[Noob question] What are Trails and how they differ from instance duengons

KimoBitz

So Actully I have two questions

1-The first which is above in the title thread
2-what are the duengon types and how they differ from one another

jeedrzej

You mean Trials?

Well you need 12 people to finish them.
Bosses are stronger etc. And there is better loot.
And there are only 4 trials in game.

Panth141

Dungeon Types

• Delves (Non-instanced) - These look like a little torch on your map. These are of fixed level depending on the level of the zone - they are scaled to be doable solo. All delves contain a boss and a skyshard. 7 per zone, IIRC.
  
• Public Dungeons (Non-instanced) - These look like little rocky doorways. Again, levelled based on the zone. Balanced for a small group, but they can be entered (and completed, if your character is somewhat decent) solo fairly simply. Contain multiple bosses including a group event, which gives a skill point for completion. Also contains a skyshard. 1 per zone.
  
• Dungeons - (Instanced) - These are four man group dungeons, they are generally scaled to CP160, and non CP160 characters will be scaled up. I'm not sure if these can still be scaled down to group leader? All dungeons have normal modes, many have veteran modes. They're balanced for a four man group (typically 2xDPS, 1xTank, 1xHealer), doable with smaller groups of competent players. Dungeons are significantly harder than the previous types, containing multiple bosses, better loot and a skill-point quest. Undaunted pledges require the completion of a specific dungeon; a further criterion must be fulfilled in veteran dungeons to obtain the gold key reward. 1 per zone.
  
• Craglorn Group Delves - (can't remember...) - Unique to the Craglorn zone, these look like a Delve torch with a '+' by it. These are harder than typical delves and are balanced around a small group.
  
• Trials - (Instanced) - Symbol looks like some kind of demonic doorway. Significantly harder instanced content, scaled around a 12-man group. Normal and veteran modes are available for some (more coming next patch). Normal mode is somewhat doable by a decent group - veteran and 'hard mode' requires a more competent group, versed in the art of running trials. Trials have associated leaderboards that give rewards on a weekly basis.
  
• Other - (Instanced) - Maelstrom Arena in Wrothgar has a Trial-like symbol on the map. This is a single-player 'arena' with both normal and veteran modes, it scales to your level. Dragonstar Arena is a four-man arena, with multiple stages, that is getting updated to CP160 next patch. I don't remember what it looks like on the map - maybe like a crumbling tower? Located in north-west Craglorn, has both normal and veteran modes
  
  

jeedrzej

Types of dungeons...
You ask for veteran/normal diffrences or group/public/delve etc?

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

jeedrzej wrote: »

You mean Trials?

Well you need 12 people to finish them.
Bosses are stronger ect. And there is better loot.
And there are only 4 trials in game.

Since you are correcting spelling...it's etc. not ect.

Trials are timed 12 man leader board dungeons. The faster you run it and the less deaths there are during the run the better your score. There is a weekly trial and if you get on the leader board you will also receive a mail at the end of the week with a gold set piece in it.

Gargath

I can compare trials and dungeons in this way - in group dungeons you just push forward killing everything on your path the sooner the better, you can do it with 3 dps and healer without tank too; when in trial you need to use proper tactic, skills and have enough people and roles (proper number of tanks, healers and dps, group of 12 players), otherwise you die quickly and run is painful.

jeedrzej

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

Since you are correcting spelling...it's etc. not ect.

.

Thanks

failkiwib16_ESO

Our current list of trials:

• Aetherian Archives (12 mans dungeon)
• Hel Ra Citadel (12 mans dungeon)
• Sanctum of Ophidia (12 mans dungeon, exists in normal and veteran version, this trial scales to leaders level - only veteran version cp160 counts toward leaderboards)
• Dragonstar Arena (4 mans dungeon, exists in normal and veteran version - only veteran version cp140 counts toward leaderboards)
• Maelstrom Arena (1 mans dungeon, exists in normal and veteran version, this trial is in DLC area and you can get battlescaled if you are below cp160 - only veteran version cp160 counts toward leaderboards)
• Maw of Lorkhaj (12 mans dungeon, exists in normal and veteran version, this trial scales to leaders level - only veteran version cp160 counts toward leaderboards)

We will hopefully soon get normal version of Aetherian Archives and Hel Ra Citadel.

Despite that Sanctum of Ophidia is downscaleable to below level 50, it is not possible for anyone between level 1-49 to enter it, because it is located in Craglorn - a level 50+ only place. this part was wrong as proven below this post.

The Uninvited

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Despite that Sanctum of Ophidia is downscaleable to below level 50, it is not possible for anyone between level 1-49 to enter it, because it is located in Craglorn - a level 50+ only place.

Did enter it with a level 49 perfectly fine.

failkiwib16_ESO

The Uninvited wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Despite that Sanctum of Ophidia is downscaleable to below level 50, it is not possible for anyone between level 1-49 to enter it, because it is located in Craglorn - a level 50+ only place.

Did enter it with a level 49 perfectly fine.

whut ....non veteran in Craglorn O_O

Foxic

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

Despite that Sanctum of Ophidia is downscaleable to below level 50, it is not possible for anyone between level 1-49 to enter it, because it is located in Craglorn - a level 50+ only place.

Did enter it with a level 49 perfectly fine.

whut ....non veteran in Craglorn O_O

You should be able to port directly into it at any level

failkiwib16_ESO

Ah oki, thanks for explaining that, I actually didn't knew. I thought the dungeon could be downscaled, but not that the dungeon could be accessible by non vets O.o

KimoBitz

Panth141 wrote: »

Dungeon Types

• Delves (Non-instanced) - These look like a little torch on your map. These are of fixed level depending on the level of the zone - they are scaled to be doable solo. All delves contain a boss and a skyshard. 7 per zone, IIRC.
  
• Public Dungeons (Non-instanced) - These look like little rocky doorways. Again, levelled based on the zone. Balanced for a small group, but they can be entered (and completed, if your character is somewhat decent) solo fairly simply. Contain multiple bosses including a group event, which gives a skill point for completion. Also contains a skyshard. 1 per zone.
  
• Dungeons - (Instanced) - These are four man group dungeons, they are generally scaled to CP160, and non CP160 characters will be scaled up. I'm not sure if these can still be scaled down to group leader? All dungeons have normal modes, many have veteran modes. They're balanced for a four man group (typically 2xDPS, 1xTank, 1xHealer), doable with smaller groups of competent players. Dungeons are significantly harder than the previous types, containing multiple bosses, better loot and a skill-point quest. Undaunted pledges require the completion of a specific dungeon; a further criterion must be fulfilled in veteran dungeons to obtain the gold key reward. 1 per zone.
  
• Craglorn Group Delves - (can't remember...) - Unique to the Craglorn zone, these look like a Delve torch with a '+' by it. These are harder than typical delves and are balanced around a small group.
  
• Trials - (Instanced) - Symbol looks like some kind of demonic doorway. Significantly harder instanced content, scaled around a 12-man group. Normal and veteran modes are available for some (more coming next patch). Normal mode is somewhat doable by a decent group - veteran and 'hard mode' requires a more competent group, versed in the art of running trials. Trials have associated leaderboards that give rewards on a weekly basis.
  
• Other - (Instanced) - Maelstrom Arena in Wrothgar has a Trial-like symbol on the map. This is a single-player 'arena' with both normal and veteran modes, it scales to your level. Dragonstar Arena is a four-man arena, with multiple stages, that is getting updated to CP160 next patch. I don't remember what it looks like on the map - maybe like a crumbling tower? Located in north-west Craglorn, has both normal and veteran modes
  
  

Thanks dude that was pretty helpfull

EternalEther

veteran and 'hard mode'

Is there a difference between "veteran" and "hard mode"? I thought they were the same thing.

Bdawwg

I've always wanted to try trials, would it best to start off with The cp140 ones to get used to 12 man content then work to the cp160 ones?

starkerealm

Panth141 wrote: »

• Craglorn Group Delves - (can't remember...) - Unique to the Craglorn zone, these look like a Delve torch with a '+' by it. These are harder than typical delves and are balanced around a small group.

They're instanced, as I recall. But it's been nearly two years since I was in one.

HatchetHaro

For dungeons, if you queue through the in-game dungeon finder, it will be scaled to CP160.
However, if you form your own group, it will be scaled up to the group leader's level. If you're of a higher level than the group leader, you will not be scaled down. It makes for a really easy cheese method of simply completing dungeons for the quest and pledges, as you can group up with a low-leveled friend, make him/her leader, and just decimate the entire dungeon.

failkiwib16_ESO

hmm i also had to correct my own post, vDSA is cp140 scaled and not cp160. Next patch we will get it scaled to cp160 though