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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

helm not dropping in cradle of shadows normal mode

qwjr8989_ESO
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anyone else noticing this?

We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

is it bugged or removed?
  • DPShiro
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    I thought monster helmets only dropped in Veteran mode in dungeons?
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  • Destruent
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    I guess it was bugged in the first week :)
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  • Curragraigue
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    You shouldn't be able to get a monster helm from normal so the bug was you getting it in the first week.
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.
  • Darlon
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

  • Transairion
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.


    Sounds like you need to learn, I was literally in a group where a groupmate got the monster helm from Normal RoM, had the ability to trade it within the group and everything. A lot of questioning and "you're trolling" later and indeed it was a legit drop.

    Now whether it's intended or not is the real question; the new Vet Dungeon final bosses (especially RoM) are disgustingly hard and RoM's monster set is really, incredibly lackluster.... so I could see it being intended. Or someone made a big oopsie.

    This was only a few days ago as well.

  • Drakoleon
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    RNG is bugged too :o
  • Personofsecrets
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    does anyone actually care if the helm is able to drop on normal?
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    My level 48 warden helm says otherwise B)

    Will leave you all to wonder how I got that.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/screenshot/4637386

    Proof above. Got a Kena too.
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    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    My level 48 warden helm says otherwise B)

    Will leave you all to wonder how I got that.

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DR X Harbinger/screenshot/4637386

    Proof above. Got a Kena too.

    The same bug was also there during IC release.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 14, 2016 3:23PM
  • makreth
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    does anyone actually care if the helm is able to drop on normal?

    did it yesterday, helmet dropped from me. Only me in the grp. Normal mode. Was my first time as well.
    Edited by makreth on August 14, 2016 3:52PM
  • DPShiro
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    They should only drop in Veteran mode, or else everyone would have everything without any actual effort.
    Thank god Maelstrom weapons are still awarded for skill, on console at least.
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  • Nebthet78
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    The helm does drop in Normal mode, been trading with people in my group since release so they can get the pieces they need to continue with end game content.

    Vet mode gives you a much higher chance of getting a helm. Almost a guarantee. The Normal mode gives you like a 20% chance for one person in your party to get a helm, which I have absolutely no issues with.
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    The helm does drop in Normal mode, been trading with people in my group since release so they can get the pieces they need to continue with end game content.

    Vet mode gives you a much higher chance of getting a helm. Almost a guarantee. The Normal mode gives you like a 20% chance for one person in your party to get a helm, which I have absolutely no issues with.

    This. I also had a helm drop in normal CoS this week.
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  • Vaoh
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    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Speak for yourself!
    • ~30 runs of Vet Darkshade. No helm. Had to buy from vendor.
    • 100+ vMA runs and tons of leaderboard rewards, yet not a single Dagger or Axe (in any trait) has dropped for me.
    • I know PLENTY of people suffering from terrible RNG issue.

    Your 2-3 runs per helm is pure luck, and not at all representative of this MMORPG's loot being all easily given away.
  • Wolfchild07
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    Yup, the helms for the new dungeons drop in normal mode. I've heard that you still have to do vet mode for the purple jewelry, though.
  • qwjr8989_ESO
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    anyone?
  • qwjr8989_ESO
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    anyone?

    Thread bugged - ignore this post

    The chance for helms on vet was increased in dark brotherhood - before it could take 20-30 runs if unlucky - since then at least one person gets a helm most of the time - often times 3 people will all get it
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Speak for yourself!
    • ~30 runs of Vet Darkshade. No helm. Had to buy from vendor.
    • 100+ vMA runs and tons of leaderboard rewards, yet not a single Dagger or Axe (in any trait) has dropped for me.
    • I know PLENTY of people suffering from terrible RNG issue.

    Your 2-3 runs per helm is pure luck, and not at all representative of this MMORPG's loot being all easily given away.

    Can not believe that 30 run and no helm..
  • Transairion
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    Can not believe that 30 run and no helm..

    I've done Veteran City of Ash well over 30 times and only have a lone, Propserous Skoria helm to show for it. RNG can be a real son of a gun, especially since most of those runs everyone linked the helms THEY got while I got blue loot.

    At least now I can trade for them...
  • Cazic
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Speak for yourself!
    • ~30 runs of Vet Darkshade. No helm. Had to buy from vendor.
    • 100+ vMA runs and tons of leaderboard rewards, yet not a single Dagger or Axe (in any trait) has dropped for me.
    • I know PLENTY of people suffering from terrible RNG issue.

    Your 2-3 runs per helm is pure luck, and not at all representative of this MMORPG's loot being all easily given away.

    Can not believe that 30 run and no helm..

    It's not uncommon. I ran vet dsrkshade countless times and never looted a helm. Ended up buying one from the vendor. Later on, once I already had the helm, it did end up dropping for me. Kind of annoying... But it is totally random.

    Its possible some helms drop more or less than others though. I'm not sure. But being able to get one in 2-3 runs or having it "almost guranteed" isn't the experience for many players.

    On topic... I've always understood that helms are only supposed to drop in veteran dungeons. I would agree with others in this thread who have said that.

    If this has changed I'd like to see an official comment on it from zos somewhere. Otherwise itj wasn't working as intended.
  • Mortehl
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    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Hopefully console will also get? How about you just learn the veteran dungeons and act less concerned about government cheese helmets?
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    Mortehl wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Hopefully console will also get? How about you just learn the veteran dungeons and act less concerned about government cheese helmets?

    Lol, i have 626 CP on console and can do any dungeon pretty much confident.

    I was only saying in case if veteran dungeons drop not happened for me sooner..

    In pc i have 200 CP and had once tried One dungeon and we were unable to kill mighty chudan.. these new dungeons are enjoyable but hard and require good team.
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 14, 2016 7:07PM
  • Vaoh
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    anyone else noticing this?

    We were able to get the helmet from cradle normal mode for the first week or so but now we can't

    is it bugged or removed?

    lmfao xD

    you got lots to learn man. helmets are veteran only.

    And still on the pts and the first week of live they did drop on normal mode, so his question is valid..

    Hopefully console will also get :-)
    Drakoleon wrote: »
    RNG is bugged too :o

    Well believe me, this games rewards more frequently than other MMORPG..

    2-3 run and got monster helm, which is elite item gear. This is so freaking easy.& Good.

    Speak for yourself!
    • ~30 runs of Vet Darkshade. No helm. Had to buy from vendor.
    • 100+ vMA runs and tons of leaderboard rewards, yet not a single Dagger or Axe (in any trait) has dropped for me.
    • I know PLENTY of people suffering from terrible RNG issue.

    Your 2-3 runs per helm is pure luck, and not at all representative of this MMORPG's loot being all easily given away.

    Can not believe that 30 run and no helm..

    I've had to solo every boss in that dungeon when my allies die asap. They get the helm. I don't.

    I said 30 completions, but it may be even more. That's RNG for you :(
    Edited by Vaoh on August 15, 2016 1:20AM
  • DocFrost72
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    Can confirm a buddy I ran with last night got the helm. One drop in two runs, technically 8 chances at it. Tbh, that seems fair to me.

    @Ep1kMalware I do love seeing you burned. What he was asking was, "Is the fact that it happened normal", not "Does it happen". Not everyone is a N008
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    Level 48 nerenith helm today. B)
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can confirm a buddy I ran with last night got the helm. One drop in two runs, technically 8 chances at it. Tbh, that seems fair to me.

    @Ep1kMalware I do love seeing you burned. What he was asking was, "Is the fact that it happened normal", not "Does it happen". Not everyone is a N008

    ooooh, whatever, I love burning people xD

    besides, lije 88% of people are noobs. that's only lije 12% chance I'm mistaken :p
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    For a standalone dlc it should drop in normal.
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can confirm a buddy I ran with last night got the helm. One drop in two runs, technically 8 chances at it. Tbh, that seems fair to me.

    @Ep1kMalware I do love seeing you burned. What he was asking was, "Is the fact that it happened normal", not "Does it happen". Not everyone is a N008

    He (or she) is simply incapable of ever giving constructive criticism or advice without sounding arrogant. Worse, the advice is rarely worth listening to. Wish forums had an ignore button.

    To answer the OP question, it was commonly thought that helms only drop in vet, but there are a lot of accounts that contradict that. It might be that they only drop in normal at lower levels, but until the devs confirm, there is no way to know if it is intended.
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