vurian97

vamp_emily wrote: »

Vurian97 wrote: »

The LoDG group has avoided playing the map since while we level up our toons. There is no point / need for us to play the map to ensure a DC win for the campaign cycles since DC wins by night-capping / morning-capping, which is depressing.

Anytime we're in Blackwater Blade we spend it focused on AP Farming or playing away from the front lines. Very few times have we helped the main fights and we've received major flack for it too. I find it very silly to think that to ensure we don't play a major role in the "DC Zerg" and constant flipping of the map, we just stay in one spot and we receive major hate for it.

I ask the people to avoid night-capping and it is the same response @Stridig mentioned. People get hateful and justify their actions. I get the purpose of the game is to win the campaign cycles, but you want to keep it competitive and challenging too. You don't want to win by thousands of points, you want to win by hundreds or tens.

I noticed lately you guys normal just stay at Sej and play in BwB. I always wondered why it was blue all the time

Sejanus is LoDG's house until Homestead offers us a new home.

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

I don't understand why such hate for DC lately.

Keep in mind that I've only played maybe 4 nights during the evening when population was fairly balance. There was some good fights at nik, and ash. I think at least 1 time AD was poplocked. EP was pushing us at bleakers and ales a few times and even took glade when we were fighting at Ash.

Back when AD said they had skills in their poplock, they said they wished AD was the underdog. From the looks on the forum posts, it seems like you got what you wished for, but all I hear is cries.

Is DC poplocked fighting 1 bar AD and 1 bar EP? If so that is not good, that is what ruined my love for PvP when AD did it.

No one is complaining about pop, its totes not about pop, its the gate camping when there are no scrolls and the pvdoor. These are not cries you are hearing, they are warnings, to those who tell their alliance to go f themselves when they are asked not to do such smiley things. Funny thing is this... when AD was doing the same, and they were during the summer, alot of us regulars rolled EP to give those in our alliance a taste of their own medicine.

I believe we, as in all of us in this thread, including you Em, have tried to do our part to keep bwb healthy and competitive. I remember when DC as an alliance left bc of the bs that AD was pulling. It sucked. Dont want to see that happen again, on any faction. No faction should feel pushed out of the campaign they love bc of jerks who like to camp tri keeps.

PS Happy Saturday!

Reverb

Adenoma wrote: »

Literally nobody has noticed an LoDG presence.

True, not since new year's weekend has there been any mention or notice of LoDG in DC chat. I think the current DC zerglings are unaffiliated.

DeadlyRecluse

Reverb wrote: »

Adenoma wrote: »

Literally nobody has noticed an LoDG presence.

True, not since new year's weekend has there been any mention or notice of LoDG in DC chat. I think the current DC zerglings are unaffiliated.

They sure FEEL unaffiliated.

Adenoma

Leading groups as a healer is so much fun. I feel like I kept so many people alive today that should have croaked.

Stridig

This thread got quiet

Swaye

I can't even believe how arrogant you guys are, who made you the protectors of Bwb ? "Balance the campaign" "make it healthy", get over yourselves.

When would you have the Aussies, night workers and insomniacs play? At a time that suits you ? All is good when things are going well for AD.

As for LODG /shrug. I've seen you in my prime time Vurian and as far as we're concerned LODG isn't even a thing.

For all the DC swapping to balance and help the campaign...stay at EP/AD, we don't need you.

Seriously it's just a cycle.

Btw if you continue to camp our tri keeps and gates the regulars on DC that usually condone that sort of behaviour just might take it upon themselves to return the favour.

You've held all of DC accountable for the actions of a few, that's a mistake.

Please enjoy our new DC Emp, Janet.

Mjollo

I don't speak for the others here but I'm not here to protect blackwater blade. I'm like a year and a half over that. I'm just here to mess with DC and put out wild fires before they grow.

As far as night capping goes, who cares. That's not anyone's actual complaint. The real concern is coming back to a map overnight being camped to their gates. It's not a real problem though just an inconvenience. You dont reap the seeds of growing crops. That just makes you a bad farmer.

And lastly, it's not a few DC. It's most DC. And all is good when everything is going well for every faction not one. Fairweathers and alike shift like leaves in the wind depending on the status of bwb so yeah it does matter which faction is lop-sided.

Stridig

Swaye wrote: »

I can't even believe how arrogant you guys are, who made you the protectors of Bwb ? "Balance the campaign" "make it healthy", get over yourselves.

When would you have the Aussies, night workers and insomniacs play? At a time that suits you ? All is good when things are going well for AD.

As for LODG /shrug. I've seen you in my prime time Vurian and as far as we're concerned LODG isn't even a thing.

For all the DC swapping to balance and help the campaign...stay at EP/AD, we don't need you.

Seriously it's just a cycle.

Btw if you continue to camp our tri keeps and gates the regulars on DC that usually condone that sort of behaviour just might take it upon themselves to return the favour.

You've held all of DC accountable for the actions of a few, that's a mistake.

Please enjoy our new DC Emp, Janet.

Wait..... did you actually un-friend me in game over this? Lol. And we are arrogant. And we need to get over ourselves? Excuse me for playing on EP for a total of 6 hours this weekend. Lol . That's fine really. I'm bored of defending Fare. I bored of defending Arrius. And I'm tired of my own faction telling me to **** off when I ask why are the defending tri keeps. Actions of a few? That's BS and anybody who is honest knows it. I just can't understand the whole unfriended me thing though. I was cool as DC but since I have taken a DC break this campaign (for a very limited amount of time) Im no longer worthy. Ok. I will work on both my arrogance and getting over myself.

P.S
That hurts my feelings
Also: I was informed Raknosh was unfriended by a few people too. Really? That's how he gets treated after leading DC for a year? For a few hours of playing on EP? He created one of the strongest and most consistent guilds in BWB and gets treated poorly. Wow DC. That's all I can say is Wow.

Adenoma

I am sad for stridig.

vamp_emily

The real problem is Zeni. I wish they would find a solution without letting players trying to fix it. Everyone talking about flipping sides is just going to mess everything up.

Next week it will be 3 DC against 50-AD and then AD saying they got skills.

pfft.

Adenoma

The argument was never that AD had skills, it was that ad had coordination. I would still posit that ad has by fair margin the worst average player and D.C. The best. While iote was in the campaign, nobody will argue that ad had population advantage but I still believe that they were far better organized than other alliances.

Valen_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

The real problem is Zeni. I wish they would find a solution without letting players trying to fix it. Everyone talking about flipping sides is just going to mess everything up.

Next week it will be 3 DC against 50-AD and then AD saying they got skills.

pfft.

Ffs, you were doing just fine till you had to try and jab ad. Should have stopped with the first sentence.

vamp_emily

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Ffs, you were doing just fine till you had to try and jab ad. Should have stopped with the first sentence.

I only tell the truth as I see it, unlike you I admit when i am wrong. Maybe you should have just stopped before replying to me.

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

The argument was never that AD had skills, it was that ad had coordination. I would still posit that ad has by fair margin the worst average player and D.C. The best. While iote was in the campaign, nobody will argue that ad had population advantage but I still believe that they were far better organized than other alliances.

What were you guys coordinating back then? Which side to send 50 AD to kill the 3 DC that took a resource.. pfft.

Pugz had the best coordination until we folded to overwhelming number of players. Rak moved the map. He pushed his guild and pugs would follow most things he asked them to do.

The only thing AD has as far as coordination is the wedding dressers, other than that they are weak.

Valen_Byte

@vamp_emily You mad? This mornings dethrone brought to you by BYTE. and assorted AD. : ))

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only thing AD has as far as coordination is the wedding dressers, other than that they are weak.

PFFT

You have NO idea what you are even talking about so stop.

Just_call_me_Cola

I think we need a cumbaia circle. Everyone gather round

Mjollo

All of this yellow and blue talk tho. My hope is for EP to one day stop picking their noses and come back to former glory. ;-;

Stridig

The only thing AD has as far as coordination is the wedding dressers, other than that they are weak.
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Wait.... let's talk about this coordination from the " wedding dressers". I have a little experience here.
Here is a basic tower farm:

Adenoma- How come nobody is running this siege? COLA?
Cola- I can't. I'm playing Overwatch. I'm just trolling TS.
Nurse Joy- Wait.... did you want me to heal?
Vic Rattlehead- (Presumably AFK because he says nothing)
Stridig- Crap. I just fell.
Adenoma- Deadly.... jump on that siege.
Nurse Joy- Deadly isn't in group
Adenoma- Those DK changes though....
Stridig- Crap.... I just fell again

And so on and so forth. Talk about coordination.

Mjollo

disorganization is the secret to coordination

TipsyDrow

Just_call_me_Cola wrote: »

I think we need a cumbaia circle. Everyone gather round

Don't touch me.....bishh.
Unless you're paying me that is.

TipsyDrow

Stridig wrote: »

The only thing AD has as far as coordination is the wedding dressers, other than that they are weak.

Wait.... let's talk about this coordination from the " wedding dressers". I have a little experience here.
Here is a basic tower farm:

Adenoma- How come nobody is running this siege? COLA?
Cola- I can't. I'm playing Overwatch. I'm just trolling TS.
Nurse Joy- Wait.... did you want me to heal?
Vic Rattlehead- (Presumably AFK because he says nothing)
Stridig- Crap. I just fell.
Adenoma- Deadly.... jump on that siege.
Nurse Joy- Deadly isn't in group
Adenoma- Those DK changes though....
Stridig- Crap.... I just fell again

And so on and so forth. Talk about coordination. [/quote]

men.....

Mjollo

TipsyDrow wrote: »

men.....

did you just assume their genders. it's 2017.

ColoursYouHave

vamp_emily wrote: »

The real problem is Zeni. I wish they would find a solution without letting players trying to fix it. Everyone talking about flipping sides is just going to mess everything up.

Next week it will be 3 DC against 50-AD and then AD saying they got skills.

pfft.

You just can't resist the urge to bash AD, can you? AD pugs are gate camping DC? You bash AD. DC pugs are gate camping AD? You bash AD. Campaign is balanced and everybody is happy? You bash AD. How come when all the other DC players here are condemning DC's behavior, you're still trying to find ways to bash AD? Where does this hatred come from? There are obviously reasons to be critical of AD, just as there are reasons to be critical of DC, but to try to bash AD and blame them over every single thing, including when they are the ones being gate camped, is just unreasonable. If you're able to admit you're wrong like you say you are, you should be able to admit that its ridiculous to think that AD is the only alliance to ever do anything wrong.

Swaye wrote: »

I can't even believe how arrogant you guys are, who made you the protectors of Bwb ? "Balance the campaign" "make it healthy", get over yourselves.

When would you have the Aussies, night workers and insomniacs play? At a time that suits you ? All is good when things are going well for AD.

As for LODG /shrug. I've seen you in my prime time Vurian and as far as we're concerned LODG isn't even a thing.

For all the DC swapping to balance and help the campaign...stay at EP/AD, we don't need you.

Seriously it's just a cycle.

Btw if you continue to camp our tri keeps and gates the regulars on DC that usually condone that sort of behaviour just might take it upon themselves to return the favour.

You've held all of DC accountable for the actions of a few, that's a mistake.

Please enjoy our new DC Emp, Janet.

All is not well when things are going well for AD. Back a couple months ago when AD was pushing DC to their gates and keeping them there every night, nearly every AD poster here condemned that behavior. It got to a point where multiple AD stopped playing BWB altogether, or started playing on another alliance. I personally even have a DC character leveled and ready to go for when that starts to happen again. That being said, if AD is indeed camping your gate keeps (haven't played much lately, so I haven't been able to see for myself), I definitely think they should stop doing so, even if it is only in retaliation for DC doing the same, as all it does is perpetuate a cycle of both alliances doing the same to each other, which isn't fun for anybody.

And yes, most of us here do want the campaign to be balanced and healthy, because there is no fun in winning when you outnumber your opponents 5 to 1. Its why people don't like it when any alliance holds another alliance to their gate keeps.

Valen_Byte

To be perfectly clear. AD has not been gate camping without scrolls in the temples. Yes we pushed to the gates and stayed there. We were going after the scrolls. We didnt get them. Cannot say the same for the recent DC tri-keep camping emp(s).