Positive PUG Experience

imnotanother

I know we always hear the horror stories about PUGs on this forum. I just wanted to share my experience running the Gold Pledge in Veteran Imperial City Prison.( PS4)

I was the only member to have completed the dungeon before. I didn't know this at first and I believe the others were afraid to admit it (thinking they would be kicked - my assumption). We cleared the first boss but when it came time to throw those stupid boogers, I could tell that the other members were struggling with the mechanics.

I started to explain the stages of the mechanics and what to look for to everyone. Only 2 of the other 3 were in the group. The other DPS claimed to not have a mic and didn't want to use the Group Chat to listen.
We struggled a bit but the 3 of us talking, coordinated well with throwing the grenades and taking out boss 2. I remember a time when this was the end of most PUG runs...

We went on, killed every mob because the DPS not in chat jumped the gun on everything. Cleared the mini bosses in between with only a few revives needed.

When we finally were at the last boss. We struggled very hard with the Portals because the member not listening was avoiding them and we would have to revive everytime. We made our pleas to join the chat. He.She refused, so we voted to kick.

We picked up another DPS. It was also his first time every trying the dungeon but he ran all the way to the last boss. We explained the mechanics. We had to wipe 3 times but then we nailed it. They all 3 were able to get a skill point for the quest, 2 Gold keys, and I even got a Lovely Training Helm haha.

It was not what I wanted to go through today to get the 2 keys but it felt good at the end when the 3 thanked me for being Patient and Helpful.
Now I am not looking for a pat on the back(or awesomes and Agrees) but I just wanted to share this story for the readers who are "Afraid to do dungeons" because they believe everyone is not willing to help newer players learn the mechanics.

Thanks for reading everyone and hope your next PUG goes smooth!

ScottK1994

Well in my experience random dungeons have been good; it's just certain ones like Imperial Dungeons that tanks and healers will leave instantly or I'll be kicked haha. I'd understand being kicked on vet because I hadn't even done the normal version but I don't think I queued for that(though I usually queue for random veteran too)

And also I think there's a lot of complaints about pugs because of the bugs allowing players to disband and the punishments for being kicked etc

altemriel

I usually do pledges with PUGs and I have no problem with it, usually we run it with no problem

but the truth is, that I usually only go for silver pledges, not gold

imnotanother

altemriel wrote: »

I usually do pledges with PUGs and I have no problem with it, usually we run it with no problem

but the truth is, that I usually only go for silver pledges, not gold

You should always go for gold.

raidentenshu_ESO

What the hell is a Pug? Besides this

ScottK1994

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

What the hell is a Pug? Besides this

Pick up group. How its described to find a group for dungeons etc with random players in the same queue.

SolarCat02

PUG = Pick Up Group

Basically, a group of people who don't know each other but wanted to do the dungeon, as opposed to a group of friends who already run things together.

nine9six

I run with PUGs very frequently (I feel for them in Zone) and I'd say 98% of those runs have been pleasant. 1% was unpleasant due to bugs and 1% unpleasant due to "what do you mean, 'don't stand in red'?".

Zerok

The most annoying PUG you can get is the one who does not listen. Fortunately, they are quite rare.

I remember this guy who kept asking me to run repentance in my healer rotation. The guy got so angry about it and kept asking for it.

I told him it was impossible, but he kept asking for it.

He just would not understand that sorcerers don't have repentance.

Totalitarian

On 1st time clears, I feel as if what I type in chat starts to sound a bit angry, but I always make sure to throw in that I'm not angry with them. 1st timers are usually really nice, so I can't get mad at them.

I mean, I feel as if saying "You really have to keep track of where the portals are" over and over again makes me sound frustrated.

That being said, I generally run with PUGs every day for pledges, and I can do both of them <45 minutes for the most part. Sometimes you do get the 'standing in red' person, but other times, you might find yourself with Crown Store Heroes clearing the vCOA pledge.

wayfarerx

Zerok wrote: »

The most annoying PUG you can get is the one who does not listen. Fortunately, they are quite rare.

I remember this guy who kept asking me to run repentance in my healer rotation. The guy got so angry about it and kept asking for it.

I told him it was impossible, but he kept asking for it.

He just would not understand that sorcerers don't have repentance.

I've had this exact thing happen on my mageblade healer.

DD: Healer, I need stamina!
Me: Drink a ******* potion already!

Totalitarian

wayfarerx wrote: »

I've had this exact thing happen on my mageblade healer.

DD: Healer, I need stamina!
Me: Drink a ******* potion already!

Even as a Templar Healer, if someone wants stamina, they can feel free to run over to my Blazing Shards which is located right on top of the enemy, and they can grab it.

And whenever I cast Repentance, it's not for their stamina, it's so I don't have to use magicka for healing, or so I can get stamina back. Stamina for them just so happens to be an added bonus.


Saving those free Stamina or Magicka potions that drop from bosses are great for dungeons. I might go through 1 per dungeon on my healer because she's so magicka-flexible. DPS, maybe 2. So I end up with 10 stacks in my bank -_-

TheUrbanWizard

I'm CP390 and like to do random dungeons, normal or vet, but if I'm put in a group with 3 other 501s (or near enough) in a vet dungeon I've not done before, I leave asap, 'cos I KNOW I'm not gud enough for them.

People need to L2P, which I do, but I'm damned if I'm gonna spend my time looking at youtube guides and whatnot when all I want to do is play the game I love.

I also believe not using a mic is no reason to kick; there are many reasons why people don't. Not everyone can go to their bedroom and shut the door. Many people have other things going on in the home which makes talking to the TV a pain in the arse for the other family members.

ScottK1994

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

I'm CP390 and like to do random dungeons, normal or vet, but if I'm put in a group with 3 other 501s (or near enough) in a vet dungeon I've not done before, I leave asap, 'cos I KNOW I'm not gud enough for them.

People need to L2P, which I do, but I'm damned if I'm gonna spend my time looking at youtube guides and whatnot when all I want to do is play the game I love.

I also believe not using a mic is no reason to kick; there are many reasons why people don't. Not everyone can go to their bedroom and shut the door. Many people have other things going on in the home which makes talking to the TV a pain in the arse for the other family members.

Bro if you're 390CP they shouldn't be thinking you're not good enough. The way I understood it was that they dont like people less than 160

grom1024

I only run with PUG (silver, gold, random normal) with my tank 285. Everything is ok, unless it is low level group for random normal where some people do not listen to explanation of boss mechanics (the healball in BC is a regular problem in beginners group). High-CP groups are usually quite smooth as there is almost no need to coordinate the fight and they very rarely stay in red.

negbert

My 501 healer puged normal WGT yesterday. I always sigh a bit when I get it as my random. The other members of the group were below level 30 and had never done it before. The tank used 2hand and no taunts. It took a long time and a lot is rezzes but we got it done and I like to think they learned something from it.

disintegr8

Good job OP, it does feel like you have achieved something in these sort of situations.

I have never run all of ICP (vet or normal) as I only use PUG's. I got normal ICP once from randoms with my tank and the three in the group were on the final boss and had either lost or kicked their tank. I ran through the whole dungeon, avoiding the mobs they had left behind and with some directions from the others we completed it after a couple of wipes. Felt good.

Goes to show that PUG's can achieve things when they work together.

imnotanother

disintegr8 wrote: »

Good job OP, it does feel like you have achieved something in these sort of situations.

I have never run all of ICP (vet or normal) as I only use PUG's. I got normal ICP once from randoms with my tank and the three in the group were on the final boss and had either lost or kicked their tank. I ran through the whole dungeon, avoiding the mobs they had left behind and with some directions from the others we completed it after a couple of wipes. Felt good.

Goes to show that PUG's can achieve things when they work together.

Yes, how can anyone learn if they don't try and no one helps.

Flak

imnotanother wrote: »

We struggled a bit but the 3 of us talking, coordinated well with throwing the grenades and taking out boss 2. I remember a time when this was the end of most PUG runs...

Don't forget they nerfed vICP to the ground, it used to be a lot harder.
Other than that I agree, most pugs are nice people and happy when someone takes the time to explain.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Nice story, now let me tell the rest of you folks the reality of PUGs.

Today I qued the same dungeon as a Templar healer; 2 French, 1 german and 1 English (I know it sounds like a bad joke).
So we had 2 dps 501 cp - one average dps, the other heavy lightning attacks nothing more nothing less. Tank was 170 and he was Great I applaud him. Me as the healer had to dps more than the dps, give shards to tank and somehow keep the below average dps alive all while maintaining my magicka. Not an easy task.

2 hours 30 min in, we'd just beat the big flesh atro and then 2 French g2g, so german decides to go. End of group 2 hours 30 min gone. With lots of repairs gone in gold. I entered the group finder again, as I'm spawning in I see all 3 teammates die from first adds so I leave (to much time this takes with PUGs).

Very frustrating as 2hours 30 min is gone for nothing why couldn't the dungeon leave me in there and look for 3 more people???

Fruitmass

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

I'm CP390 and like to do random dungeons, normal or vet, but if I'm put in a group with 3 other 501s (or near enough) in a vet dungeon I've not done before, I leave asap, 'cos I KNOW I'm not gud enough for them.

People need to L2P, which I do, but I'm damned if I'm gonna spend my time looking at youtube guides and whatnot when all I want to do is play the game I love.

I also believe not using a mic is no reason to kick; there are many reasons why people don't. Not everyone can go to their bedroom and shut the door. Many people have other things going on in the home which makes talking to the TV a pain in the arse for the other family members.

Lol. Well, I'm CP576 and I always get a little self conscious about running groups regardless of everybody's level or how well I know the dungeon. What with first impressions being what they are and all

No but seriously, most of the people I've met while doing PuGs have been pretty easy going and polite and more often than not the dungeon gets done. It's not always fast or easy but it get's done.

I've had a lot of good times in PuGs. Learned quite a bit too. Made a fool of myself more often than I'd like to admit but in the end I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Why? Because it was fun. Had a lot of laughs over the past two years and even though there were times the group fell apart or couldn't finish the dungeon, even though sometimes somebody acted like a total butthole, even though there were times I got so mad I had to walk away from my computer lest I throw it out the window, I had fun. And that's why I'll keep PuGing. Because honestly, I love it.

Besides PuGings good practice. If you can get through a randomly chosen dungeon with a group composed of total strangers, all of varying levels of skill and experience and with little to no communication. You can handle most anything this game can throw at you.

CherryCake

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

What the hell is a Pug? Besides this

No no dont listen to them!!! A pug is just that what you showed

Kirameku

I remember how I launched veteran random dungeon search just for fun. I had almost no doubt that I'll find an unexp guys but actually I was ready to explain. I just hoped it wouldn't be CoA, ICP or WGT.
It was CoA.
I've thought ah, ok, let's try at least.
...
We made speed run and no death achievement.

KenaPKK

Build to solo the bosses, never have a bad pledge pug again. Gg

Ep1kMalware

imnotanother wrote: »

I know we always hear the horror stories about PUGs on this forum. I just wanted to share my experience running the Gold Pledge in Veteran Imperial City Prison.( PS4)

I was the only member to have completed the dungeon before. I didn't know this at first and I believe the others were afraid to admit it (thinking they would be kicked - my assumption). We cleared the first boss but when it came time to throw those stupid boogers, I could tell that the other members were struggling with the mechanics.

I started to explain the stages of the mechanics and what to look for to everyone. Only 2 of the other 3 were in the group. The other DPS claimed to not have a mic and didn't want to use the Group Chat to listen.
We struggled a bit but the 3 of us talking, coordinated well with throwing the grenades and taking out boss 2. I remember a time when this was the end of most PUG runs...

We went on, killed every mob because the DPS not in chat jumped the gun on everything. Cleared the mini bosses in between with only a few revives needed.

When we finally were at the last boss. We struggled very hard with the Portals because the member not listening was avoiding them and we would have to revive everytime. We made our pleas to join the chat. He.She refused, so we voted to kick.

We picked up another DPS. It was also his first time every trying the dungeon but he ran all the way to the last boss. We explained the mechanics. We had to wipe 3 times but then we nailed it. They all 3 were able to get a skill point for the quest, 2 Gold keys, and I even got a Lovely Training Helm haha.

It was not what I wanted to go through today to get the 2 keys but it felt good at the end when the 3 thanked me for being Patient and Helpful.
Now I am not looking for a pat on the back(or awesomes and Agrees) but I just wanted to share this story for the readers who are "Afraid to do dungeons" because they believe everyone is not willing to help newer players learn the mechanics.

Thanks for reading everyone and hope your next PUG goes smooth!

I love pugging this (and whitegold) and whipping out my hoarvar.

first pug group the other dps (stam nb) had low damage and the tank didn't know what ro do for any fights.

it took some esplaining of the mechanics (bashing, grenades, where to sit, sliming the atros) etd we got past it.

had to explain a coupke other bosses but we got through it with very little troubles.

Totalitarian

KenaPKK wrote: »

Build to solo the bosses, never have a bad pledge pug again. Gg

In vICP, you have to be ready to solo Lord Warden Dusk if the rest of your group wipes, because you're never getting them up again between portals, Dusk, and the stuff falling from the sky.

I've had to finish the guy off a good 3 times. But I'm a Templar, so it was kind of cheesy.

Ep1kMalware

Totalitarian wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Build to solo the bosses, never have a bad pledge pug again. Gg

In vICP, you have to be ready to solo Lord Warden Dusk if the rest of your group wipes, because you're never getting them up again between portals, Dusk, and the stuff falling from the sky.

I've had to finish the guy off a good 3 times. But I'm a Templar, so it was kind of cheesy.

yup, rally/vigor/purifying ritual. you don;t take much damage but the cc is INSANE. more often than not tou can get him to shade phase, kill a couple off amd get rezzes.

Mojmir

PUGS:

"a dream to some...A NIGHTMARE TO OTHERS!" -merlin