HOW TO CORRECTLY COUNTER RADIANT DESTRUCTION

genjutsu_kami

Well its been a very frustrating day indeed discussing the issues with radiant destruction.... but i think i have found a way to finally counter it and its something everyone can do.

Firstly id like to address some of you that play MAGIKA TEMPLAR... were not trying to destroy your class or make it weaker..... all we are trying to do is shed some light on some abilities that look and feel like they are over performing.... look its not like there is one thread about RD.... there are hundreds... now that screams PROBLEM!

The range is ridiculous and the damage it does really does stack with buff abilities and CP (champion point) to a point where you could legitimately spam it at someone with full health, not to mention the damage scales at 50% health..... there is many more points to address

I find it difficult that people that play the class don't at least be honest and say .... look that is an issue. (not all are like that some who play it are actually honest)

Night blade players for goodness sake are more realistic and admit to the questionable mechanics of their class and when they did that they were tweaked ever so slightly..... and i thought they were delusional but it seems they are not that delusional.

It really does baffle ones mind.

so alternatively instead of getting frustrated with some of your comments i put some of that frustration into this video


This is what happens when you don't listen @wrobel

The good men turn ....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b1CSsyrYnc


all your answers to RADIANT DESTRUCTION ARE ANSWERED IN THIS VIDEO

Waffennacht

I watched for 1 min.

No @$!# they're gonna spam RD in a group, I spam Wrath in a group too! It's how you get AP.

Your buds are gonna do the bulk of the damage, if you spam your execute, they will put that player in range, and you will execute them (also dealing enough dmg to guarantee AP)

I've said it before, group play is no way to judge builds.

Now if you were to face someone 1v1 and from full health they spammed RD and you died within secs THEN I said we have a problem. But as is, (and Again I did not watch the entire vid so maybe something happens later on...) I can't say this is evidence of anything other than that players in a group do the easy thing to get AP

genjutsu_kami

Waffennacht wrote: »

I watched for 1 min.

No @$!# they're gonna spam RD in a group, I spam Wrath in a group too! It's how you get AP.

Your buds are gonna do the bulk of the damage, if you spam your execute, they will put that player in range, and you will execute them (also dealing enough dmg to guarantee AP)

I've said it before, group play is no way to judge builds.

Now if you were to face someone 1v1 and from full health they spammed RD and you died within secs THEN I said we have a problem. But as is, (and Again I did not watch the entire vid so maybe something happens later on...) I can't say this is evidence of anything other than that players in a group do the easy thing to get AP

oh theres more... more to to truly see....what happens to good men who live by honour but tired of the Rd and turn into .......zergglings

Izaki

Okay the video is pretty funny, but you should stop now...

Hempyre

I've reported the OP for forum spam as this is his 4th open thread on this topic. I recommend others do the same.

Forestd16b14_ESO

So suggestion to make the skill last 5 seconds instead of 3 and no other changes at all to the skill is still just a crack pot idea.

genjutsu_kami

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Okay the video is pretty funny, but you should stop now...

I've done my part now ...... i have retired for the day...... but the fight to bring balance to this skill will live on. but i will stop it for today...

genjutsu_kami

Hempyre wrote: »

I've reported the OP for forum spam as this is his 4th open thread on this topic. I recommend others do the same.

is that frustration i sense..... well you have at least felt the despair of those who know this skill is over performing and needs to be addressed....

Izaki

genjutsu_kami wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Okay the video is pretty funny, but you should stop now...

I've done my part now ...... i have retired for the day...... but the fight to bring balance to this skill will live on. but i will stop it for today...

Its fine! That skill is fine! An execute is supposed to execute. The problem is not the skill itself its the way people use it. Any why shouldn't they use it like they do if it works?

Hempyre

Nope, just sick of you over posting your lies. I don't think anything you do at all will have an impact on this skill, i think you have a *** build and your throwing a tantrum. Id prefer you do it in your room not on the forums. 4 open posts, several in one day. You're being *** retar-ded.

genjutsu_kami

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

genjutsu_kami wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Okay the video is pretty funny, but you should stop now...

I've done my part now ...... i have retired for the day...... but the fight to bring balance to this skill will live on. but i will stop it for today...

Its fine! That skill is fine! An execute is supposed to execute. The problem is not the skill itself its the way people use it. Any why shouldn't they use it like they do if it works?

there are a lot of issues.

its fine to be an execute, although the damage potential starts at 50% health not 25% like all executes should be.

it can literally do more than significant damage to someone at full health.

the range on it is baffling, the distance is to much

when you get hit by it even when you line of sight it still stacks all the damage and you take all of it even in positions of line of sight so theres a lack of consistency there. this includes moving behind objects to block line of sight of the beam.

and you can not role doge the beam.... one would presume if a beam is coming at you from 30 yards and you have the power to dodge it...... you would and you should but the mechanics work as it it had a heat tracking system on the beam.....absoluetly baffling.

genjutsu_kami

Hempyre wrote: »

Nope, just sick of you over posting your lies. I don't think anything you do at all will have an impact on this skill, i think you have a *** build and your throwing a tantrum. Id prefer you do it in your room not on the forums. 4 open posts, several in one day. You're being *** retar-ded.

indeed i sense frustration in you.... yes let it flow.... maybe now we can understand each other and discuss appropriately what we can do to rally up the community to shed light on the ability.

WreckfulAbandon

What's baffling is Stamina builds complaining about anything.

If you don't like it then switch to magicka like all the 1vXers

SleepyTroll

I don't even know what to say anymore.

genjutsu_kami

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

What's baffling is Stamina builds complaining about anything.

If you don't like it then switch to magicka like all the 1vXers

noo don't be silly stamina builds 1vX too....

its just really obnoxious and seemingly over performing

ok.... remember when stam builds could roll dodge without being penalised.... and now it takes more and more stamina overtime you do a dodge roll.....

or SORCS streaking around the place none stop, but the cost of streaking increases with each one increases...

moral of the story is some abilities in this game outshine in obnoxious ways then other abilities, and often people will abuse this and make the PVP community a little flustered at the fact it has been neglected and not seriously addressed... Thats how RD feels right now

genjutsu_kami

SleepyTroll wrote: »

I don't even know what to say anymore.

ahhh is that frustration i sense ... yes let it flow.

let us come to a mutual understanding that this ability is problematic in the PVP community and it needs to be addressed because the community are finding it troubling and rather problematic on a balance basis of course

DocFrost72

How to counter Radiant Destruction: Make a forum post?

Misleading topic bro. Here's some help!

Healing keeps you out of execute range, and this skill sucks anywhere above there.

If you're 22 meters or closer, gap close the mofo and bash. If you're 23 meters or farther away, take a few steps back.

Wards block crits, and everyone has wards.

Venom arrow and crushing shock do less damage than their morphs, but they are better for a lot of different situations (stop a res at 30 meters? Sign me up...)

Line of sight works to cut the beam off, if my time using it is any indication.

Any attack that lands 3, 4, 5 of at once or while you're taking major damage from a couple people will kill you.

Balance talk; want it to be dodgeable? Let's talk about getting rid of the medium armor active for something that gives minor weapon and spell damage to the group or something. then I'll let you dodge to your heart's content. Timing dodges is skill, passive chance is lame.

genjutsu_kami

DocFrost72 wrote: »

How to counter Radiant Destruction: Make a forum post?

Misleading topic bro. Here's some help!

Healing keeps you out of execute range, and this skill sucks anywhere above there.

If you're 22 meters or closer, gap close the mofo and bash. If you're 23 meters or farther away, take a few steps back.

Wards block crits, and everyone has wards.

Venom arrow and crushing shock do less damage than their morphs, but they are better for a lot of different situations (stop a res at 30 meters? Sign me up...)

Line of sight works to cut the beam off, if my time using it is any indication.

Any attack that lands 3, 4, 5 of at once or while you're taking major damage from a couple people will kill you.

Balance talk; want it to be dodgeable? Let's talk about getting rid of the medium armor active for something that gives minor weapon and spell damage to the group or something. then I'll let you dodge to your heart's content. Timing dodges is skill, passive chance is lame.

while your ideas are insightful and misleading to the actual reality of countering RD in combat situations i have actually found a thread that has a reasonable solution to RD

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/284002/a-simple-fix-to-radiant-destruction#latest

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