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Message to Zerg Trains

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Friendly message to our local neighborhood random Zerger. You are actually a very important part of Cyrodiil and many hardcore PVPers actually appreciate you. Without your contributions we couldn't do what's needed for the greater good across some areas of the map. While you're storming 85 people deep into a keep, it allows guys like me to take the resources for you quickly and quietly.

That said, please do yourself a favor.

Carry a few stone trebuchets.

There is nothing more disheartening than seeing a Zerg train run out of steam as 85 people set up 1 siege (generally a meatbag being shot at a door) while most of you get wiped while you're (I'm assuming) trying to carve your initials into a keep wall.

Please do yourself and your alliance a favor and pack a few stone trebs. It would be much appreciated.
  • Sandman929
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    Too many player forget this is supposed to be large scale combat, not TES: Tekken 1v1. But yes....if you're in a big group, please start sieging quickly (and if at all possible, on the same wall for starters), rather than just dancing around in front of the walls waiting to get cold-fired.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Why don't you just run in front of them an setup like 10 Trebs for them ? If you're really the l33t then you have to AP . Zergerz are broke all the time .
  • imnotanother
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    But please stay off my siege! I run 3-4 at a time. Will gladly set up more for you.

    I hate getting my rotation thrown off.
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  • Sandman929
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    Why don't you just run in front of them an setup like 10 Trebs for them ? If you're really the l33t then you have to AP . Zergerz are broke all the time .

    I might just start doing this, but I usually break off for the resources if the pack doesn't head that way. I'd happily set them up if I knew they'd use them but I'm worried that I'll come back to find them broken down and a pack of 20 still dancing in front of the walls.
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    Why don't you just run in front of them an setup like 10 Trebs for them ? If you're really the l33t then you have to AP . Zergerz are broke all the time .

    I generally carry 50+ seige on me at all times and have done what you say, many other times. Still, just wanted to point it out. If just one person learns the usefulness of doing so, it's worth the time of this post.
  • Sandman929
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    But please stay off my siege! I run 3-4 at a time. Will gladly set up more for you.

    I hate getting my rotation thrown off.

    Yeah...I sort of let that go, and now I'm just happy if whoever steals it fires the right way.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Why don't you just run in front of them an setup like 10 Trebs for them ? If you're really the l33t then you have to AP . Zergerz are broke all the time .

    I might just start doing this, but I usually break off for the resources if the pack doesn't head that way. I'd happily set them up if I knew they'd use them but I'm worried that I'll come back to find them broken down and a pack of 20 still dancing in front of the walls.

    Unfortunately this happens a lot. Do you know what Zergs love though ... FREE BATTERING RAMS!
  • Molag_Crow
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    Let's be honest as well, without zergs, Cyrodiil would be boring. I usually solo/play with a group of 2-10 players from time to time and defend, but as annoying and laggy as zergs can be, it spices things up big time. I wish lag weren't so heavy though.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Friendly message to our local neighborhood random Zerger. You are actually a very important part of Cyrodiil and many hardcore PVPers actually appreciate you. Without your contributions we couldn't do what's needed for the greater good across some areas of the map. While you're storming 85 people deep into a keep, it allows guys like me to take the resources for you quickly and quietly.

    That said, please do yourself a favor.

    Carry a few stone trebuchets.

    There is nothing more disheartening than seeing a Zerg train run out of steam as 85 people set up 1 siege (generally a meatbag being shot at a door) while most of you get wiped while you're (I'm assuming) trying to carve your initials into a keep wall.

    Please do yourself and your alliance a favor and pack a few stone trebs. It would be much appreciated.

    Why siege when you can run around spamming mutagen? That's much more helpful isn't it?
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  • Svenja
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    But please stay off my siege! I run 3-4 at a time. Will gladly set up more for you.

    I hate getting my rotation thrown off.

    Yeah...I sort of let that go, and now I'm just happy if whoever steals it fires the right way.

    Nah. To see people turn your stone treb to the opposite direction to fire at enemy players coming from behind on an open field is much more fun. #efficiency
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Why don't you just run in front of them an setup like 10 Trebs for them ? If you're really the l33t then you have to AP . Zergerz are broke all the time .

    I generally carry 50+ seige on me at all times and have done what you say, many other times. Still, just wanted to point it out. If just one person learns the usefulness of doing so, it's worth the time of this post.

    I just yell free trebs on the frontline , use them please . Or run these oils please . I know most Zerg players are either unguided , new to the campaign or just bored solo players . Most of those are just grinding alliance rank or trying to get free gear , and are usually not interested in the campaign , just the fight .

    If they started carrying siege it would be nice . I just don't expect it from them ever . So if you surf a Zerg and want to maximize distraction time , feed them siege and 23 scadoo .
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Friendly message to our local neighborhood random Zerger. You are actually a very important part of Cyrodiil and many hardcore PVPers actually appreciate you. Without your contributions we couldn't do what's needed for the greater good across some areas of the map. While you're storming 85 people deep into a keep, it allows guys like me to take the resources for you quickly and quietly.

    That said, please do yourself a favor.

    Carry a few stone trebuchets.

    There is nothing more disheartening than seeing a Zerg train run out of steam as 85 people set up 1 siege (generally a meatbag being shot at a door) while most of you get wiped while you're (I'm assuming) trying to carve your initials into a keep wall.

    Please do yourself and your alliance a favor and pack a few stone trebs. It would be much appreciated.

    Why siege when you can run around spamming mutagen? That's much more helpful isn't it?

    Hahaha. I prefer spamming breath of life until out of resources and then wondering why PVP is so hard.
  • imnotanother
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    But please stay off my siege! I run 3-4 at a time. Will gladly set up more for you.

    I hate getting my rotation thrown off.

    Yeah...I sort of let that go, and now I'm just happy if whoever steals it fires the right way.

    But they still end up trying to target a player instead lol
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Svenja wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    But please stay off my siege! I run 3-4 at a time. Will gladly set up more for you.

    I hate getting my rotation thrown off.

    Yeah...I sort of let that go, and now I'm just happy if whoever steals it fires the right way.

    Nah. To see people turn your stone treb to the opposite direction to fire at enemy players coming from behind on an open field is much more fun. #efficiency

    The cousin of the player who goes to the top of the keep wall corner tower and puts one siege down in the middle of it ... and it's a scattershot.

    Who needs 12,000 points of wall damage from a 3 treb volley anyway!
  • Rylana
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    Dear OP, as one of the principal leaders of a tight medium to large sized group that also routinely throws down 20/20 siege, I offer to you that we dont need help, kthx.
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  • yodased
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    Any time I am at a fight, there is going to be a yoda-seige line set down.

    Everyone on my server knows this by now and unfortunately I think its a bit expected at this point, but whatever gets us our castles back the fastest, i'm in, even if it does cost like 50k-100k AP a day
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Dear OP, as one of the principal leaders of a tight medium to large sized group that also routinely throws down 20/20 siege, I offer to you that we dont need help, kthx.

    Your seige are much appreciated. I'm kinda talking to those leaderless groups that barbarically just kind of do stuff.

    Clearly you have a plan. For that, I thank you. Glad to meet one of the other 50 people that probably owns forward camps. It's a small community.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    By far, the best zerg groups are ones that can literally take a keep in 3 minutes tops. 20/20 siege immediately as the group arrives to the keep; hitting inner and outer at the same time; no dillydallying around the wall for a bit before setting up.

    The response time for reinforcements to get to a keep is usually a few minutes. They have to finish their current battle and then ride to defend. If you can flip a keep in 3 minutes, it's guaranteed to be yours.

    Of course, you do have to enjoy PVDoor, though.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    yodased wrote: »
    Any time I am at a fight, there is going to be a yoda-seige line set down.

    Everyone on my server knows this by now and unfortunately I think its a bit expected at this point, but whatever gets us our castles back the fastest, i'm in, even if it does cost like 50k-100k AP a day

    Exactly . It's even easier if your in a PvP guild and have a bank dedicated to siege and repair kits . If everyone donated some it's not that expensive . Besides I don't know many actual PvP exclusive players that enjoy sitting on a siege . If we can get someone else to do it , great !
  • TheDarkShadow
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    Sometime I want to siege stuffs, sometime I just want to push back and forth from outpost-keep, keep-outpost and make AP.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    yodased wrote: »
    Any time I am at a fight, there is going to be a yoda-seige line set down.

    Everyone on my server knows this by now and unfortunately I think its a bit expected at this point, but whatever gets us our castles back the fastest, i'm in, even if it does cost like 50k-100k AP a day

    You are the hero we need.

    If anyone is wondering the reason why I brought this up was a seige on Faregyl XBox NA about 9PM eastern last night.

    My group of 15 saw about 100 EP also heading towards Faregyl. I instructed my group to let the Zerg focus on the keep, and we'd help them by taking the resouces, then joining up.

    When we got back, 3 resouces later, 1 seige was put up and there were maybe 5 people left. A good hundred players got wiped in under 10 minutes and only one actually took the time to set up 1 seige, let alone 20.

    In retrospect I probably should have lead the Zerg into a 20/20 instead of taking the resources. I failed as a general but hopefully one person will read this, spend 1800 AP on a treb and, next time, be a hero.
  • OGLezard
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    and all I want is AD to stop doing bridge fights because it is a waste of time and we get NO defense ticks...... meanwhile EP sends people behind us to seige things and even then AD is to stupid to do anything about this tactic that is two years old....

    Even more so, I REALLY want AD to start sieging resource towers and not cap the flag when a group of derps from ep or dc run in there.......would make it so much easier -_-

    2+ years of explaining this in zone chat and it still never changes.....Majority of AD still cant figure this out lol

    Edited by OGLezard on July 13, 2016 4:58PM
  • DRXHarbinger
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    and all I want is AD to stop doing bridge fights because it is a waste of time and we get NO defense ticks...... meanwhile EP sends people behind us to seige things and even then AD is to stupid to do anything about this tactic that is two years old....

    Even more so, I REALLY want AD to start sieging resource towers and not cap the flag when a group of derps from ep or dc run in there.......would make it so much easier -_-

    2+ years of explaining this in zone chat and it still never changes.....Majority of AD still cant figure this out lol

    Come play on XB then. AD is literally full of headless chickens in Cyro. Dagger fall and reds openly share the map. We literally have done nothing in Cyro for months now except run to a keep and die and spam mutagen, bol and repair walls. Siege...not even sure out merchant sells it. You buy it from the woodworker right?
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    and all I want is AD to stop doing bridge fights because it is a waste of time and we get NO defense ticks...... meanwhile EP sends people behind us to seige things and even then AD is to stupid to do anything about this tactic that is two years old....

    Even more so, I REALLY want AD to start sieging resource towers and not cap the flag when a group of derps from ep or dc run in there.......would make it so much easier -_-

    2+ years of explaining this in zone chat and it still never changes.....Majority of AD still cant figure this out lol

    Happens to all of us. Haha.
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    Personally I love the numbers people quote all the time for zergs. Far as I can tell the requirement for claiming how many people are in a zerg is to take the actual number of players multiply by 3 then step back and mutiply the new number by 2 to be safe. Then you tell everyone that final number to describe the fight,

    While I have seen the occasional 40+ (one side) at a big big fight I would say that on average it is far far less. Of course if you are in a small group of 3 or 4 a group of 12 may seem big and usually gets described as 30+ lol.
  • Phinix1
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    The image of a huge army of potatoes sieging a stone outer wall with meat bags...

    Good stuff! :D
  • Orlacc
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    A zerg attacking my keep is AP galore. Keep running around out front kids!
  • Lexxypwns
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    Molag_Crow wrote: »
    Let's be honest as well, without zergs, Cyrodiil would be boring. I usually solo/play with a group of 2-10 players from time to time and defend, but as annoying and laggy as zergs can be, it spices things up big time. I wish lag weren't so heavy though.

    I'm really not one to judge people for playing how they want, but I can honestly say that if there were no more zergs in cyrodiil my level of fun would increase exponentially
    Rylana wrote: »
    Dear OP, as one of the principal leaders of a tight medium to large sized group that also routinely throws down 20/20 siege, I offer to you that we dont need help, kthx.

    Are you self-identifying as a zergling right now?
    Edited by Lexxypwns on July 13, 2016 5:31PM
  • Tryxus
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    Tryxus' message to Zergs:

    "You need more people!"

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  • AshTal
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    I never know who has it worse. The team with the zerg train. Sure the heart of the Zerg train is unkilllable, it probably gets them a lot of AP (why else do it) and it generate so much lag most other players can't put up a defence. But these Trains ignore objectives, never siege often spend hours inside a tower killing anyone who tries to get in and never do anything to help their own side letting people not in the zerg just get killed. Or does the other team have it worse who has to face the almost unkillable lag creating AOE spamming group who just run from area to ear spamming AOE's 24 hours 7 days a week.
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