Alteration Mastery - bugged?

JodaGreyhame

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

UltimaJoe777

Probably only reduces the costs associated with attacking, therefore the tooltip is misleading. Not the first vague tooltip to fool people though.

Mashille

I don't think it is meant to reduce those costs.

However, I think the set would be far more viable if it actually did reduce, Blocking, Dodge Rolling, Breaking Free, Sneaking and Sprinting. As at the moment it's not a very used set.

runagate

It certainly used to reduce dodge and break free costs, which is why I used it in 2014. At that time it had an 8% reduction. I suspect it got a bug when recently raised to the CP cap and nerfed.

DKsUnite

it basically acts like a reduce cost/spell cost jewelry glyph. So it does abilities, dodge roll, break free etc. Imo it needs block to make it worthwhile

stevepdodson_ESO888

also...based on the type of set it is...check to see if it only reduces magicka skill costs or will also reduce the cost of a stamina weapon-based skills (or any stamina skill, Shuffle, Fighter's Guild stuff, etc)

JodaGreyhame

Yes, it currently already reduces the cost of all stamina and magicka abilities @stevepdodson_ESO888

Clyde_Arrowny

I'm a bit gutted that the 5 piece doesn't seem to apply to block cost. Is the set still viable for a PvE Magicka DK tank or should I stick with 5x Seducer?

Glory

I was disappointed in seeing this as well.It should reduce all costs.

CPT_CAPSLOCK

JodaGreyhame wrote: »

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

it does reduce the cost of rolls

juhasman

Change 4th piece bonus to max magicka and I'll dont care it does not reduce block and crouch costs

Dubhliam

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

JodaGreyhame wrote: »

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

it does reduce the cost of rolls

Yes, I tested it also, and confirm it does reduce dodge costs.
I am currently using it on my mag tank, and it works well, although I have some issues with it:

1. It does not reduce the block cost
2. The jewelry only comes in Arcane
3. Non jewelry parts are really hard to obtain in desired traits

I would very much like to see it changed to at least include the block cost reduction in it, although the tooltip leads us to believe sneak and sprint costs would also be reduced.

It figures @Wrobel would leave out block cost from the reduction, he has shown no love for tanks so far.

Alcast

Dubhliam wrote: »

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

JodaGreyhame wrote: »

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

it does reduce the cost of rolls

Yes, I tested it also, and confirm it does reduce dodge costs.
I am currently using it on my mag tank, and it works well, although I have some issues with it:

1. It does not reduce the block cost
2. The jewelry only comes in Arcane
3. Non jewelry parts are really hard to obtain in desired traits

I would very much like to see it changed to at least include the block cost reduction in it, although the tooltip leads us to believe sneak and sprint costs would also be reduced.

It figures @Wrobel would leave out block cost from the reduction, he has shown no love for tanks so far.

No loves from tank? Heavy Armor got buffed pretty darn hard last patch. Or am I missing smth?
Tho ye, the set says all costs so everything should be reduced

Dubhliam

Alcast wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

JodaGreyhame wrote: »

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

it does reduce the cost of rolls

Yes, I tested it also, and confirm it does reduce dodge costs.
I am currently using it on my mag tank, and it works well, although I have some issues with it:

1. It does not reduce the block cost
2. The jewelry only comes in Arcane
3. Non jewelry parts are really hard to obtain in desired traits

I would very much like to see it changed to at least include the block cost reduction in it, although the tooltip leads us to believe sneak and sprint costs would also be reduced.

It figures @Wrobel would leave out block cost from the reduction, he has shown no love for tanks so far.

No loves from tank? Heavy Armor got buffed pretty darn hard last patch. Or am I missing smth?
Tho ye, the set says all costs so everything should be reduced

It got buffed for PvP, PvE tanks have no use from the Wrath passive.
We lost Bracing, and got shoehorned into using double sword and board while tanking PvE content.
There are whole sets that don't come in sturdy, including one of the best tanking sets: Black Rose.
I can't wait for PTS to see if they finally changed that.

Not to mention all the dungeon bosses where the tank role is obsolete (Planar Inhibitor in WGT, Engine Guardian in Darkshade etc.)

What I am trying to say is that the block cost reduction from Alteration is more likely left out on purpose, rather than by mistake.

Alcast

Dubhliam wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

JodaGreyhame wrote: »

The Alteration Mastery set seems bugged to me. The tooltip clearly states that it reduces ALL costs by 6%.

I've done a bit of testing, and it doesn't reduce the cost of blocking, sprinting or sneaking (haven't tested dodge-roll yet, though I'm guessing it won't). However, it does reduce the cost of abilities, ultimate abilities and bash.



Anyone else have this same issue?

Can you please look into this @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

it does reduce the cost of rolls

Yes, I tested it also, and confirm it does reduce dodge costs.
I am currently using it on my mag tank, and it works well, although I have some issues with it:

1. It does not reduce the block cost
2. The jewelry only comes in Arcane
3. Non jewelry parts are really hard to obtain in desired traits

I would very much like to see it changed to at least include the block cost reduction in it, although the tooltip leads us to believe sneak and sprint costs would also be reduced.

It figures @Wrobel would leave out block cost from the reduction, he has shown no love for tanks so far.

No loves from tank? Heavy Armor got buffed pretty darn hard last patch. Or am I missing smth?
Tho ye, the set says all costs so everything should be reduced

It got buffed for PvP, PvE tanks have no use from the Wrath passive.
We lost Bracing, and got shoehorned into using double sword and board while tanking PvE content.
There are whole sets that don't come in sturdy, including one of the best tanking sets: Black Rose.
I can't wait for PTS to see if they finally changed that.

Not to mention all the dungeon bosses where the tank role is obsolete (Planar Inhibitor in WGT, Engine Guardian in Darkshade etc.)

What I am trying to say is that the block cost reduction from Alteration is more likely left out on purpose, rather than by mistake.

Constitution helps both in PVE and PVP. What class do you play? Ye might be true that it was left out on purpose, tho most likeley they just forgot about it OR the description is poorly written (like most old sets)