How the *** will Tamriel one work?

SleepyTroll

If I cant even log onto my main character in mounrhold during prime time? Where did the server shards go? Good servers cost to much or what?
P.S. Where is the footage from the meet ups we had for the "Promo video"?

Forestd16b14_ESO

It won't....

The lag in PvP ? Yea that's gonna be in PvE now. Lore ? HA HA HA it has been thrown out the window. Dev team actually answering question and making good game changes ? Haven't done it before why start now.

craybest

there's no reason why we would have more lag. ESO already has ways in PVE to separate people to prevent too big of a crowd.

SleepyTroll

craybest wrote: »

there's no reason why we would have more lag. ESO already has ways in PVE to separate people to prevent too big of a crowd.

NO see that's where ur wrong. They took that out, if there is too big of a crowd it just doesn't let you login or kicks you offline.

NovaShadow

SleepyTroll wrote: »

craybest wrote: »

there's no reason why we would have more lag. ESO already has ways in PVE to separate people to prevent too big of a crowd.

NO see that's where ur wrong. They took that out, if there is too big of a crowd it just doesn't let you login or kicks you offline.

There's a lot of people who cannot grasp this and constantly say there's no lag in PVE and it won't change.

They don't understand what's already happening and how it's getting worse and will be impossible when TO launches.

SanSan

One Tamriel is a really stupid idea if they are getting rid of Alliances. They already ruined Dark Elves with the racial changes cuz of lore. Aren't they suppose to be only good with fire?
It's just...whatever now.

AzraelKrieg

SanSan wrote: »

One Tamriel is a really stupid idea if they are getting rid of Alliances. They already ruined Dark Elves with the racial changes cuz of lore. Aren't they suppose to be only good with fire?
It's just...whatever now.

Alliances will remain intact. Just they will only apply in PvP.

inflaburwb17_ESO

This sounds very Guild Wars 2 - esque.

BruhItsOver9000

Goodbye mournhold when one tamriel drops, rivenspire here i come.

inflaburwb17_ESO

From what I've read, I oppose the idea of One Tamriel. I don't know why ZOS would want to do something so dramatic, since I've read nothing but their sales pitch announcements and press releases regarding One Tamriel.

Don't get rid of the Alliance/faction areas in PVE. Open the borders if you want, but leave faction zones in place. Let guards attack non-faction players on sight, forcing players to change their playing style should they wish to cross border, ie more sneaking, travelling in group... that sort of thing.

Lolssi

I better finish Gold before One Tamriel comes then.

jeedrzej

I have no idea why people are thinking it will change something with lags...
"Instancing" is really happening now. Have yo never notice that sometimes you and your friend are on the same map but you cant see each other? Becouse he is on other INSTANCE. Same will be with One Tamriel.

There will be more people on map, but the same amount in instance. And only people in the same instance with you, cause your lags.

starkerealm

SanSan wrote: »

One Tamriel is a really stupid idea if they are getting rid of Alliances. They already ruined Dark Elves with the racial changes cuz of lore. Aren't they suppose to be only good with fire?
It's just...whatever now.

No... They're supposed to be resistant to fire. Not quite the same thing.

probablyafk

At first I liked the idea of OT but then, on reflection, I realised that leveling up each faction was kind of fun. I don't think the new player experience will be nearly as story driven with OT which will probably make a lot of potential new players (or existing but slower/irratic plahyers) spend less time with the game.

Waseem

I dont trust the coders who had problems coding ESO's anniversary cake properly to deliver "One Tamriel" with less than 2016 bugs.. Yep.. If ZOS deliver one tamriel with a sum of bugs less than the current year, i will be amazed

Lysette

probablyafk wrote: »

At first I liked the idea of OT but then, on reflection, I realised that leveling up each faction was kind of fun. I don't think the new player experience will be nearly as story driven with OT which will probably make a lot of potential new players (or existing but slower/irratic plahyers) spend less time with the game.

And what does it matter if they spend less time - as long as they do that over a long period of time and subscribe. I might score about 700 hrs/year - an amount which some people have in 3 months or even less. But I am subbed for all the time, it does not matter that I play a lot less than others - but when I play, I want to play in the way I want and not be imprisoned in a couple of starter zones - but I want the freedom to go wherever I want and enjoy the world of Tamriel - if I make a lot of XP with it or not is not even important - but I want to enjoy the game, and not be forced to stay in a very limited area.

This said: story-driven is not my thing - I like some story and to read some books in the world though - but I am mainly here to experience the landscape and different cultural aspects of Tamriel. This is like visiting foreign countries in real life - I am not much into gaining XP as well, because it will take me anyway ages to progress - it does not matter to me - I want to enjoy the open world of Tamriel. And One Tamriel will deliver that.

Edit: well, with 700 hrs/year I stated my total time gaming - just part of it is spent on ESO - I cannot say how much, but it might be a quarter of that, which I spend in ESO.

Toc de Malsvi

jeedrzej wrote: »

I have no idea why people are thinking it will change something with lags...
"Instancing" is really happening now. Have yo never notice that sometimes you and your friend are on the same map but you cant see each other? Becouse he is on other INSTANCE. Same will be with One Tamriel.

There will be more people on map, but the same amount in instance. And only people in the same instance with you, cause your lags.

This issue is that instancing is already failing, that performance especially on console is already garbage. That the real literal response from ZOS for constant disconnects for characters in Orsinium or Elden Root is "Just don't go there until SoH drops on console".

Tandor

I suspect that for most players it will make no difference other than that they will be able to dip in and out of the DLC content without over-leveling their base game content which is the biggest problem at the moment. The number of players who will want to tear up the different factions and play cross-alliance base game content will be small, especially in relation to new players. The number of players who want to switch from one alliance zone to another to meet up with friends will similarly be small.

Moreover, for every e.g AD player who decides to level up in EP there will be an EP player who decides to level up in AD, so it won't alter the population balance unduly. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that the entire server population will suddenly decide to go to one FOTM location such as Mournhold, and if it did then instancing would deal with any over-crowding/performance issues.

Lysette

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

jeedrzej wrote: »

I have no idea why people are thinking it will change something with lags...
"Instancing" is really happening now. Have yo never notice that sometimes you and your friend are on the same map but you cant see each other? Becouse he is on other INSTANCE. Same will be with One Tamriel.

There will be more people on map, but the same amount in instance. And only people in the same instance with you, cause your lags.

This issue is that instancing is already failing, that performance especially on console is already garbage. That the real literal response from ZOS for constant disconnects for characters in Orsinium or Elden Root is "Just don't go there until SoH drops on console".

But that is a console issue - on PC the performance in PvE territory is very good - I have mainly around 80 fps on highest graphic setting - just in crowded cities it goes down to about 40-45 fps - which is still good.

When I teleport to Elden Root it takes a couple of seconds until I see the NPC visitor group with the NPC guide, who is explaining features and locations in the Elden Root Tree, but otherwise the game is very responsive and I can immediately mount my guar and sprint away.

Lysette

Tandor wrote: »

I suspect that for most players it will make no difference other than that they will be able to dip in and out of the DLC content without over-leveling their base game content which is the biggest problem at the moment. The number of players who will want to tear up the different factions and play cross-alliance base game content will be small, especially in relation to new players. The number of players who want to switch from one alliance zone to another to meet up with friends will similarly be small.

Moreover, for every e.g AD player who decides to level up in EP there will be an EP player who decides to level up in AD, so it won't alter the population balance unduly. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that the entire server population will suddenly decide to go to one FOTM location such as Mournhold, and if it did then instancing would deal with any over-crowding/performance issues.

At first there will be a lot of cross-border movement - me for example, I do not use sky-shard add-on - and one of the first things I will do, when One Tamriel is live is go with my characters to the other 2 alliance territories and grab those skyshards where I know already where they are - otherwise I will have to explore to find them, but this will be my reason to immediately spend time in other faction territories.

James-Wayne

One Tamriel is well overdue, bring it on!!

Tandor

Lysette wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I suspect that for most players it will make no difference other than that they will be able to dip in and out of the DLC content without over-leveling their base game content which is the biggest problem at the moment. The number of players who will want to tear up the different factions and play cross-alliance base game content will be small, especially in relation to new players. The number of players who want to switch from one alliance zone to another to meet up with friends will similarly be small.

Moreover, for every e.g AD player who decides to level up in EP there will be an EP player who decides to level up in AD, so it won't alter the population balance unduly. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that the entire server population will suddenly decide to go to one FOTM location such as Mournhold, and if it did then instancing would deal with any over-crowding/performance issues.

At first there will be a lot of cross-border movement - me for example, I do not use sky-shard add-on - and one of the first things I will do, when One Tamriel is live is go with my characters to the other 2 alliance territories and grab those skyshards where I know already where they are - otherwise I will have to explore to find them, but this will be my reason to immediately spend time in other faction territories.

That's a perfectly fair point and I may well do the same, but won't the majority of players already have those skyshards from doing Cadwells? As long-term players who have taken our time leveling slowly through the game you and I are in a very small minority !

Lysette

Tandor wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I suspect that for most players it will make no difference other than that they will be able to dip in and out of the DLC content without over-leveling their base game content which is the biggest problem at the moment. The number of players who will want to tear up the different factions and play cross-alliance base game content will be small, especially in relation to new players. The number of players who want to switch from one alliance zone to another to meet up with friends will similarly be small.

Moreover, for every e.g AD player who decides to level up in EP there will be an EP player who decides to level up in AD, so it won't alter the population balance unduly. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that the entire server population will suddenly decide to go to one FOTM location such as Mournhold, and if it did then instancing would deal with any over-crowding/performance issues.

At first there will be a lot of cross-border movement - me for example, I do not use sky-shard add-on - and one of the first things I will do, when One Tamriel is live is go with my characters to the other 2 alliance territories and grab those skyshards where I know already where they are - otherwise I will have to explore to find them, but this will be my reason to immediately spend time in other faction territories.

That's a perfectly fair point and I may well do the same, but won't the majority of players already have those skyshards from doing Cadwells? As long-term players who have taken our time leveling slowly through the game you and I are in a very small minority !

I cannot tell, I am playing the game in a roleplay way - I explore and look out for white beams and when I think I see one, I try to get there - this is more fun than to have an add-on which points me there. I mean, if I would just use such an add-on, what is the point of exploration then?- It just points me to where the goodies are and that's it - all the excitement of exploration is lost. Now with One Tamriel the quest is, will I recall all the locations where skyshards are in those other territories - it has been a while, I might have forgotten where some are.

Lysette

And otherwise - vacation time in Tamriel - I can finally do sightseeing - this will keep me busy for quite a while. There are so many locations which I have seen in videos, where I always thought "awesome, I have to go there and see it by myself" - much like traveling is in real life - I like to see other countries and experience different cultures in real life - and so is One Tamriel for me then - an invitation to do sightseeing and be in awe of the world ZOS has created for us - I am looking forward to that.

maboleth

One Tamriel is something that should have been from the beginning, BUT never is too late. OT will finally close the gap between other ES games, with scaled content and border-less playing. I can't wait!

Lysette, I agree with you about landscapes and skyshards 10000%. I play riddles to find them. They are great and require a bit of imagination. Much more fun than "cheating" with addons.

Tandor

maboleth wrote: »

One Tamriel is something that should have been from the beginning, BUT never is too late. OT will finally close the gap between other ES games, with scaled content and border-less playing. I can't wait!

Lysette, I agree with you about landscapes and skyshards 10000%. I play riddles to find them. They are great and require a bit of imagination. Much more fun than "cheating" with addons.

Agreed. I don't use a single addon in this or any Bethesda game, the only exception being Fallout New Vegas where I used one that improved the "over the shoulder" camera angle. I tried one in Skyrim and rejected it, and haven't tried any in Fallout 4 or ESO. That said, when I have completely cleared a zone in ESO if I have any outstanding skyshards the location of which has completely stumped me then I will have a cryptic sort of look at a website map to get an idea where I should be looking.

Also, I haven't yet done Cadwells on any of my characters because I've been taking my time since PC launch just so that I could avoid its lore-breaking quests, do the other alliance areas with other characters from those alliances and hit high levels when there is alternative high level content to do as is now the case.

maboleth

Tandor wrote: »

That said, when I have completely cleared a zone in ESO if I have any outstanding skyshards the location of which has completely stumped me then I will have a cryptic sort of look at a website map to get an idea where I should be looking.

Well, that's exactly when riddles can kick in. When you have seen the zone, know the places, the riddles make so much more sense and are a great challenge.

Skinzz

U know they had to make one tamriel because the game is dying.

kevlarto_ESO

Is one Tameriel when ESO goes free to play ? the last name change the game went Buy to play, just wondering.

I will have to see how it plays out, but my gut feeling tells me, I got a bad feeling about this, I really don't care to quest with my enemies from pvp in pve. I guess time will tell, it just keeps getting closer for that time for me to find a new game.

Lolssi

Tandor wrote: »

Also, I haven't yet done Cadwells on any of my characters because I've been taking my time since PC launch just so that I could avoid its lore-breaking quests, do the other alliance areas with other characters from those alliances and hit high levels when there is alternative high level content to do as is now the case.

I'm not lore expert but what I gathered from doing Cadwell's Silver and Gold you're basically dreaming how it would have been had you woken up somewhere else. It doesn't mean what you actually experience happened that way (even if they mostly did).
I still try to play it as Dominion agent and try to cause as much harm to the other factions that I can with quest decisions and assasinating npcs.
If you ment something other with lore breaking then my bad

SantieClaws

Khajiit does not believe Tamriel is in trouble.

After all we have had Tamriel Unlimited and are soon to get One Tamriel.

There is still in development Tamriel Unleashed, Tamriel: The Next Generation, Tamriel Squad, Tamriel - Masters of the Universe, Tamriel Go, Tamriel Hills and Tamriel the Breakfast Cereal.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws