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Calling All Non-DC - HADERUS

  • Magus
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    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Sounds like you should re-roll factions. Shed off your potato ways.

    Though seriously, if you care about winning a campaign, you should all be on the same campaign. If you are the only faction that cares about winning the campaign and will do anything it takes to win, you must have to ask yourself what the point of that is? "I won against small man groups who have no interest in even sieging and taking keeps with 80vs20. We are the champions."
    Duraeon / Maoh
    Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
    PC/NA
  • PrinceFabious
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    Magus wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Sounds like you should re-roll factions. Shed off your potato ways.

    Though seriously, if you care about winning a campaign, you should all be on the same campaign. If you are the only faction that cares about winning the campaign and will do anything it takes to win, you must have to ask yourself what the point of that is? "I won against small man groups who have no interest in even sieging and taking keeps with 80vs20. We are the champions."

    Me and my duo partner are already rerolling alts. Its a secret to which faction though :)
  • TooskSG
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    Not much of a secret--it's DC
  • Magus
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    Magus wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Sounds like you should re-roll factions. Shed off your potato ways.

    Though seriously, if you care about winning a campaign, you should all be on the same campaign. If you are the only faction that cares about winning the campaign and will do anything it takes to win, you must have to ask yourself what the point of that is? "I won against small man groups who have no interest in even sieging and taking keeps with 80vs20. We are the champions."

    Me and my duo partner are already rerolling alts. Its a secret to which faction though :)

    Omg there's only two other factions to go to. I get a 50% chance of being right.

    I'm guessing DC though since why would you give up on farming AD, they are too fun to fight. DC has a glut of small man groups and very few large guilds that do any kind of objectives based PVP. DC plays more to have fun and be outnumbered.

    AD has good PVP during the week, on weekends AD PVP is pretty blah, like 200 AD that haven't played all week come out for the weekends only and it's harder to find good fights without overwhelming everything you come across.

    DC has good PVP and small queues on both weekdays and weekends but like I mentioned has very few groups that push objectives. Sometimes on DC, you will find yourself fighting stacked raids of guilds and unable to compete, so that can be frustrating.

    DC lifestyle = push bleakers and Chalman all day.

    AD lifestyle = push sej and BRK all day. Bridge fight for hours.

    EP lifestyle = stack 80 people on objectives and get 10k ap/hr
    Duraeon / Maoh
    Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
    PC/NA
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Huh.

    Trueflame's been darn near an insta-queue for me since the move.

    Also, if you're a team considering coming back to Trueflame due to not liking Haderus -- don't. TF is just about even as it is right now. EP might need a few more souls, but not many.

    Go to Azura's, which has an Oceanic DC infestation -- but they are soooooo farmable.

    Azura's is also good for teaching those new to PVP what to do as CP imbalance isn't as pronounced (still need 160 for max gear though).
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • God_flakes
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    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Huh.

    Trueflame's been darn near an insta-queue for me since the move.

    Also, if you're a team considering coming back to Trueflame due to not liking Haderus -- don't. TF is just about even as it is right now. EP might need a few more souls, but not many.

    Go to Azura's, which has an Oceanic DC infestation -- but they are soooooo farmable.

    Azura's is also good for teaching those new to PVP what to do as CP imbalance isn't as pronounced (still need 160 for max gear though).

    Right! He admits the TF queue is 80 and tries to encourage more people to go there? :confused:
  • FENGRUSH
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    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Huh.

    Trueflame's been darn near an insta-queue for me since the move.

    Also, if you're a team considering coming back to Trueflame due to not liking Haderus -- don't. TF is just about even as it is right now. EP might need a few more souls, but not many.

    Go to Azura's, which has an Oceanic DC infestation -- but they are soooooo farmable.

    Azura's is also good for teaching those new to PVP what to do as CP imbalance isn't as pronounced (still need 160 for max gear though).

    Dont insult the japanese DC zerg.
  • God_flakes
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Huh.

    Trueflame's been darn near an insta-queue for me since the move.

    Also, if you're a team considering coming back to Trueflame due to not liking Haderus -- don't. TF is just about even as it is right now. EP might need a few more souls, but not many.

    Go to Azura's, which has an Oceanic DC infestation -- but they are soooooo farmable.

    Azura's is also good for teaching those new to PVP what to do as CP imbalance isn't as pronounced (still need 160 for max gear though).

    Dont insult the japanese DC zerg.

    Have you remained on Haderus?
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    So...... yea.... Can all y'all Trueflame players go back onto Trueflame and stop making Haderus cancerous ? Seriously no one asked you zergs to come in and ruin the campaign.

    Ummmm no it's your guy's turn to babysit them.

    No no no no no no no no they are native to Trueflame you guys have to baby sit them take you children back.

    Now now we all have to take turns with the kiddos. What's fair is fair. o:)

    TF was actually enjoyable last night except for the IC diversion.

    No no no no you are taking them back whether you want to or not I'll load them up in a catapult and use them as ammo on a TF keep if I have to to get the back into TF.

    Fine. Would child support help? Something along the lines of 500 meatbags to launch at them? Trust me this sends them scurrying.

    I personally prefer scattershots cause 8% more damage but pair the 2 together.......
  • God_flakes
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    So...... yea.... Can all y'all Trueflame players go back onto Trueflame and stop making Haderus cancerous ? Seriously no one asked you zergs to come in and ruin the campaign.

    Ummmm no it's your guy's turn to babysit them.

    No no no no no no no no they are native to Trueflame you guys have to baby sit them take you children back.

    Now now we all have to take turns with the kiddos. What's fair is fair. o:)

    TF was actually enjoyable last night except for the IC diversion.

    No no no no you are taking them back whether you want to or not I'll load them up in a catapult and use them as ammo on a TF keep if I have to to get the back into TF.

    Fine. Would child support help? Something along the lines of 500 meatbags to launch at them? Trust me this sends them scurrying.

    I personally prefer scattershots cause 8% more damage but pair the 2 together.......

    I like to claim that zos has endowed me with some special, personal meatbag buff. Especially when whiskey is involved. Then I'm CONVINCED I am the meat queen and my meat does OP health damage.
    Edited by God_flakes on August 31, 2016 8:46PM
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    So...... yea.... Can all y'all Trueflame players go back onto Trueflame and stop making Haderus cancerous ? Seriously no one asked you zergs to come in and ruin the campaign.

    Ummmm no it's your guy's turn to babysit them.

    No no no no no no no no they are native to Trueflame you guys have to baby sit them take you children back.

    Now now we all have to take turns with the kiddos. What's fair is fair. o:)

    TF was actually enjoyable last night except for the IC diversion.

    No no no no you are taking them back whether you want to or not I'll load them up in a catapult and use them as ammo on a TF keep if I have to to get the back into TF.

    Fine. Would child support help? Something along the lines of 500 meatbags to launch at them? Trust me this sends them scurrying.

    I personally prefer scattershots cause 8% more damage but pair the 2 together.......

    I like to claim that zos has endowed me with some special, personal meatbag buff. Especially when whiskey is involved. Then I'm CONVINCED I am the meat queen and my meat does OP health damage.

    I actually wish there were some type of achievements related to siege - I'm pretty sure I'd be a master engineer or something like that by now - fire ballista is my weapon of choice.
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • God_flakes
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    So...... yea.... Can all y'all Trueflame players go back onto Trueflame and stop making Haderus cancerous ? Seriously no one asked you zergs to come in and ruin the campaign.

    Ummmm no it's your guy's turn to babysit them.

    No no no no no no no no they are native to Trueflame you guys have to baby sit them take you children back.

    Now now we all have to take turns with the kiddos. What's fair is fair. o:)

    TF was actually enjoyable last night except for the IC diversion.

    No no no no you are taking them back whether you want to or not I'll load them up in a catapult and use them as ammo on a TF keep if I have to to get the back into TF.

    Fine. Would child support help? Something along the lines of 500 meatbags to launch at them? Trust me this sends them scurrying.

    I personally prefer scattershots cause 8% more damage but pair the 2 together.......

    I like to claim that zos has endowed me with some special, personal meatbag buff. Especially when whiskey is involved. Then I'm CONVINCED I am the meat queen and my meat does OP health damage.

    I actually wish there were some type of achievements related to siege - I'm pretty sure I'd be a master engineer or something like that by now - fire ballista is my weapon of choice.

    Siegers unite! We play an important role!
  • NACtron
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    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    So...... yea.... Can all y'all Trueflame players go back onto Trueflame and stop making Haderus cancerous ? Seriously no one asked you zergs to come in and ruin the campaign.

    Ummmm no it's your guy's turn to babysit them.

    No no no no no no no no they are native to Trueflame you guys have to baby sit them take you children back.

    Now now we all have to take turns with the kiddos. What's fair is fair. o:)

    TF was actually enjoyable last night except for the IC diversion.

    No no no no you are taking them back whether you want to or not I'll load them up in a catapult and use them as ammo on a TF keep if I have to to get the back into TF.

    Fine. Would child support help? Something along the lines of 500 meatbags to launch at them? Trust me this sends them scurrying.

    I personally prefer scattershots cause 8% more damage but pair the 2 together.......

    I like to claim that zos has endowed me with some special, personal meatbag buff. Especially when whiskey is involved. Then I'm CONVINCED I am the meat queen and my meat does OP health damage.

    Uh phrasing ......
  • TooskSG
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    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way
  • NACtron
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to chest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.
    Edited by NACtron on August 31, 2016 10:58PM
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to chest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    Toosk is talking about a guy throwing shade last night.

    Some sub rank 20 that had no clue what he was talking about. I don't think he was PM, but was in a guild that Dominates Regularly.

    No big deal. I've been trolled by better, smarter, and wittier.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • Maztiax
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    I want in on this forum PvP action
  • NACtron
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to chest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    Toosk is talking about a guy throwing shade last night.

    Some sub rank 20 that had no clue what he was talking about. I don't think he was PM, but was in a guild that Dominates Regularly.

    No big deal. I've been trolled by better, smarter, and wittier.

    I think Toosk has the idea every EP player is PM guildie Lol :p
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • TooskSG
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP who disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game.

    Edit: My example of a PM guild member trash talking Agrippa was from last cycle. I know he was a PM member due to him wearing a PM tabard and "Pact Militia" being emblazoned in bold letters, under his character name, on my screen. I can dig up the footage and screencap a SS like usual of said trash talk. I'll be sure to black out the name so that I don't get zerg reported for naming and shaming though
    Edited by TooskSG on August 31, 2016 11:41PM
  • NACtron
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • TooskSG
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?

    That's quite amusing coming from the person who initiated this exchange via mistaking me for someone completely different. Speaking of making up statements...
  • NACtron
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?

    That's quite amusing coming from the person who initiated this exchange via mistaking me for someone completely different. Speaking of making up statements...

    Poor Troll attempt: 2/10

    Once again you have consistently shown that you have no interest in using logic or facts in this conversation
    Edited by NACtron on August 31, 2016 11:45PM
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • Celas_Dranacea
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    That's right EP - let the hatred envelop you - I'll fire a ballista at you while you're not looking
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • TooskSG
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?

    That's quite amusing coming from the person who initiated this exchange via mistaking me for someone completely different. Speaking of making up statements...

    Poor Troll attempt: 2/10

    Once again you have consistently shown that you have no interest in using logic in this conversation

    Because that which you disagree with is trolling? You might want to call in PM raids 1-6 to help you because, so far, you're just flailing about incoherently. Let me recap for you:

    1. You came into a thread.
    2. You read Arinar claiming you zerg both queues.
    3.You misattributed that statement to me and then ended your post on a blatantly snide remark towards myself.
    4. I came into thread after being messaged by friends about your sub-posting about me.
    5. I read your drivel that should've been directed towards Arinar.
    6. I came in and gave you back what you sent tenfold.


    Now, I could go on to explain how this situation is one of dramatic irony and how you're only making yourself (to everyone but yourself) seem more foolish by doubling down on "Let's have a logical debate" after you lambasted the wrong person with no evidence whatsoever. Or you could, you know, realize how you created this foolish situation by not paying attention to who posted what before posting passive-aggressive bullfuckery. I doubt you'll be able to recognize your shortcomings and adapt, much like how you still FD defended keeps and get farmed--even after asking those nasty "elitists" for advice then wholly disregarding any and all advice given.

  • NACtron
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    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?

    That's quite amusing coming from the person who initiated this exchange via mistaking me for someone completely different. Speaking of making up statements...

    Poor Troll attempt: 2/10

    Once again you have consistently shown that you have no interest in using logic in this conversation

    Because that which you disagree with is trolling? You might want to call in PM raids 1-6 to help you because, so far, you're just flailing about incoherently. Let me recap for you:

    1. You came into a thread.
    2. You read Arinar claiming you zerg both queues.
    3.You misattributed that statement to me and then ended your post on a blatantly snide remark towards myself.
    4. I came into thread after being messaged by friends about your sub-posting about me.
    5. I read your drivel that should've been directed towards Arinar.
    6. I came in and gave you back what you sent tenfold.


    Now, I could go on to explain how this situation is one of dramatic irony and how you're only making yourself (to everyone but yourself) seem more foolish by doubling down on "Let's have a logical debate" after you lambasted the wrong person with no evidence whatsoever. Or you could, you know, realize how you created this foolish situation by not paying attention to who posted what before posting passive-aggressive bullfuckery. I doubt you'll be able to recognize your shortcomings and adapt, much like how you still FD defended keeps and get farmed--even after asking those nasty "elitists" for advice then wholly disregarding any and all advice given.

    What "elitist" have I not listened to beside yourself. We often have sought the advice of many knowledgeable players and raid leads who have run organzied raids in the past and still today. For example I think Fengrush runs great builds and is a smart and talented 1vXer. If you are into that you should seek his advice. We have looked for advice in diffrent places from those have experience doing guild v guild.

    Once again I think you are confusing PM with other EP. Please show me a time we front doored a defended keep. The only time any EP really do that is when they hit Alessia front door and we've rode past many a time to the mine side and have seen amoung the other EP potatoes beat their heads into the front door while we try to actually seige the the thing.

    All of that being said I do apologize for accidentally thinking it was you. I just scrolled up. You too seem to talk similar on the forums and I'm doing this all from mobile so you'll have to forgive me on that :p

    Edited by NACtron on September 1, 2016 12:10AM
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • TooskSG
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    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    TooskSG wrote: »
    NACtron wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Yup it's just Pact Militia fault for the massive que. Not the other guilds that moved too. Not the useless Potatoes that followed, not the massive IC event going on right now that literally has full raids of AD DC and EP roaming the streets and sewers.

    On top of that Pact Militia is inflating the que for not one campaign but two! Insightful analysis as always Toosk.

    You might want to read the poster's name before allowing your deeply-rooted hatred for me cloud your, already near non-existent, reading comprehension. I understand that I hurt your precious feelings by calling out PM on their misplays,zerging, your members behaving poorly towards others in zone(notably the PM member who was trash talking Agrippa), etc. However, as you might not realize, either due to sheer ignorance or lack of solo forums experience, PrinceFabious(Arinar/Dubzug) =/= Toosk.

    That basic lesson will cost you 10k gold--gold is the only accepted form of payment, and it is to be in the mail before next Middas.

    Respectfully,
    Your Superior In Every Imaginable Way

    So instead of debating me using logic and reason you resort to vhest thumping and salt throwing. I don't hate you toosk but if you throw ridiculous attacks against my guild like you always do a near daily basis don't be surprised when you get some push back every now then. Being such a veteran of the forums as you say you should be used to having a argument but perhaps that is not what you are looking for.

    About the Agippa thing I have no idea what you are talking but he is a player and a raid lead that I personally admire and respect. I have no Ill will towards him.

    How do I put this in the simplest terms possible... Oh, I know, Hitchen's Razor.

    Also, if you think that your guild doesn't zerg and has its members zerg zone chat with ad hominem drivel against any and all Old Guard EP whom disagree with them in the slighest...well, then this exchange would be the forums imitating in-game

    I will be the first to admit that Pact Militia runs large raids and multiple of them. This is getting silly... Can you actually debate without making up events and statements out of thin air?

    That's quite amusing coming from the person who initiated this exchange via mistaking me for someone completely different. Speaking of making up statements...

    Poor Troll attempt: 2/10

    Once again you have consistently shown that you have no interest in using logic in this conversation

    Because that which you disagree with is trolling? You might want to call in PM raids 1-6 to help you because, so far, you're just flailing about incoherently. Let me recap for you:

    1. You came into a thread.
    2. You read Arinar claiming you zerg both queues.
    3.You misattributed that statement to me and then ended your post on a blatantly snide remark towards myself.
    4. I came into thread after being messaged by friends about your sub-posting about me.
    5. I read your drivel that should've been directed towards Arinar.
    6. I came in and gave you back what you sent tenfold.


    Now, I could go on to explain how this situation is one of dramatic irony and how you're only making yourself (to everyone but yourself) seem more foolish by doubling down on "Let's have a logical debate" after you lambasted the wrong person with no evidence whatsoever. Or you could, you know, realize how you created this foolish situation by not paying attention to who posted what before posting passive-aggressive bullfuckery. I doubt you'll be able to recognize your shortcomings and adapt, much like how you still FD defended keeps and get farmed--even after asking those nasty "elitists" for advice then wholly disregarding any and all advice given.

    What "elitist" have I not listened to beside yourself. We often have sought the advice of many knowledgeable players and raid leads. Once again I think you are confusing PM with other EP. And please show me a time we front doored a defended keep. The only time any EP really do that is when they hit Alessia front door and we've rode past many a time to the mine side and have seen amoung the other EP potatoes beat their heads into the front door while we try to actually seige the the thing.

    All of that being said I do apologize for accidentally thinking it was you. I just scrolled up. You too seem to talk similar on the forums and I'm doing this all from mobile so bear with me :p

    I'd bear with someone who doesn't try to save face via plausible deniability As a guild master leader, you are responsible for the actions of your members. If you want to insult the intelligence of the small PvP community with your current posturing attempt, by all means, have at it. However, you should realize that the community is small enough that it's a rather futile attempt to deceive anyone--as the community is small enough,and not locked to faction, to the point that everyone on the forums is "in the know" of what groups do and do not do. That lesson is free of charge, don't worry.
  • KenaPKK
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Pact Militia ruined PvP during prime time for EP. I have not been able to pvp at night because Haderus que was 120 and Trueflame Que was 80. This is getting out of hand. Keep all the zergs in Trueflame please

    Huh.

    Trueflame's been darn near an insta-queue for me since the move.

    Also, if you're a team considering coming back to Trueflame due to not liking Haderus -- don't. TF is just about even as it is right now. EP might need a few more souls, but not many.

    Go to Azura's, which has an Oceanic DC infestation -- but they are soooooo farmable.

    Azura's is also good for teaching those new to PVP what to do as CP imbalance isn't as pronounced (still need 160 for max gear though).

    Dont insult the japanese DC zerg.

    They're actually one Korean child multiboxing. Our Azn overlords are too good at video games to be that bad.
    Kena
    Former Class Rep
    Former Legend GM
    Beta player
  • dashima
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    Elong wrote: »
    I've been a big fan of Pact and other guilds working together over the last couple of months, but the conspiracy theories produced by carebears like Earthewen and the like have led me to shake my head and seriously consider rerolling.

    Yes!!!!!!! Uhh I mean, sorry to hear that. ;)
    Which faction were you considering if you actually did reroll?
    Magus wrote: »
    DC has a glut of small man groups and very few large guilds that do any kind of objectives based PVP. DC plays more to have fun and be outnumbered.

    I find this interesting, not arguing or anything but afaik:

    AD
    Dominion Knights (12-24) Trueflame
    Hagnado (8-16) Trueflame
    Queen's RAM (12-24) Trueflame, oceanic
    Venatus (8-16) Trueflame, oceanic

    Fantasia (12-24) Haderus
    Children of Hircine (8-16) Haderus

    DC
    Blood of Daggerfall (12-24) Trueflame
    Iron legion (12-24+) Trueflame
    Pug Guild (12-24) Trueflame
    Wormhole (12-24+) Trueflame, oceanic
    The K-Hole (8-16) Trueflame
    The Kelly Gang (8-16) Trueflame, oceanic
    Elder Skills (8-16 ish?) Trueflame

    It also appears that all the DC zergs that were on Had have since moved onto Trueflame or Azuras. Not sure where Requiem has gone but I saw some of their guys running around Trueflame this week?
    Edited by dashima on September 1, 2016 1:07AM
    Venatus | Hagnado

    AD | Revân Stamina Nightblade AR35 scrub
    AD | Rëvan Stamina Sorcerer fotm
    DC | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    tfw too lazy to grind
    AD | Ain Ghazal Magicka DK
    AD | Run I Triggered Them Magicka Templar
    DC | Inner Postern Wall Stamina Templar
    DC | Kaivalanth Magicka Nightblade
    DC | Rëvân Stamina Nightblade
  • _Crow
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    lol
    Edited by _Crow on September 1, 2016 1:11AM
    GM: Army of the Pact
    Loves War almost as much as Tbagging
    -Crow, Mag DK
    -Murder of Crows, Stam Warden
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