Calling All Non-DC - HADERUS

NACtron

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

1. We were in IC during the time of the Dethrone. IC is where a lot of good PvP can be found right now. We did however feel that someone else having a turn at emp was fair
2. The EP guild not pushing or helping EMP tonight was Pact Militia. We choose not to help cause after holding it for 3 days we figured giving someone else a turn is called for. The next in line was someone who has worked closely with several EP guilds (but not a member of PM) and has spent countless hours organizing ep potatoes to do something useful. I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.
3.The guy who was emp spent several hours grinding AP up until the last moment when we flipped Alessia and he instantly bounced 7k AP on the leaderboard and managed to snipe emp. No doubt for Salt infused reasons. Rather despicable I think.

Elong

Apparently the guy who jumped 7k on the leaderboard to first place "hacks", "cheats", "is getting fed" and "is an ***". According to his fellow EP players.

You couldn't make it up.

TooskSG

Elong wrote: »

Apparently the guy who jumped 7k on the leaderboard to first place "hacks", "cheats", "is getting fed" and "is an ***". According to his fellow EP players.

You couldn't make it up.

Should buy him a beer for triggering PM imo

Elong

TooskSG wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Apparently the guy who jumped 7k on the leaderboard to first place "hacks", "cheats", "is getting fed" and "is an ***". According to his fellow EP players.

You couldn't make it up.

Should buy him a beer for triggering PM imo

I've been a big fan of Pact and other guilds working together over the last couple of months, but the conspiracy theories produced by carebears like Earthewen and the like have led me to shake my head and seriously consider rerolling.

God_flakes

NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Oh i would love to see what Jules and Qaevir have to say now. "Dc zergs are out of control"

Where are the dc zers now? Please screen capture them for me.

First you need to learn that Jules is a low level anti-zerg Troll and then there is the big question of where is the DC zerg?

The only faction giving EP any feeling of competition is AD right now. I was under the impression that haddy had a overly large DC population. What happened?

Low level, yes. Anti-zerg? Just please. She had her self neck deep in the IR/Havoc/Vehemence zerg of TB days. She can zerg with the worst of 'em when it suits.

donJay

Blacksheepart wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

DC zergs are out of control. I tried to escape to the sewers for a bit but saw Ali Sabre running a 10-15 man group in there. Well, back to TF. You know when hes zerging, theres too many DC. I dont know why you guys dont like playing againts more equal numbers in TF

Mhm, a 3 man and we often run 3-4 man - I really should post those videos sometime. Sabre is a good player, that I know for a fact doesn't run large groups; and you can farm the hoards of reds that zerg the sewers, I actually think they're a guild because I see the same names over and over. It sounds to me like someone got pawned and wants to cry about it.


Oh not to mention the night capping red does, or the fact that HAD has a red emp atm... so what were you saying?

Ok man. I respect Ali Sabre as a solo player as well, but he chased me with his zerg from keep to keep. I repeat, he chased a solo player with a large group from keep to keep. That's all I'm saying. Keep defending him all you want.

God_flakes

donJay wrote: »

Blacksheepart wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

DC zergs are out of control. I tried to escape to the sewers for a bit but saw Ali Sabre running a 10-15 man group in there. Well, back to TF. You know when hes zerging, theres too many DC. I dont know why you guys dont like playing againts more equal numbers in TF

Mhm, a 3 man and we often run 3-4 man - I really should post those videos sometime. Sabre is a good player, that I know for a fact doesn't run large groups; and you can farm the hoards of reds that zerg the sewers, I actually think they're a guild because I see the same names over and over. It sounds to me like someone got pawned and wants to cry about it.


Oh not to mention the night capping red does, or the fact that HAD has a red emp atm... so what were you saying?

Ok man. I respect Ali Sabre as a solo player as well, but he chased me with his zerg from keep to keep. I repeat, he chased a solo player with a large group from keep to keep. That's all I'm saying. Keep defending him all you want.

Just means they really wanted your booty. Large groups do it to me allllllll the time. Revel in the notoriety.

NACtron

Elong wrote: »

Apparently the guy who jumped 7k on the leaderboard to first place "hacks", "cheats", "is getting fed" and "is an ***". According to his fellow EP players.

You couldn't make it up.

Sometimes people get angry in the moment and say and do things that are obviously a over reaction and are un-called for.

We were trying to help a friend get emp for most of the night and someone who already had it for several days passed her on the leaderboards at the last second. Of course some of us got a little bit salty cause of that.

Anazasi

God_flakes wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Oh i would love to see what Jules and Qaevir have to say now. "Dc zergs are out of control"

Where are the dc zers now? Please screen capture them for me.

First you need to learn that Jules is a low level anti-zerg Troll and then there is the big question of where is the DC zerg?

The only faction giving EP any feeling of competition is AD right now. I was under the impression that haddy had a overly large DC population. What happened?

Low level, yes. Anti-zerg? Just please. She had her self neck deep in the IR/Havoc/Vehemence zerg of TB days. She can zerg with the worst of 'em when it suits.

They moved to TF

God_flakes

Anazasi wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Oh i would love to see what Jules and Qaevir have to say now. "Dc zergs are out of control"

Where are the dc zers now? Please screen capture them for me.

First you need to learn that Jules is a low level anti-zerg Troll and then there is the big question of where is the DC zerg?

The only faction giving EP any feeling of competition is AD right now. I was under the impression that haddy had a overly large DC population. What happened?

Low level, yes. Anti-zerg? Just please. She had her self neck deep in the IR/Havoc/Vehemence zerg of TB days. She can zerg with the worst of 'em when it suits.

They moved to TF

Who did?

BFT88

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Rather despicable I think.

But zerging down the DC population of 10 whole players with 2 pact militia zergs isn't "despicable?"

I lol'd

FENGRUSH

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.

If youre zerg surfing on EP wouldnt this be considered pact militia surfing?

NACtron

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.

If youre zerg surfing on EP wouldnt this be considered pact militia surfing?

Believe it or not zerg serfers tick off the zergs just as much as anyone else. If not for any other reason other than a lot of them tend to feel like they don't need to keep their buffs up cause they have a large group around them. Then they trigger Vicious death for the rest of us when a bomber shows up.

DocFrost72

NACtron wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.

If youre zerg surfing on EP wouldnt this be considered pact militia surfing?

Believe it or not zerg serfers tick off the zergs just as much as anyone else. If not for any other reason other than a lot of them tend to feel like they don't need to keep their buffs up cause they have a large group around them. Then they trigger Vicious death for the rest of us when a bomber shows up.

You're only as strong as your weakest link anyway, which is why most players should take the time to better themselves without relying on a group, a healer, or sturdy tanks up front CCing everything.

NACtron

DocFrost72 wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.

If youre zerg surfing on EP wouldnt this be considered pact militia surfing?

Believe it or not zerg serfers tick off the zergs just as much as anyone else. If not for any other reason other than a lot of them tend to feel like they don't need to keep their buffs up cause they have a large group around them. Then they trigger Vicious death for the rest of us when a bomber shows up.

You're only as strong as your weakest link anyway, which is why most players should take the time to better themselves without relying on a group, a healer, or sturdy tanks up front CCing everything.

Totally agree. You learn a lot by running solo for a bit and seeing how you fare without support.

lygerseye

NACtron wrote: »

Believe it or not zerg serfers tick off the zergs just as much as anyone else. If not for any other reason other than a lot of them tend to feel like they don't need to keep their buffs up cause they have a large group around them. Then they trigger Vicious death for the rest of us when a bomber shows up.

And casting while in stealth, and taking resource flags when we want to siege the tower, and leaching off our AP...

Magus

NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Oh i would love to see what Jules and Qaevir have to say now. "Dc zergs are out of control"

Where are the dc zers now? Please screen capture them for me.

First you need to learn that Jules is a low level anti-zerg Troll and then there is the big question of where is the DC zerg?

The only faction giving EP any feeling of competition is AD right now. I was under the impression that haddy had a overly large DC population. What happened?

Before the cycle reset, most of DC had already left Haderus before the 60 man EP blob came - a lot went to Azuras. Most DC groups that played on haderus were small man groups. There was a decent sized EP population before the TF EP came over. There was however a distinct lack of AD. The DC population of haderus was a more traditional zerg with a lot of separate small man groups not working together, uncoordinated, no interest in sieging or taking keeps.

So, to recap, most of DC left haderus for more fights. The ones who stayed were small groups who were uncoordinated. This Rickter guy posted to forums about how bored he was when he came with a medium to large group twice a week. Then a 60+ man EP blob with 2-3 raids stacked on each other in the same TS came and said where is the DC zerg. They were gone before you even came.

Skitttles

Elong wrote: »

TooskSG wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Apparently the guy who jumped 7k on the leaderboard to first place "hacks", "cheats", "is getting fed" and "is an ***". According to his fellow EP players.

You couldn't make it up.

Should buy him a beer for triggering PM imo

I've been a big fan of Pact and other guilds working together over the last couple of months, but the conspiracy theories produced by carebears like Earthewen and the like have led me to shake my head and seriously consider rerolling.

ayy come over to the blueberries

Celas_Dranacea

I'm sure I speak for other COH members when I say that we do miss our allies on TF - fight the good fight over there! We're on Had doing Lord Hircine's work the best we can.

I'm also glad that Fantasia decided to move, at least for awhile. I'm thankful for the AD solo players I've seen skillfully engaging the enemy. Thank you also to any other AD guilds I don't yet know about that may be around haderus.

I personally don't mind being on a server where AD is an underdog for awhile. It's pretty fun so far.

The biggest problem I see - as others have noted - is that the Blues seem to be missing. I'd really like to see some strong blue guilds to fight against. We could use a handful more AD as well.

Until then, it's kind of fun imagining yourself to be a guerilla fighter defending your homeland against the ungodly EP hordes. No offense to PM or any other enemy players - you guys are just doing what you do.

Red has numbers on us for now but I believe after some time we can begin to change the balance / culture in Haderus if we are persistent and guilds continue to try and move to where they are needed.

asneakybanana

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

1. We were in IC during the time of the Dethrone. IC is where a lot of good PvP can be found right now. We did however feel that someone else having a turn at emp was fair
2. The EP guild not pushing or helping EMP tonight was Pact Militia. We choose not to help cause after holding it for 3 days we figured giving someone else a turn is called for. The next in line was someone who has worked closely with several EP guilds (but not a member of PM) and has spent countless hours organizing ep potatoes to do something useful. I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.
3.The guy who was emp spent several hours grinding AP up until the last moment when we flipped Alessia and he instantly bounced 7k AP on the leaderboard and managed to snipe emp. No doubt for Salt infused reasons. Rather despicable I think.

Sounds like you got some drama over there on haderus nikolai. Should probably just come over to drama-free TF and show the AD and DC who's boss.

God_flakes

asneakybanana wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

1. We were in IC during the time of the Dethrone. IC is where a lot of good PvP can be found right now. We did however feel that someone else having a turn at emp was fair
2. The EP guild not pushing or helping EMP tonight was Pact Militia. We choose not to help cause after holding it for 3 days we figured giving someone else a turn is called for. The next in line was someone who has worked closely with several EP guilds (but not a member of PM) and has spent countless hours organizing ep potatoes to do something useful. I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.
3.The guy who was emp spent several hours grinding AP up until the last moment when we flipped Alessia and he instantly bounced 7k AP on the leaderboard and managed to snipe emp. No doubt for Salt infused reasons. Rather despicable I think.

Sounds like you got some drama over there on haderus nikolai. Should probably just come over to drama-free TF and show the AD and DC who's boss.

Is your crew tired of dying because you can't prop yourselves up behind their wave?

Telel

Sadly unless something shifts drastically in the pop balance by Thursday Telel will likely be preparing their pups to move back to True Flame.

It's not that we're not having fun and can't hold our own though. It's because there's no sport in it if in the end there's no chance at pulling out a win, or even coming close to it.

Of course considering the previous reason for this one and their pack leaving Haderus Telel can not help but be somewhat amused.

NACtron

God_flakes wrote: »

asneakybanana wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

1. We were in IC during the time of the Dethrone. IC is where a lot of good PvP can be found right now. We did however feel that someone else having a turn at emp was fair
2. The EP guild not pushing or helping EMP tonight was Pact Militia. We choose not to help cause after holding it for 3 days we figured giving someone else a turn is called for. The next in line was someone who has worked closely with several EP guilds (but not a member of PM) and has spent countless hours organizing ep potatoes to do something useful. I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.
3.The guy who was emp spent several hours grinding AP up until the last moment when we flipped Alessia and he instantly bounced 7k AP on the leaderboard and managed to snipe emp. No doubt for Salt infused reasons. Rather despicable I think.

Sounds like you got some drama over there on haderus nikolai. Should probably just come over to drama-free TF and show the AD and DC who's boss.

Is your crew tired of dying because you can't prop yourselves up behind their wave?

I actually guested over to TF today and EP is doing very well on their own without their zerg guild Haxus and Incvitus are OP

asneakybanana

God_flakes wrote: »

asneakybanana wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

@Telel I was sneaking around on my AD toon doing skyshards and lorebooks tonight. I was going to send you coldharbour siege as a thank you for showing up to help with this nasty red infection, but thought that might seem creepy from someone who has been playing EP lately.

Logged into EP later to help defend emp. I'm sorry to say that when Orcish was dethroned - mostly because the last keep emp defense was a tiny emp group and a passel of brave PUGs while our new infestation from TF sat out the fight - there were EP celebrating in chat. I can only assume they wanted to zerg the map in the wee hours and crown an emp in their guild.

Celebrating in zone chat that your faction emp was dethroned, someone who never talks *** in zone chat or puts anyone down, is unadulterated garbage. Shameful. Despicable. If those multiple syllable words are unclear: you suck. And you know who you are.

1. We were in IC during the time of the Dethrone. IC is where a lot of good PvP can be found right now. We did however feel that someone else having a turn at emp was fair
2. The EP guild not pushing or helping EMP tonight was Pact Militia. We choose not to help cause after holding it for 3 days we figured giving someone else a turn is called for. The next in line was someone who has worked closely with several EP guilds (but not a member of PM) and has spent countless hours organizing ep potatoes to do something useful. I think she deserves a chance to have emp. More so than anyone who only ganks and/or zerg serfs.
3.The guy who was emp spent several hours grinding AP up until the last moment when we flipped Alessia and he instantly bounced 7k AP on the leaderboard and managed to snipe emp. No doubt for Salt infused reasons. Rather despicable I think.

Sounds like you got some drama over there on haderus nikolai. Should probably just come over to drama-free TF and show the AD and DC who's boss.

Is your crew tired of dying because you can't prop yourselves up behind their wave?

Lol on the contrary when we have groups going we have been putting in work. However, we only have groups going around prime time so we cant really get much done with the typical 1 or 2 people we have online. The distinct lack of a queue has been amazing though

KenaPKK

rhapsodious wrote: »

Ugh, as an EP I really don't like the state of the map right now. It's no fun PvDooring, and it makes DC and AD hate us.

Hopefully the map will even out in a few hours, but I really don't know.

Does this imply that you do it?

rhapsodious

KenaPKK wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

Ugh, as an EP I really don't like the state of the map right now. It's no fun PvDooring, and it makes DC and AD hate us.

Hopefully the map will even out in a few hours, but I really don't know.

Does this imply that you do it?

No, I don't, and never have. I mostly run around doing my own thing or defend keeps. Or cry because Molag Bal refuses to give me my *** skin.

It's just that you're pretty much kicking them while they're down, and where's the fun or sportsmanship in that? It just breeds animosity and makes some of them leave, so you have even less competition. It's like attacking lowbies or people who are clearly questing. I don't get any joy out of it, and I've been there, so I just let them be.

Magus

KenaPKK wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

Ugh, as an EP I really don't like the state of the map right now. It's no fun PvDooring, and it makes DC and AD hate us.

Hopefully the map will even out in a few hours, but I really don't know.

Does this imply that you do it?

Of course they do it, last night after the DC that were on logged off or went to IC, there was about 60-70 EP that PVDoored the emp ring. Was like a clown car, the EP moved together and had the longest tail I've ever seen in this game. It literally stretched from Ash to Roeback in a sea of endless EP as they bypassed Nikel. I was able to gank and peel some off for a few good 1v1 and 2v2 situations though so that was fun. Defended Nikel from 5 overzealous EP, was a nice 10k AP in under a minute.

DocFrost72

Well, the 3 DC left on Haderus tried to take back our own flipping home keep, rayles. After about five minutes of siege, 9 red come out and it's a wipe.

There are now 2 DC on Haderus. GG

Celas_Dranacea

Telel wrote: »

Sadly unless something shifts drastically in the pop balance by Thursday Telel will likely be preparing their pups to move back to True Flame.

It's not that we're not having fun and can't hold our own though. It's because there's no sport in it if in the end there's no chance at pulling out a win, or even coming close to it.

Of course considering the previous reason for this one and their pack leaving Haderus Telel can not help but be somewhat amused.

Yeah, It is kind of hard to justify fighting for the map instead of just seeking out fun fights/AP when you can't really expect to win this cycle. We can only do so much based on ethics / server balance before prioritizing the overall experience of guild members as a whole - though some of us don't mind hopeless odds, our people tend to want to fight in a campaign where a win is possible.

PrinceFabious

Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please