Console needs buff/debuff popups

Ohhgrizyyy

Pc has add-ons for buffs and debuffs to pop up on screen, So I'm wondering is it really that hard to just implement it into the game?
Its a pain in the ass on console to keep track if you're overlapping buffs and if something in a dungeon debuffs you and you dont even know it. Something else I feel that would honestly be great is since PC has add-ons for skyshards and lorebooks what about adding in something for 1500-2000 crowns to show all skyshards and lorebooks on the map for all characters??

I just feel console is so much harder and not fair compared to pc when its things I feel they could easily implemented by ZOS.

Leave me y'alls opinions below.

Panth141

Yes to buff trackers, probably a no to crown store map markers

Ohhgrizyyy

Yea but if they implemented the map marker it would be beneficial to ZOS and would be the players choice, People wanna know where it is and spend less time grinding and ZOS gets money for it, If they dont wanna spend the money they spend more time finding it all. Idk thats just my opinion

Strider_Roshin

No. Doing this would eliminate a skillful aspect of combat. Thinking less isn't a good thing.

BruhItsOver9000

I agree. ^ the guy up there is a filthy nord, don't listen to him.

Ohhgrizyyy

Every other mmorpg has buff popups...Eso should have the same thing, Doesnt take skill to apply buffs, Its literally just a helping tool.

Every player on pc downloads the buff add-ons cause its helpful and literally every single other mmorpg has them, Plus with this way you're not wasting resources.

Ohhgrizyyy

I mean are you telling me Sypherpk, KingRichard, Fengrush, Deltia etc, Are less skilled cause they have buff indicators/pop ups?

johu31

Yes to all plus a dps test subject with infinite health, 1 min timer, and a report!

imnotanother

Just like the ultimate counter, ZOS could add the timer in the bottom corner of each skill. I would like to know how many more seconds my Caltrops have left, as well.

IwakuraLain42

imnotanother wrote: »

Just like the ultimate counter, ZOS could add the timer in the bottom corner of each skill. I would like to know how many more seconds my Caltrops have left, as well.

The ultimate counter is already hard to read if you're sitting a few meters away from your console/TV and it wouldn't help you anyway with buffs from your backbar ...

NeillMcAttack

Yes to the skyshard and lorebook marker!! It would be great if it marked them account wide as they are discovered on any character. Would add a nice sense of completion too not to mention it being a solid money spinner for the devs.

As for the buff timer, I don't want it personnally. I like using the visual animations, when the lag isn't so bad, I would much rather the immersive feel of looking at my character and enemies character instead of staring at little boxes all down the side of my screen. And you can't say, "just don't use them" because I would be putting myself at a massive disadvantage not using them, making me feel forced into stuffing tons of indicators all over my screen!!

Enodoc

I think ZOS said that a buff tracker is something they are working on for the future.

Ohhgrizyyy

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Yes to the skyshard and lorebook marker!! It would be great if it marked them account wide as they are discovered on any character. Would add a nice sense of completion too not to mention it being a solid money spinner for the devs.

As for the buff timer, I don't want it personnally. I like using the visual animations, when the lag isn't so bad, I would much rather the immersive feel of looking at my character and enemies character instead of staring at little boxes all down the side of my screen. And you can't say, "just don't use them" because I would be putting myself at a massive disadvantage not using them, making me feel forced into stuffing tons of indicators all over my screen!!

I understand what you mean from that perspective, But sometimes in a fight like pvp or even a dungeon/trials you're not down looking to see the animation, Depending on the buff there is no animation for the buff after it's cast, But I mean even for abilities like rally or if an ability activates savagery or heroism or whatever the case may be

Ohhgrizyyy

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Yes to the skyshard and lorebook marker!! It would be great if it marked them account wide as they are discovered on any character. Would add a nice sense of completion too not to mention it being a solid money spinner for the devs.

As for the buff timer, I don't want it personnally. I like using the visual animations, when the lag isn't so bad, I would much rather the immersive feel of looking at my character and enemies character instead of staring at little boxes all down the side of my screen. And you can't say, "just don't use them" because I would be putting myself at a massive disadvantage not using them, making me feel forced into stuffing tons of indicators all over my screen!!

And no it wouldnt be all over your screen just maybe on the bottom right corner or all in a line over your resource bars or ability bar

Ohhgrizyyy

imnotanother wrote: »

Just like the ultimate counter, ZOS could add the timer in the bottom corner of each skill. I would like to know how many more seconds my Caltrops have left, as well.

Wouldn't even need a timer as long as maybe its like a box showing the buff or if we have to learn the icons for the certain buffs or know the ability icon maybe its fully lit when you first cast it or it activates and as the timer runs down the color just slowly fades away like its ticking away into like black and white or just an empty box then when the buff or ability ends the box just completely disappears

Ohhgrizyyy

Enodoc wrote: »

I think ZOS said that a buff tracker is something they are working on for the future.

I really hope so, We honestly need this

Ohhgrizyyy

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Just like the ultimate counter, ZOS could add the timer in the bottom corner of each skill. I would like to know how many more seconds my Caltrops have left, as well.

The ultimate counter is already hard to read if you're sitting a few meters away from your console/TV and it wouldn't help you anyway with buffs from your backbar ...

Doesn't even really be a timer, Just a box with the buff if we have to learn what they look like ourselves or if it shows the actual ability symbol itself just be full colored when its first cast or the buff is applied to you then the color just slowly fades/ticks away like if its a timer just ticking away.

Paraflex

Could not agree more with this a must have for ps4 and xbox players.

Paraflex

I have to add as a healer this would be very useful. I would like to see some sort of group identification for disease and debuffs added too.

Ohhgrizyyy

It'd be great for communication as well if the healer cast a buff on the whole group as they could let him know when it runs out and to recast and such

Ohhgrizyyy

Maybe even for enemy AI under their healthbar is shows a small box showing the debuffs and such on them whether it is a snare, fear, resistance drop or maybe like something doing DoT damage like poison injection and so on

Brrrofski

Buff trackers would be awesome. I probably overcast so many abilities in dungoens.

Ohhgrizyyy

Showing it on enemy AI's like disease and DoT's would be great for both PvP and bosses in dungeons and trials

Refuse2GrowUp

Enodoc wrote: »

I think ZOS said that a buff tracker is something they are working on for the future.

ZOS has said lots of stuff. S*** in one hand, wish in the other...let's see which fills up quicker

CromulentForumID

Paraflex wrote: »

I have to add as a healer this would be very useful. I would like to see some sort of group identification for disease and debuffs added too.

I agree. In group content there really isn't a great way to see what is debuffing you or members of your group.

No, I do not think little arrows on a resource bar or an effect obscured by three other effects is enough.

Little icons that are an option to turn off would be just super, thanks.

Shad0wfire99

I agree that this would be helpful, but honestly, there are enough visual cue's that this isn't really a huge problem.

Strider_Roshin

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Every other mmorpg has buff popups...Eso should have the same thing, Doesnt take skill to apply buffs, Its literally just a helping tool.

Every player on pc downloads the buff add-ons cause its helpful and literally every single other mmorpg has them, Plus with this way you're not wasting resources.

The skill aspect is paying enough attention to your character in order to know when you reapply buffs. Yes it requires less skill to have the game tell you this information.

Ohhgrizyyy

statisticalanomaly13ub17_ESO wrote: »

I agree that this would be helpful, but honestly, there are enough visual cue's that this isn't really a huge problem.

Can be when it comes to templars buffs or something like rally, or grim focus from nightblade or whatever else plus its just nice to when they are gonna end so you can get a chance to reapply if needed before a fight or whatever else in pvp, Go hide behind a rock and recast or something, And tbh when in the moment you're not looking at your character for glowing purple hands or your weapon glowing from something, You're busy looking at your enemies health or where they are going. At least an option to toggle it on and off would be great

KingYogi415

We need these basic features!
Completing the mages guild quest should have unlocked the location of the rest of the books!

Ohhgrizyyy

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

Every other mmorpg has buff popups...Eso should have the same thing, Doesnt take skill to apply buffs, Its literally just a helping tool.

Every player on pc downloads the buff add-ons cause its helpful and literally every single other mmorpg has them, Plus with this way you're not wasting resources.

The skill aspect is paying enough attention to your character in order to know when you reapply buffs. Yes it requires less skill to have the game tell you this information.

I just dont understand why basically every other mmorpg does it but ESO doesnt and these other games are even more skill based and more technical. Just about everyone on pc uses the add-ons for it and I find it very unfair for console players

zZzleepyhead

Don't expect buff trackers. If they add buff trackers to the UI I will literally *** brix. Even though I think it's ridiculous they don't have them, there's already been back and forth banter as to whether they belong in ESO. Obviously ZOS thinks they don't and to change their minds 2 years later would just be the most embarrassing update to the game.

It was never a matter of development time. It's that they want to keep the classic TES players happy and discourage hardcore players from pushing the game to its limits because the game is actually imba af.

Just to give you another example. Before release there was a decision made to hide all API data from users so addons such as LUI or FTC would not be able to exist. There was a lot of heat on the subject. The decision was reversed, but It was the initial '*** you' from ZOS to all competitive players. Luckily we had Tamriel Foundry's founder Atropos and Entropy Rising, a(1st) competitive guild, beta testing for ZOS. If it wasn't for their presence we could be playing a much worse ESO right now.

As far as Skyshard/Lorebook hunting goes there are plenty of online maps you could pull up to locate them.