7/8/2016 ESO Live - Upcoming Racial Changes

ArtOfShred

In case you missed ESO Live today, synopsis of racial changes since the patch notes were released (I believe these were the only changes they announced that differ from the current PTS Patch Notes):

Redguard - Adrenaline Rush: Internal cooldown increased from 3 to 5 seconds.

Here's some basic math assuming 40k Stamina Pool and 100% uptime on a target to show you a few different ways you can look at this:
Live Adrenaline Rush:
1200 Stamina / 3 sec
Equivalent to 800 Stamina Recovery
Patch 2.5 Adrenaline Rush:
1200 Stamina / 5 sec
Equivalent to 480 Stamina Recovery

Khajiit - Robust Constitution: Reverted to it's current live incarnation.

Bosmer - Resist Affliction: Increased from 3% to 6% Max Stamina Bonus.

GreenSoup2HoT

@ArtOfShred

Live Adrenaline Rush: 1200 Stamina / 3 sec = 400 Stamina / 1 sec = 800 Stamina Recovery
Patch 2.5 Adrenaline Rush: 1200 Stamina / 5 sec = 240 Stamina / 1 sec = 480 Stamina Recovery

I think you meant 2 seconds instead of 1 second.


Bosmer's in my opinion did not need the Buff. They were already very good in my opinion. They were very good gankers and had great sustain. I dunno, personally i don't think it's necessary. I guess it's more of a PvE buff since stealth doesn't mean anything in trails.


Pretty disappointed to here nothing about Imperials. Red Diamond RNG is not fun

ArtOfShred

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@ArtOfShred

I think you meant 2 seconds instead of 1 second.

Its 240/400 stamina per second, or 480/800 Stamina Recovery. Recovery in ESO ticks every 2 seconds. Actually let me reformat this a bit it does look confusing.

GreenSoup2HoT

ArtOfShred wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

@ArtOfShred

I think you meant 2 seconds instead of 1 second.

Its 240/400 stamina per second, or 480/800 Stamina Recovery. Recovery in ESO ticks every 2 seconds. Actually let me reformat this a bit it does look confusing.

Yeah thats what i trying to get at, no point really showing the stamina per second. Changing the calculation to stamina regen (every 2 seconds) would make more sense.

ADarklore

Eric's view of the classes is that Khajiit are the best Stamina damage race, Redguards are the best Stamina regen race, and Bosmer are 'supposed to be' in-between... which is why the new 3% increase of Max Stamina, to actually put them in that spot.

Vythri

Vythri wrote: »

Orcs:

• Swift Warrior - Increases your damage with melee weapon attacks by 2/3/4%

Redguard:

• Adrenaline Rush - Your melee attacks restore 1/2/3% of your Max Stamina

Imperial:

• Red Diamond - Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 2/4/6% or your Max Health

Dunmer:

• Destructive Ancestry - Increases your Flame Damage by 3/5/7% (increasing Flame Staff damage)

Altmer

• Elemental Talent - Increases your Flame, Frost, and Shock Damage by 2/3/4% (increasing all Destruction Staff damage)

5/10 races have buffs to either melee damage/utility, or staff damage.

0/10 have buffs to bow damage/utility.

@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Rohaus

*sigh*

ZOS... I really dislike this change... Leave Redguards alone...

Rohamad_Ali

ADarklore wrote: »

Eric's view of the classes is that Khajiit are the best Stamina damage race, Redguards are the best Stamina regen race, and Bosmer are 'supposed to be' in-between... which is why the new 3% increase of Max Stamina, to actually put them in that spot.

Eric's view changes day to day , that's the problem . It obviously wasn't his view when he first started .

Reykice

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Eric's view of the classes is that Khajiit are the best Stamina damage race, Redguards are the best Stamina regen race, and Bosmer are 'supposed to be' in-between... which is why the new 3% increase of Max Stamina, to actually put them in that spot.

Eric's view changes day to day , that's the problem . It obviously wasn't his view when he first started .

Wonder is people would sign a petition to remove him... he is just changing crap with little thought.

Half the forum asked for a magic damage increase for a race but no... he buffed khajit then decided not to and just nerf it all. Except dunmer...

ADarklore

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Eric's view of the classes is that Khajiit are the best Stamina damage race, Redguards are the best Stamina regen race, and Bosmer are 'supposed to be' in-between... which is why the new 3% increase of Max Stamina, to actually put them in that spot.

Eric's view changes day to day , that's the problem . It obviously wasn't his view when he first started .

I think, perhaps, he was trying to make Khajiit and Redguard more 'equal' but then the outcry came, so then he came up with the whole "Khajiit are top damage, Redguard are top sustain, and Bosmer should be in-between" concept to explain the back-peddling.

DDuke

Eh, most all of these upcoming changes are actually going in the right direction - why are people upset?

Khajiit, best PvE stam race in the game won't become even better (still, would be nice to see them get something like crit resistance as extra bonus, as they're still a little behind bosmers when it comes to PvP viability)
Bosmer, one of the worst PvE races in the game gets better
Redguard, best PvP stam race gets scaled down (still gets 400~ worth of regen from Adrenaline Rush)


What's the matter?

Vangy

DDuke wrote: »

Eh, most all of these upcoming changes are actually going in the right direction - why are people upset?

Khajiit, best PvE stam race in the game won't become even better (still, would be nice to see them get something like crit resistance as extra bonus, as they're still a little behind bosmers when it comes to PvP viability)
Bosmer, one of the worst PvE races in the game gets better
Redguard, best PvP stam race gets scaled down (still gets 400~ worth of regen from Adrenaline Rush)


What's the matter?

Cos people like broken builds that stack 40k max stam and get free 800 stam regen lol.... This change to redguard is much much needed. 800 stam regen for stacking max stam is an insane bonus to PvP. Bosmer even with 21% stam regen would have needed about 3.8k stam regen to get that 800 bonus lol. Not to mention redguard already gets a 10% max stam and 9% recovery to boot.

Tdroid

Vangy wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Eh, most all of these upcoming changes are actually going in the right direction - why are people upset?

Khajiit, best PvE stam race in the game won't become even better (still, would be nice to see them get something like crit resistance as extra bonus, as they're still a little behind bosmers when it comes to PvP viability)
Bosmer, one of the worst PvE races in the game gets better
Redguard, best PvP stam race gets scaled down (still gets 400~ worth of regen from Adrenaline Rush)


What's the matter?

Cos people like broken builds that stack 40k max stam and get free 800 stam regen lol.... This change to redguard is much much needed. 800 stam regen for stacking max stam is an insane bonus to PvP. Bosmer even with 21% stam regen would have needed about 3.8k stam regen to get that 800 bonus lol. Not to mention redguard already gets a 10% max stam and 9% recovery to boot.

And because certain other races remain underwhelming compared to the others. When they say they want to balance the races, people want to see actual balance between the races.