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Dawnguard

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I have to ask ( ZOS ) if Dawnguard is in the making for a future DLC in the Elder Scrolls Universe.
Edited by Inhuman003 on July 28, 2016 9:49PM
  • starkerealm
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    As far as I know, ZOS has never said anything on the subject. I think the flavor text for Silver Bolts mentions them, though, so they might add it in someday.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).
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    IT would be nice if ZoS do because of the lore and the true story behind the lore of the vampires.
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are. But, you know... A couple vampire motifs, maybe a dawnguard motif and a separate generic monster hunter motif could be cool.

    In seriousness though, the implication from Silver Bolts is, that the Dawnguard already exists in this era. Initially, I wasn't thrilled when people mentioned them, but gradually, over time, I've come around. We might see them featured into content, particularly if there's more monster focused content in the future.

    Also, The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are. But, you know... A couple vampire motifs, maybe a dawnguard motif and a separate generic monster hunter motif could be cool.

    In seriousness though, the implication from Silver Bolts is, that the Dawnguard already exists in this era. Initially, I wasn't thrilled when people mentioned them, but gradually, over time, I've come around. We might see them featured into content, particularly if there's more monster focused content in the future.

    Also, The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.

    Fort Dawnguard in Skyrim: Dawnguard was said to have been built in the 2nd era by a Jarl of Riften to contain his vampire son with the help of the Dawnguard so there was already precedent in the lore before ESO was released.
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are. But, you know... A couple vampire motifs, maybe a dawnguard motif and a separate generic monster hunter motif could be cool.

    In seriousness though, the implication from Silver Bolts is, that the Dawnguard already exists in this era. Initially, I wasn't thrilled when people mentioned them, but gradually, over time, I've come around. We might see them featured into content, particularly if there's more monster focused content in the future.

    Also, The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.

    I have hoped since the beginning that each type of Were would match the race, with Wolves being universial.

    Example: Argonian - Were crocodile
    Nord - Were bear
    And so on.
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    Eirikir wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are. But, you know... A couple vampire motifs, maybe a dawnguard motif and a separate generic monster hunter motif could be cool.

    In seriousness though, the implication from Silver Bolts is, that the Dawnguard already exists in this era. Initially, I wasn't thrilled when people mentioned them, but gradually, over time, I've come around. We might see them featured into content, particularly if there's more monster focused content in the future.

    Also, The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.

    I have hoped since the beginning that each type of Were would match the race, with Wolves being universial.

    Example: Argonian - Were crocodile
    Nord - Were bear
    And so on.

    Werecrocodiles and maybe werelions are the only flavors that are actually race locked, at least in the lore. I honestly can't remember if the werelions are khajiit only or not. Things like Werebears or Werevultures are universal, just like Wolves. But, their native habitats are much smaller. So you're less likely to encounter them wandering around unless you're in the right province.

    Of course, Wereboars were bugged in Daggerfall, as I recall, so the player couldn't become one, even though it was supposed to be possible.
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are.

    A Lycan is a Werewolf, and the other term he meant to say was Draugr, which is an undead Nord you find in Skyrim tombs.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are.

    A Lycan is a Werewolf, and the other term he meant to say was Draugr, which is an undead Nord you find in Skyrim tombs.

    ._.

    Okay, so I'm going to have to explain this?

    Really?

    @Inhuman003 misspelled Dawnguard. You can check the topic name if you want to see it. @Forestd16b14_ESO, corrected his spelling, but then botched the spelling of Draugr, and possibly lycan. Which is more significant because a lycan isn't a werewolf, it's just the Greek word for wolf. A lycanthrope is a werewolf. A lycan is a non-supernatural wolf. Still with me? Cool.

    Amusingly enough, if you look back at the Underworld films, there's a pretty decent chance the "Lycan" name there was intended as a pejorative.

    So, then I snarked at @Forestd16b14_ESO's spelling error/typos, without reciprocating.

    Also, Draugr were originally undead Nord that had committed cannibalism and were subject to some kind of curse, which turned them into ravenous zombie things. Skyrim chucked that, and turned them into basically, standard flavor zombies. With a side of Dragon Magic because nothing says standard-fantasy-setting like dragon magic.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are.

    A Lycan is a Werewolf, and the other term he meant to say was Draugr, which is an undead Nord you find in Skyrim tombs.

    ._.

    Okay, so I'm going to have to explain this?

    Really?

    @Inhuman003 misspelled Dawnguard. You can check the topic name if you want to see it. @Forestd16b14_ESO, corrected his spelling, but then botched the spelling of Draugr, and possibly lycan. Which is more significant because a lycan isn't a werewolf, it's just the Greek word for wolf. A lycanthrope is a werewolf. A lycan is a non-supernatural wolf. Still with me? Cool.

    Amusingly enough, if you look back at the Underworld films, there's a pretty decent chance the "Lycan" name there was intended as a pejorative.

    So, then I snarked at @Forestd16b14_ESO's spelling error/typos, without reciprocating.

    Also, Draugr were originally undead Nord that had committed cannibalism and were subject to some kind of curse, which turned them into ravenous zombie things. Skyrim chucked that, and turned them into basically, standard flavor zombies. With a side of Dragon Magic because nothing says standard-fantasy-setting like dragon magic.

    Yes............. Silver steaks for every one !
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are.

    A Lycan is a Werewolf, and the other term he meant to say was Draugr, which is an undead Nord you find in Skyrim tombs.

    ._.

    Okay, so I'm going to have to explain this?

    Really?

    @Inhuman003 misspelled Dawnguard. You can check the topic name if you want to see it. @Forestd16b14_ESO, corrected his spelling, but then botched the spelling of Draugr, and possibly lycan. Which is more significant because a lycan isn't a werewolf, it's just the Greek word for wolf. A lycanthrope is a werewolf. A lycan is a non-supernatural wolf. Still with me? Cool.

    Amusingly enough, if you look back at the Underworld films, there's a pretty decent chance the "Lycan" name there was intended as a pejorative.

    So, then I snarked at @Forestd16b14_ESO's spelling error/typos, without reciprocating.

    Also, Draugr were originally undead Nord that had committed cannibalism and were subject to some kind of curse, which turned them into ravenous zombie things. Skyrim chucked that, and turned them into basically, standard flavor zombies. With a side of Dragon Magic because nothing says standard-fantasy-setting like dragon magic.

    Yes............. Silver steaks for every one !

    You sir, deserve a silver steak. You got me to look and make sure I didn't mistype silver stakes as silver steaks. :p
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    It would be great if there was a DLC in the future for the "good" heroes.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    I don't know what those Lycin or Draugher things are.

    A Lycan is a Werewolf, and the other term he meant to say was Draugr, which is an undead Nord you find in Skyrim tombs.

    ._.

    Okay, so I'm going to have to explain this?

    Really?

    @Inhuman003 misspelled Dawnguard. You can check the topic name if you want to see it. @Forestd16b14_ESO, corrected his spelling, but then botched the spelling of Draugr, and possibly lycan. Which is more significant because a lycan isn't a werewolf, it's just the Greek word for wolf. A lycanthrope is a werewolf. A lycan is a non-supernatural wolf. Still with me? Cool.

    Amusingly enough, if you look back at the Underworld films, there's a pretty decent chance the "Lycan" name there was intended as a pejorative.

    So, then I snarked at @Forestd16b14_ESO's spelling error/typos, without reciprocating.

    Also, Draugr were originally undead Nord that had committed cannibalism and were subject to some kind of curse, which turned them into ravenous zombie things. Skyrim chucked that, and turned them into basically, standard flavor zombies. With a side of Dragon Magic because nothing says standard-fantasy-setting like dragon magic.

    Yes............. Silver steaks for every one !

    You sir, deserve a silver steak. You got me to look and make sure I didn't mistype silver stakes as silver steaks. :p

    Steaks.jpg

    Come now who doesn't want a silver steak like this.
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    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    Never heard of Dawnruard but have heard of Draugher? Criticizing someone's spelling and then making the exact same error. Just found it interesting.
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    bryanhaas wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    Never heard of Dawnruard but have heard of Draugher? Criticizing someone's spelling and then making the exact same error. Just found it interesting.

    And I find people who point out obvious stuff that no one cares about then to act like a spelling teacher interesting.

    Also wasn't criticizing any one about any spelling you people are.

    Here's the joke since some people don't get it. He asked about the Dawngruard and if you asked any one in Tamerial they will say "I never heard of them, but I have heard of the Dawnguard". It's called lore and humor. I meant nothing by it but apparently you do.

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    bryanhaas wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    Never heard of Dawnruard but have heard of Draugher? Criticizing someone's spelling and then making the exact same error. Just found it interesting.

    And I find people who point out obvious stuff that no one cares about then to act like a spelling teacher interesting.

    Also wasn't criticizing any one about any spelling you people are.

    Here's the joke since some people don't get it. He asked about the Dawngruard and if you asked any one in Tamerial they will say "I never heard of them, but I have heard of the Dawnguard". It's called lore and humor. I meant nothing by it but apparently you do.

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    bryanhaas wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    Never heard of Dawnruard but have heard of Draugher? Criticizing someone's spelling and then making the exact same error. Just found it interesting.

    Stahp stealin' mah jokes. :(
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    Dawnguard, the vampire hunter Mel Adrys appear in Elder Scrolls Online twice. The vampire hunter started in the quest: Mist and Shadow and the dark brotherhood gold coast quest: The Vampire's Prey. Is this the start of Dawnguard. I'm just saying it would be nice to see vampire hunter Mel Adrys of a Main storyline title of his own.
    Edited by Inhuman003 on July 30, 2016 5:04PM
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Dawnguard, the vampire hunter Mel Adrys appear in Elder Scrolls Online twice. The vampire hunter started in the quest: Mist and Shadow and the dark brotherhood gold coast quest: The Vampire's Prey. Is this the start of Dawnguard. I'm just saying it would be nice to see vampire hunter Mel Adrys of a Main storyline title of his own.

    Is there anything that actually ties Mel Adrys to the Dawnguard specifically? I'm asking, because my impression was that Adrys was simply a freelance vampire hunter, such things do exist in TES.
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    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.
    Edited by Inhuman003 on July 30, 2016 7:40PM
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    The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.

    Non-wolf shifters prefer the term 'therianthrope' to 'lycanthrope'...
    ummm... not that I personally shift into a grey squirrel or anything!
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    Pheefs wrote: »
    The Elder Scrolls uses the term Lycanthropy indiscriminately for all of Hercine's werebeasts. It would be neat to see other varieties available, such as the Werebears, or Wereboars, with distinct stats and abilities.

    Non-wolf shifters prefer the term 'therianthrope' to 'lycanthrope'...
    ummm... not that I personally shift into a grey squirrel or anything!
    ;)

    The term I learned was "changing breeds." :p

    Off hand, the lycanthropy varities of Tamriel are:

    Werewolves (TES2, TES3: Bloodmoon, TES5) (everywhere)
    Wereboars (TES2l) (High Rock)
    Werelions (mention only) (Elsweyr) (Khajiit only, maybe?)
    Werecrocodiles (mention only) (Black Marsh) (Argonians only)
    Werevultures (mention only) (Valenwood)
    Werebats (TESO) (Valenwood) (I could be misremembering this one being a thing, though...)
    Werebears (TES5: Dragonborn) (Skyrim)
    Weresharks (mention only, not confirmed) (unknown)

    As far as I remember, Cyrodiil, Hammerfell, The Summerset Isles, and Morrowind do not have any native strains of lycanthropy unique to them. I also might be forgetting a few. And it's possible that Bethesda could choose to add more strains in the future, like werejackals or werealits.
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.

    he isn't the only vampire hunter.... there are those guys near gil-var-del in grahtwood - though they aren't as professional granted.
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.

    he isn't the only vampire hunter.... there are those guys near gil-var-del in grahtwood - though they aren't as professional granted.

    As I recall, those are Buoyant Armigers. They're a small militant sect of the Tribunal Temple. But, it's been nearly two years since I ran the quests there, so I could be remembering that wrong.
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.

    he isn't the only vampire hunter.... there are those guys near gil-var-del in grahtwood - though they aren't as professional granted.

    As I recall, those are Buoyant Armigers. They're a small militant sect of the Tribunal Temple. But, it's been nearly two years since I ran the quests there, so I could be remembering that wrong.

    now you've got me wondering. as i recall you kill a few blood fiends in the area and, i think, its a nord asks you if you want to do some real vampire slaying and that keys the quest. going to have to google buoyant armigers...
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.

    he isn't the only vampire hunter.... there are those guys near gil-var-del in grahtwood - though they aren't as professional granted.

    As I recall, those are Buoyant Armigers. They're a small militant sect of the Tribunal Temple. But, it's been nearly two years since I ran the quests there, so I could be remembering that wrong.

    now you've got me wondering. as i recall you kill a few blood fiends in the area and, i think, its a nord asks you if you want to do some real vampire slaying and that keys the quest. going to have to google buoyant armigers...

    Oh, yeah; no, you're thinking of the orc stronghold that's been overrun with vampires. Gil-Var-Delle is the Bosmer settlement to the south of it that has a daedric anchor being set up there.
    Edited by starkerealm on July 30, 2016 8:25PM
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    Inhuman003 wrote: »
    Good question, the answer is why is Mel Adrys the only vampire hunter in Tamriel and that's why I entitled him to Dawnguard and I'm wrong for that although it looks the way it looks.

    he isn't the only vampire hunter.... there are those guys near gil-var-del in grahtwood - though they aren't as professional granted.

    As I recall, those are Buoyant Armigers. They're a small militant sect of the Tribunal Temple. But, it's been nearly two years since I ran the quests there, so I could be remembering that wrong.

    now you've got me wondering. as i recall you kill a few blood fiends in the area and, i think, its a nord asks you if you want to do some real vampire slaying and that keys the quest. going to have to google buoyant armigers...

    Oh, yeah; no, you're thinking of the orc stronghold that's been overrun with vampires. Gil-Var-Delle is the Bosmer settlement to the south of it that has a daedric anchor being set up there.

    yeah you are right. i couldn't think of the name of the place but i remembered gil-var-del being close(ish) to it. and i think thats where the Buoyant Armigers guy is.
    Edited by jedtb16_ESO on July 30, 2016 8:30PM
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    I agree with the OP here. I would just love a Dawnguard themed DLC. It would be a change in tone to the preceeding two DLCs. The Fighter's Guild are mercenaries that happen to be serving the common good due to their benefactor. It would be nice to have a new DLC that focused on one of the Holy Orders, or similar
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    bryanhaas wrote: »
    Well I never heard of this Dawngruard but Dawnguard on the other hand could be a possibility since the order was founded during the 2nd ear via Riftens Jarl. So we could see the creation of Dawnguard and maybe some Vampiric and Lycin styles motifs (and hopefully Draugher style or Ancient Nord styles since it takes place in Skyrim).

    Never heard of Dawnruard but have heard of Draugher? Criticizing someone's spelling and then making the exact same error. Just found it interesting.

    And I find people who point out obvious stuff that no one cares about then to act like a spelling teacher interesting.

    Also wasn't criticizing any one about any spelling you people are.

    Here's the joke since some people don't get it. He asked about the Dawngruard and if you asked any one in Tamerial they will say "I never heard of them, but I have heard of the Dawnguard". It's called lore and humor. I meant nothing by it but apparently you do.

    Ef ot wuz mante es satire thon porhups u shode reete #satire
    Udderwize ot is herd to toll ef u er insulting te OP er merking a joke.

    #satire
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    Yes, but only if we get to see lord harkon.
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