Being a Vampire @ PVP

Lord_Eomer

10% recovery is not worth at all aginst the whopping damage vampire take from Balista fires.

I have 15k spell resistance but still balista wins. Onlu vampire stealth bonus so far kept me as Vampire.

Either Cold Fire balista damage aginst foes should be reduced or Vampires fire damage should be further reduced.

Edited : 15 Aug

I do not know how to close this thread as can not see any option available.

I am ok with cold fire damage as its making pvp Interesting, although my lil lvl 40 toon is taking ton of fire damage.

Thank you everyone for comments, my initial requet was to nerf but later instead i decided to use Cold Fire sieges.

neville_bart0s

try standing inside the red circle

Lord_Eomer

neville_bart0s wrote: »

try standing inside the red circle

Lol, if u were standing inside probably it was me hitting..

KenaPKK

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lord_Eomer

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

Bdawwg

roll dodge out of siege
Slot a purge
Have a tenplar nearby and run into their circle of purification
Be aware of surrounding
If you die you die it's a game you're doing to die don't be so afraid of dying.

Vampire needs a weakness to fire
10% regen is a big thing
Only cold fire ballista hits so hard that you have little time to react and heal up.
Also you can heal through a fire ballista however if like you said there are multiple siege hits then no one will survive vampire or not. After all it is multiple siege engines.

Lord_Eomer

Bdawwg wrote: »

roll dodge out of siege
Slot a purge
Have a tenplar nearby and run into their circle of purification
Be aware of surrounding
If you die you die it's a game you're doing to die don't be so afraid of dying.

Vampire needs a weakness to fire
10% regen is a big thing
Only cold fire ballista hits so hard that you have little time to react and heal up.
Also you can heal through a fire ballista however if like you said there are multiple siege hits then no one will survive vampire or not. After all it is multiple siege engines.

Doing the similar stuff, thank you for advise through.

I am able to manage via my main NB Vampire (700 CP) but its getting harder @ Black Water Campaign on my lil lvl 40 toon..

Tying to get hands on emperor, one way to another but its hell harder..

WhiteMage

I don't believe you, OP, but I'll play along.

In my opinion, if increased siege damage it the biggest or your worries as a vampire, you're quite well off. If anything the biggest killer is the increased damage you take from Dawnbreaker. Now THAT hurts.

I play in non CP and there that 10% regen goes a really long way. Not to mention, as a magplar, mist form is a godsend escape skill for an otherwise stationary class. Those are the biggest wins for a vamp (IMO) but undeath and dark stalker are very welcome buffs as well. Personally, I don't notice the increased siege damage, which may be because I purge it quickly after afflicted, or just walk out before it hits (mist form can help with that, or absorb the hit).

Full disclosure, as a solo player I use cold fire ballistae A LOT when grossly outnumbered and I've noticed a few things about siege damage. One, they do a flat, unmitigateable damage that no amount of resistance nor penetration can change, and two, the ballista can sometimes "crit" (as far as I can tell, always with the same crit modifier). It actually just occurred to me that this could be from hitting vamps, but I can't say one way or the other because I seem to recall times when only one tick would "crit" and times when one player would be "crit" against consistently. Despite this, the field troops' cure to ballistae is more health, self heals, damage mitigation in the form of shields (or mist form), purges, or the old fashioned GTFO of that red circle. Siege is supposed to be scary, and you'll be a better player for treating it like a real threat and responding accordingly.

In summary, vamp is a godsend for my Magicka pvp toons. Siege is not too strong, doesn't need nerf.

And if I may be so bold: /endthread

Surak73

1) Get out of the stupid fire. When you see the red circle, you have an awful lot of time to move out before the fire comes.

2) Be a templar. I'm a templar vampire myself, and i've no problem whatsoever with ballista fire. Ritual of retribution, end of pain. Fullstop.

3) Stand near a templar. When you see the sinergy "purify yourself", use it. It's not an adornment...

4) Slot a purge for emergencies.

ku5h

Not all classes will benefit from vamp. For most spec i will be a disadvantage, but to some its definitely a boon. I have 2 toons that are vamp. My stamNB who benefits greatly from 10% regen to stam and magica + speed boost in stealth is great, and my magica Templar who got a massive survivability boost by becoming a vamp by gaining Elusive mist skill.

Lord_Eomer

ku5h wrote: »

Not all classes will benefit from vamp. For most spec i will be a disadvantage, but to some its definitely a boon. I have 2 toons that are vamp. My stamNB who benefits greatly from 10% regen to stam and magica + speed boost in stealth is great, and my magica Templar who got a massive survivability boost by becoming a vamp by gaining Elusive mist skill.

Actually i am trying bosmer mageblade because of stealth passive, i know its bettee to have stamblade but i just love to be Mageblade.. @ cloak spamming

DRXHarbinger

Cloak and the dot won't kill you. Wait 3s and it's gone back to seige. Easy.

Lettigall

Only problem with balista, is that sometimes red circle is not visible. If you're hit with it and see red circle- it's your fault!

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Mist form is your friend. I couldn't imagine playing PVP without it.

Rohamad_Ali

A few points in elemental defense an quick recovery helps negate some of this .

Lord_Eomer

Lettigall wrote: »

Only problem with balista, is that sometimes red circle is not visible. If you're hit with it and see red circle- it's your fault!

Cold harbour ballistas are real killers, i do not care about nornal ones but cold harbours are totally bad ***..

psychotic13

No idea what you're talking about, I think every character I have is currently a vampire. Rarely if ever do I get killed by siege.

Unsent.Soul

The dmg reduction after 50% health loss is incredible coupled with the regens....

Don't stand in stupid, if you do have a cleanse/purge/ purify available. Also nobody called you stupid. They simply said don't stand in stupid, which has been a popular term with this game for the better part of its life.

NBrookus

Lettigall wrote: »

Only problem with balista, is that sometimes red circle is not visible. If you're hit with it and see red circle- it's your fault!

Yeah, been "seeing" a lot of invisible siege lately.

On CP campaigns, it's not so bad, but in Azuras siege is freakin' painful.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

10% recovery is not worth at all aginst the whopping damage vampire take from Balista fires.

I have 15k spell resistance but still balista wins. Onlu vampire stealth bonus so far kept me as Vampire.

Either Fire balista damage aginst foes should be reduced or Vampires fire damage should be further reduced.

mistform is best pvp move around keeps and breaches, your just doing it wrong.

Dredlord

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

I have 4 of my 8 chars as a vamp. None have any problems with excessive fire damage. I pvp almost exclusively.

I can tell by your posts this a definately a l2p issue. Vamp fire damage weakness has been reduced more than once in the past. It is in a good place now.

Lord_Eomer

Dredlord wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

I have 4 of my 8 chars as a vamp. None have any problems with excessive fire damage. I pvp almost exclusively.

I can tell by your posts this a definately a l2p issue. Vamp fire damage weakness has been reduced more than once in the past. It is in a good place now.

I am talking about cold fire or cold harbour balista or trebuchet..

Not Sure u know about those..

Lord_Eomer

Thank you everyone, gonna also use code fire siege so closing this thread.

RAGUNAnoOne

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

He means this:

https://youtu.be/_1Fr5OwWsbQ

BigBragg

I believe Vampirism is fine as is. There are many that play it quite successfully in Cyrodell. I think a bigger issue is that everything Coldfire doesn't show the red AoE, so you get blind sighted by the strongest ant-personnel siege in the game.

psychotic13

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

He means this:

https://youtu.be/_1Fr5OwWsbQ

Haha Jim get out of the red!

Stravokov

drain essence... if your not using it, your missing out.

one of the best skills in the game. stuns, heals, builds ultimate, does damage. cant tell you how many people if killed with it.

BruhItsOver9000

Stravokov wrote: »

drain essence... if your not using it, your missing out.

one of the best skills in the game. stuns, heals, builds ultimate, does damage. cant tell you how many people if killed with it.

Lol.

ArchMikem

The majority of PvP is nothing but Vampires though.

dwtdwtdwt

If fire damage to vampires gets reduced, so should the stealth speed bonus. You shouldn't have both stealth speed and low intake of fire damage. The thing with Vamps and Werewolves, is that they must come with drawbacks to balance the perks. WW's have a few awesome skills and light attacks, plus good stam recovery, but take more damage from poisons. Vampires can move quickly in stealth, have a powerful ultimate and Mist Form, but take more damage from fire. Why ask for more or less? If you don't like the fire damage and low health recovery, don't be a vampire. Sheesh... SMH

Dredlord

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Dredlord wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

If you stand in stupid, expect to get punished.

I hate when people come on here whining for the game to be easier or more forgiving than it already is.

Lol, you have no idea then for PVP...may be u havw spent couple of years, just rif raf aroud..

Vampires are busted. Its not usually single siege to dodge.

Not sure even u are playing @ pvp or not..

I also hate when people comes and not understand anything before replying. Also please mind ur language before calling stupid

I posted this thread to dicuss if being vampire a worthy choice @ pvp

In my opinion yes and they take so much fire which can be reduced a bit..

I have 4 of my 8 chars as a vamp. None have any problems with excessive fire damage. I pvp almost exclusively.

I can tell by your posts this a definately a l2p issue. Vamp fire damage weakness has been reduced more than once in the past. It is in a good place now.

I am talking about cold fire or cold harbour balista or trebuchet..

Not Sure u know about those..

Its obvious your struggling with english a bit, I bet if you read my post a little slower it would be obvious I "know about those"...