Stunstack exploit or skill ?

qrichou · July 2016

As i walk in cyrodill or imperial city , i come accross more and more players who have perfected the stunstack .
The result is it leaves the player open for 8 to 14 sec . stunned , feared petrifyed , interupted , or a comby of these and others .
Immpossible i hear you say , well yes and no if stunned normal its fine.
But if you use an animation cancel with stun you r stunstacked .
critrush, dizzying swing fear ambush ,venomarrow as a comby just 1 of many stamina build tricks
Frag, venom critrush dizzing ,heavy att.
Im getting rekt by lvl 30 nb simply because i cant do nothing for 8 to 14 sec .

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GinaBruno
Do you acknowledge stunstack as a fact in pvp ?
Is it an intended game mechanic ?
Are you awere of the broken breakfree , and the immunity after if you can breakfree

MaxwellC · July 2016

Not sure but I've been feared into a a fossilize then on top of that talon'd which leaves me virtually screwed since my stamina gets drained even faster during that process.

Takes-No-Prisoner · July 2016

I've had this happen to me fighting a StamSorc, as I was getting destroyed by them I was trying to figure out why I couldn't move. I think it could of been a combination of; Invasion, Immobile poison or Power slam. It was really hard to tell what I was getting locked down by all at once. But it was highly obvious they were definitely aiming to stack as much stun/immobile on me at once so I could not fight back.

I had the same situation happen to me with a Mag Blade hitting me with Crippling Grasp > Lotus Fan > Fear, I had to break both the Grasp and Fear twice in succession in order to gain control of my guy. I would have died if it were not for the guy healing me.

Waffennacht · July 2016

Since the release of DB people have mentioned how the immovable poison stacks.

Some PTS said how 3 players can perma-stun snare people with poison.

I feel poison was introduced too quickly. Very hard to tell on console that you're even effected.

Jar_Ek · July 2016

Out of curiosity does shuffle or an unstoppable potion free you up?

qrichou · July 2016

Jar_Ek wrote: »

Out of curiosity does shuffle or an unstoppable potion free you up?

dont know i am unable to use any abilty while stunstacked or swap bars

psychotic13 · July 2016

If it does stack it should be nerfed, sounds OP. How are you supposed to defend against a stun for that long.

Natas013 · July 2016

Yay, more broken mechanics and exploits, like we didn't have enough of those already

susmitds · July 2016

Actually Stun itself does not stack but you can apply Roots+Stun/Fear/Disorient etc to create a very similar effect. After you break the stun, you wont have any stamina to break the root and hence unable to rotate camera.

Waffennacht · July 2016

Also isn't the immovable poison not a CC? Therefore there is no immunity correct?

Wreuntzylla · July 2016

I have noticed every once in a while that I can't break free in IC and fear is usually involved. I was running a blocking, 50k health build and every once in a while it looks like I am still standing and free, but even rotating between break-free and block buttons, I can't get my block up and die. We typically like to play against the competitive groups that show up in IC, so It only takes 2-5 seconds for 2-3 dps to chew through 50k health without burst, and I have never been in a position to notice the extended length.

It never happens to anyone else in my group, so I assumed it was lag or something like that. It was enough for me to switch builds and roll-dodge/kite.

qrichou · July 2016

xboxdvr.com/gamer/qrichou/19493890
Well i hope this works

qrichou · July 2016

It looks like its not working ,can some one help me to get it linked .
I have only my xbox1 as a internet thingy ,
thanks

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2016

It's a exploit was else is their a broken CC immunity in the game.

Vangy · July 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Not sure but I've been feared into a a fossilize then on top of that talon'd which leaves me virtually screwed since my stamina gets drained even faster during that process.

If you dont break free, you dont get CC immunity I think. You only get it after the CC completely wears off. So if you got feared, and fossilised before you could break free (and before the fear effect ended), its intended that fossilise will work on you. Talons are considered a root ("soft CC"), so talons will always work as long as you are in range.

At least that is my understanding of how CC seems to work.

Johngo0036 · July 2016

stuns and immobilizes are totally stuffed....... You get no CC immunity anymore which is the issue

TARAFRAKA · July 2016

I'd just be happy if I could ACTUALLY break free of a fear ever again...

melloni_aleb16_ESO · July 2016

" If you dont break free, you dont get CC immunity "...

yes..and if you don't have stamina for break free and your enemy spam D.swing , fossilize ecc ..you are in perma-stun or perma-knockback ecc..ecc. ( field-tested ).
it works like this ? Yes . It ' an intelligent system ? NO

thk Wrobel (or..who is..) for having implemented the poisons , embarrassing set as vicecannon ( example ) and don't have revisited immunity and embarrassingly lag ! ahahaha

qrichou · July 2016

it seems there are even more stunstackers then before .
I am so sick of this nonskill bs and the stamine hype,
critrush venom fear heavy att .all nicely tucked in a 2 sec ac stunned for 8 sec or more
please zos any answers?
Should i just stop ?
It seems there is no room for my "house" a mag temp is doomed by @wrobel due to , to much selfsensoring.
if i go full heal , with blessed and ritual i do 3k heal on bol .
full dps i do 13k uncrit.
stop breaking this game even more

Waffennacht · July 2016

In the PTS everyone screamed poisons were too much... at 30%...

So...

They upped it to 60%

Dracane · July 2016

This sometimes happens when I proc fragments and sometimes my next frag knocks them down again.
I don't do this on purpose of course

Like I don't even know, when exactly I have to do that.

And then again, it only works against someone who doesn't bother breaking free and then it's his own fault.

qrichou · July 2016

Dracane wrote: »

This sometimes happens when I proc fragments and sometimes my next frag knocks them down again.
I don't do this on purpose of course Like I don't even know, when exactly I have to do that.

And then again, it only works against someone who doesn't bother breaking free and then it's his own fault.

i got 9k stam i do bother, its useless ,but i understand its most of the time unintended .
game-mechanics is broken.
being full mag build gets punished ,full stam rewarded

failkiwib16_ESO · July 2016

I experience this a lot, hence why I don't pvp lately. I am aware that some players aren't doing these things on purpose, but 99% of the time I get this, it's 100% deliberate and I don't find it fun.

I can't bring myself to hold these exploits against any players either. These exploits have been in the game for too long and players are just more aware of them now. It's pvp, so of course they will make use of whatever advantage they can get.... however, I will exclude myself from pvp due to this same thing.

Dracane · July 2016

qrichou wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

This sometimes happens when I proc fragments and sometimes my next frag knocks them down again.
I don't do this on purpose of course Like I don't even know, when exactly I have to do that.

And then again, it only works against someone who doesn't bother breaking free and then it's his own fault.

i got 9k stam i do bother, its useless ,but i understand its most of the time unintended .
game-mechanics is broken.
being full mag build gets punished ,full stam rewarded

Hm I get you, I only have 9k either

But my opponents always seem to have infinite stamina.

Xvorg · July 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

It's a exploit was else is their a broken CC immunity in the game.

happened to me yesterday while in haddy land... A templar threw his jav, then I broke CC and then charged me with toppling charge, stunning me again

By the way, why is toppling charge allowed to stun players and ambush no?

DHale · July 2016

When I use it it's skill when it is used on me... Exploit.

RAGUNAnoOne · July 2016

Dracane wrote: »

This sometimes happens when I proc fragments and sometimes my next frag knocks them down again.
I don't do this on purpose of course Like I don't even know, when exactly I have to do that.

And then again, it only works against someone who doesn't bother breaking free and then it's his own fault.

@Dracane there are many times where I have 100% FULL stam and still can't break free at all despite spamming it everyone is supposed to get at least one break free but no...

FullBlownBeast · July 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

It's a exploit was else is their a broken CC immunity in the game.

happened to me yesterday while in haddy land... A templar threw his jav, then I broke CC and then charged me with toppling charge, stunning me again

By the way, why is toppling charge allowed to stun players and ambush no?

FFS, lol. Are you an idiot?

lucky_Sage · July 2016

since I main a magdk I fossilize then talons cause roots don't count so they waste there stam and I'm a magdk so I hit with pillows
ive never been stun locked but I do have cc break bug when I have full stam and it wont break free