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ZOS HAS GONE BAN CRAZY!!! GOD HELP US ALL!!
CokeVoAYCE
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EDIT--- P.S. : remember no one discuss any personal disciplinary action. ZOS is just waiting for an excuse to close this thread.
so.. it appears ZOS has gone a little ban crazy lately. this is partly due to us, but it's mainly all ZOS's fault. i'll explain: so back when cheating was going on ZOS would ban no one. the reason for this is quite simple, their a company trying to maximize their profits and realize that even those cheating with cheat engine still pay for DLCs, new content, and often sub. money is good no matter who it comes from, cheaters and non-cheaters alike.
so the next event comes along.. -- the cheat engine epidemic blows up, and everything becomes aware of it. people also become aware of ZOS's inaction to ban people, and they start unsubbing. they also take screen caps of their unsub and share it to get others to join in, resulting in more unsubs. now ZOS is losing money and is in the tight corner of either having to ban cheaters to keep good players subbing, or let the good players unsub and keep the cheaters money.
next, what do they decide to do? they decide to try and get the best of both pies. like having their cake... and eating it too. they decide to announce that they perma-banned plenty of cheat engine cheaters, and release a number like (42 perma-bans i think it was)? that was their PR stunt to get all the good players to resub and keep any good players from unsubbing. it was only a PR stunt. then few weeks later once the hype died down a little bit they decided to unban some of those that were perma-banned, and start getting that cheater money again too.
now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
now many people are victims to ZOS's excessive PR stunt bans, and they have gone ban crazy. they are going ban crazy on all these innocent people now just to say "we take cheating very seriously." most likely everyone will end up getting an unban later anyway, but it still sucks for many of us that have to deal with their stupid bans just in order for them to pretend that "they take cheating very seriously."
anyway this is just my theory of what's going on now and why they did what they did. you guys can tell me your opinions.
Edited by CokeVoAYCE on July 11, 2016 2:00AM so.. it appears ZOS has gone a little ban crazy lately. this is partly due to us, but it's mainly all ZOS's fault. i'll explain: so back when cheating was going on ZOS would ban no one. the reason for this is quite simple, their a company trying to maximize their profits and realize that even those cheating with cheat engine still pay for DLCs, new content, and often sub. money is good no matter who it comes from, cheaters and non-cheaters alike.
so the next event comes along.. -- the cheat engine epidemic blows up, and everything becomes aware of it. people also become aware of ZOS's inaction to ban people, and they start unsubbing. they also take screen caps of their unsub and share it to get others to join in, resulting in more unsubs. now ZOS is losing money and is in the tight corner of either having to ban cheaters to keep good players subbing, or let the good players unsub and keep the cheaters money.
next, what do they decide to do? they decide to try and get the best of both pies. like having their cake... and eating it too. they decide to announce that they perma-banned plenty of cheat engine cheaters, and release a number like (42 perma-bans i think it was)? that was their PR stunt to get all the good players to resub and keep any good players from unsubbing. it was only a PR stunt. then few weeks later once the hype died down a little bit they decided to unban some of those that were perma-banned, and start getting that cheater money again too.
now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
now many people are victims to ZOS's excessive PR stunt bans, and they have gone ban crazy. they are going ban crazy on all these innocent people now just to say "we take cheating very seriously." most likely everyone will end up getting an unban later anyway, but it still sucks for many of us that have to deal with their stupid bans just in order for them to pretend that "they take cheating very seriously."
anyway this is just my theory of what's going on now and why they did what they did. you guys can tell me your opinions.
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In most (if not all) MMOs I played, glitch exploiting was a bannable offense. Granted, I'm a MMO veteran and the only two "modern" MMOs I've played was this one and GW2.
Did it stop being a thing on newer MMOs or something?Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.6 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭My reading comprehension may be off right now but it seems you are arguing that too many cheaters are getting banned?
Ban them all ZoS. Make it lifetime.33 -
Kronuxx✭✭✭✭People complain when ZOS "does nothing". People complain when ZOS "does something" but not to their liking. I have no remorse for those who are banned. If ZOS deems it necessary, I think it's their prerogative to do so. If you have done nothing, you have nothing to fear. Especially if the anti-cheat program glitches somehow in some mysterious way and bans you, I'm sure you could still make a case to be unbanned if you are innocent.8
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CokeVoAYCE✭✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »My reading comprehension may be off right now but it seems you are arguing that too many cheaters are getting banned?
Ban them all ZoS. Make it lifetime.
you do realize you can use a gap closer and the glitch can happen *unintentionally*, right? and your reading comprehension is off. let me break it down nice and simple for you. zos perma bans you as a PR stunt to pretend like they take cheating seriously, when they really don't. then they unban people. do you understand that?2 -
CokeVoAYCE✭✭✭✭In most (if not all) MMOs I played, glitch exploiting was a bannable offense. Granted, I'm a MMO veteran and the only two "modern" MMOs I've played was this one and GW2.
Did it stop being a thing on newer MMOs or something?
you haven't addressed anything my post said and proved you can't read.2 -
BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭Banning people who done the gap closer glitch is dumb ZOS
Most players don't go on the forums, so they didn't know it was an exploit. Besides it wasn't even that bad.WOOD ELF MASTER RACE.5 -
BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭Now awesome my post beaches.Edited by BruhItsOver9000 on July 11, 2016 2:38AMWOOD ELF MASTER RACE.1
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vyrusb23✭✭✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Now like my post beaches.
There is no "like." This isn't facebook, "beach."Edited by vyrusb23 on July 11, 2016 2:36AM8 -
Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »My reading comprehension may be off right now but it seems you are arguing that too many cheaters are getting banned?
Ban them all ZoS. Make it lifetime.
you do realize you can use a gap closer and the glitch can happen *unintentionally*, right? and your reading comprehension is off. let me break it down nice and simple for you. zos perma bans you as a PR stunt to pretend like they take cheating seriously, when they really don't. then they unban people. do you understand that?
Bahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Yeah, it's really easy to "accidentally" gap close up a keep wall.
I am so freaking sick of hearing this stupid excuse.
Edited by Pomaikai on July 11, 2016 2:38AM19 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »In most (if not all) MMOs I played, glitch exploiting was a bannable offense. Granted, I'm a MMO veteran and the only two "modern" MMOs I've played was this one and GW2.
Did it stop being a thing on newer MMOs or something?
you haven't addressed anything my post said and proved you can't read.CokeVoAYCE wrote: »now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
Could you please then tell me what you meant with this? Because yes, since English is not my first language, I might very well have misunderstood it, but it seems that you believe that ZOS shouldn't ban people using the gap closer glitch, although that is glitch exploiting.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.10 -
vyrusb23✭✭✭✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »In most (if not all) MMOs I played, glitch exploiting was a bannable offense. Granted, I'm a MMO veteran and the only two "modern" MMOs I've played was this one and GW2.
Did it stop being a thing on newer MMOs or something?
you haven't addressed anything my post said and proved you can't read.CokeVoAYCE wrote: »now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
Could you please then tell me what you meant with this? Because yes, since English is not my first language, I might very well have misunderstood it, but it seems that you believe that ZOS shouldn't ban people using the gap closer glitch, although that is glitch exploiting.
Geez. You type your second language better than most forum goers type their primary language.
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »In most (if not all) MMOs I played, glitch exploiting was a bannable offense. Granted, I'm a MMO veteran and the only two "modern" MMOs I've played was this one and GW2.
Did it stop being a thing on newer MMOs or something?
you haven't addressed anything my post said and proved you can't read.CokeVoAYCE wrote: »now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
Could you please then tell me what you meant with this? Because yes, since English is not my first language, I might very well have misunderstood it, but it seems that you believe that ZOS shouldn't ban people using the gap closer glitch, although that is glitch exploiting.
Geez. You type your second language better than most forum goers type their primary language.
Why thank you! Many years of practice. I suck at speaking it, though ~.~Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.4 -
Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've been in guilds with lots of folks from other countries whose primary language is not English. Every single one of them always worried that their English, written and spoken, was horrible. The truth though was that their English was always a hell of a lot better than a whole lot of people whose only language is English. You know why I think it's always so good? They care, unlike so many if the people who are native English speakers.7 -
Smileybones✭✭✭✭Instead of jumping on people's throats for their reading skills, OP could question themself about the usefulness of such a thread when simply adding their opinion to the sticky thread would have been enough.5 -
CokeVoAYCE✭✭✭✭i'm not gonna reply to people who haven't even read my post and aren't addressing any of the points i made up. re-read guys. this has NOTHING to do with the gap closer glitch.1
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Looks like another person is trying to get their story straight before they get banned. Just stop cheating and you should be okay.8 -
CokeVoAYCE✭✭✭✭Looks like another person is trying to get their story straight before they get banned. Just stop cheating and you should be okay.
i was not banned for anything gameplay related, so please can everyone stop saying that? my post is about bans being used as a PR stunt. do you guys disagree with that?0 -
Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »i'm not gonna reply to people who haven't even read my post and aren't addressing any of the points i made up. re-read guys. this has NOTHING to do with the gap closer glitch.
It doesn't? Maybe you should read your own messages, and I quote: "for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously." Seems to me that you made this an example for a reason.
As far as cheating goes and claiming innocence, the prisons are full of people who all claim they are innocent ZOS probably has a lot of things they can look at to tell if someone is actually cheating. And if they were wrongly banned, there is an appeal process. I have to believe that if someone can explain to a ZOS representative the circumstances of what happened, they can check to see if you are telling the truth. It doesn't take rocket science to check the logs and look at your character stats at the time of the incident to find out what happened. 4 -
BenLocoDete✭✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »(...)so back when cheating was going on ZOS would ban no one. the reason for this is quite simple, their a company trying to maximize their profits and realize that even those cheating with cheat engine still pay for DLCs, new content, and often sub. money is good no matter who it comes from, cheaters and non-cheaters alike.(...)
anyway this is just my theory of what's going on now and why they did what they did. you guys can tell me your opinions.
This is probably the worst interpretation you can have about cheating and ZOS policy. Cheat tolerance is much more severe for the company since it discourages people from playing the game and from trusting they will have a fair ground if they decide to play. The company has a lot to lose with complacency to cheaters and they know it, they just can't ban for life and get a thousand appeals the next day without further proof and strong evidence, obtainable usually by in-depth scans and logs, and those are quite tedious and staff/time-consuming.[slit]Throat[/slit]2 -
bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭It doesn't take rocket science to check the logs and look at your character stats at the time of the incident to find out what happened.
i have heared of people (person A) being temporarily banned (for a few hours) following a spur of reports of aparent cheating, and once fully investigated it turned out the people reporting person A were the ones cheating, and the ban was lifted from person A (who had not been cheating), and the people who reported them were themselves banned.
edt cause the typos were so bad even i noticed themEdited by bebynnag on July 11, 2016 3:29AM2 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »Looks like another person is trying to get their story straight before they get banned. Just stop cheating and you should be okay.
i was not banned for anything gameplay related, so please can everyone stop saying that? my post is about bans being used as a PR stunt. do you guys disagree with that?
So you haven't been banned for anything game related, but you have been banned. Otherwise you would of said "I haven't been banned.
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CelticStones✭✭✭sounds like someone just watched the fengrush vid and decided to jump on the bandwagon... old news4
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hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭CokeVoAYCE wrote: »EDIT--- P.S. : remember no one discuss any personal disciplinary action. ZOS is just waiting for an excuse to close this thread.
so.. it appears ZOS has gone a little ban crazy lately. this is partly due to us, but it's mainly all ZOS's fault. i'll explain: so back when cheating was going on ZOS would ban no one. the reason for this is quite simple, their a company trying to maximize their profits and realize that even those cheating with cheat engine still pay for DLCs, new content, and often sub. money is good no matter who it comes from, cheaters and non-cheaters alike.
so the next event comes along.. -- the cheat engine epidemic blows up, and everything becomes aware of it. people also become aware of ZOS's inaction to ban people, and they start unsubbing. they also take screen caps of their unsub and share it to get others to join in, resulting in more unsubs. now ZOS is losing money and is in the tight corner of either having to ban cheaters to keep good players subbing, or let the good players unsub and keep the cheaters money.
next, what do they decide to do? they decide to try and get the best of both pies. like having their cake... and eating it too. they decide to announce that they perma-banned plenty of cheat engine cheaters, and release a number like (42 perma-bans i think it was)? that was their PR stunt to get all the good players to resub and keep any good players from unsubbing. it was only a PR stunt. then few weeks later once the hype died down a little bit they decided to unban some of those that were perma-banned, and start getting that cheater money again too.
now where at a situation now where ZOS decides to pretend to take cheating seriously, "perma-ban" people as their PR stunt, and then unban them later. and they decide to use this trick to ban anyone that does any sort of glitch now. for example, now ZOS goes straight to banning those that did the gap closer glitch, (even though many of them didn't even know it was a glitch), in order to do their PR stunt to say "ZOS takes cheating very seriously."
now many people are victims to ZOS's excessive PR stunt bans, and they have gone ban crazy. they are going ban crazy on all these innocent people now just to say "we take cheating very seriously." most likely everyone will end up getting an unban later anyway, but it still sucks for many of us that have to deal with their stupid bans just in order for them to pretend that "they take cheating very seriously."
anyway this is just my theory of what's going on now and why they did what they did. you guys can tell me your opinions.
Can I have your stuff when you get banned ?
Edited by hrothbern on July 11, 2016 4:34AM"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU1 -
OneKhajiitCrimeWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭The 8 divines cannot save you. Maybe Clavicus Vile could but he's not in the game enough to care about your opinion. Your only option would be to pray to Khajiit... or the god of ZOS, whichever Daedra they chose.
This one shakes the head at the fact that people moaned when ZOS were not taking action. Now people are moaning when ZOS takes action. Khajiit may have missed something while checking the pockets of the people in Vulkel Guard but be happy ZOS is actually taking action. It's not like you have to really worry unless you are cheating/exploiting.Dark Flare is the Beginning, Radiant is the End. Hail the Light Bringers!6 -
Slammer99uk✭✭✭Not a personal attack but, OP's post is 95% supposition with no supporting facts only his own distorted view of how things appear.
Posts like this are largely pointless and only serving to inflame others both for and against. The sooner this post is locked and confined to the trash, the better
Just my personal opinion however.18
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