Impen, divines or infused?

superleeds19

I'm trying to decide what trait is best for my end of game gear. For a dps mag sorc

Would mainly be for pvp and some pve dungeons

Thanks for help

C0wrex

Divines

Divines all the way! For the eight baby!

Ffastyl

Infused

For straight up damage, Infused or Divines (depending on Mundus) is best. Since several Sorcerer skills scale exclusively with Max Magicka, Infused may earn more mileage (depending on Mundus).

magnusthorek

Divines

C0wrex wrote: »

Divines all the way! For the eight baby!

By the nine, another one diluted! XD

Voxicity

Other

Prosperous

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Defilted

Impenetrable

For PVP or PVE?

I do not see that much value in Divines in PVP in my own experience. You need to be highly resistant to Crit in PVP. You need to be able to decrease your opponents Spell and physical resistance in PVP. I can really vote for just one as you need to use the one that boost you in the area you are lacking. You will more than likely use a combination of them.

PVE
Divines for the most part
Tanks would choose defending on some pieces.

Averya_Teira

Divines

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Prosperous

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HA HA, profanity filter avoided.

superleeds19

@Defilted sorry forgot to put mainly pvp
I've updated now

Defilted

Impenetrable

I choose impen then just because in PVP stacking Defense makes more sense to me. The glass cannon build or the half and half defense/DPS just normally gets me killed very quickly. Full on Defense and slowing annoying my opponents to death is much more fun.

Stiltz

Other

I do divines on small pieces and infused on large (head, chest, legs). I thought this was pretty standard?

edit: for pve

Wollust

Impenetrable

For PvP definitely Impen.
For PvE Divines, though if you just want to do dungeons only casually every now and then you can do that pretty well with impen anyway.

HoolDog

Divines

Divines

If your shields are up, you can't get crit damage... If your shields are down your dead anyways.

Lightninvash

Divines

I say divines if you only want 1 set of gear. However, you should get a pvp set with infused and a divines pve set. Its what I am doing for my end game.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Infused

Infused on everything.

BURN EM ALL!!!!

Beardimus

Infused

DPS Mag Sorc historically was best infused on big items and divines' on smaller. No impen as wards don't crit so no need. Since DB depending on your build you may now need some impen

Jaronking

Impenetrable

If you don't want to be free AP once you'd shields are down run impen.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Infused

Beardimus wrote: »

DPS Mag Sorc historically was best infused on big items and divines' on smaller. No impen as wards don't crit so no need. Since DB depending on your build you may now need some impen

I've gotten a lot of hate for my all infused DPS magplar build but I don't regret it at all. 40k magicka is easily achievable on any race. 50k is probably achievable on high elf but I'm not certain. More than enough to burn everything and spam breath of life 10 or 15 times.

Dagoth_Rac

Stiltz wrote: »

I do divines on small pieces and infused on large (head, chest, legs). I thought this was pretty standard?

edit: for pve

Infused on big pieces was great back when there were softcaps or people only had 100 CP. The 20% extra magicka could work out to a significant amount of your total magicka. But an extra 600-ish magicka combined from 3 pieces Infused when CP501 people are running around with 45,000 magicka is barely noticeable. The 22.5% increase in Mundus effect now gives you more DPS, even if only running Thief mundus. If wearing Twice-Born Star and running both Thief and Shadow mundus, Divines becomes even more powerful.

Danksta

Why would anyone do all infused. On small pieces that's roughly an extra 250 max magic on all 4 pieces combined. Seems pretty lackluster to me.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Infused

Danksta wrote: »

Why would anyone do all infused. On small pieces that's roughly an extra 250 max magic on all 4 pieces combined. Seems pretty lackluster to me.

Because I spent a half million gold in my set just to see if it would work. It has. I don't regret it. Divines is probably better but infused is still pretty great.

Ch4mpTW

Other

I voted "other", because it's completely circumstantial. As others have said, in a PVP environment it's best to stack resistances to critical damage. Where as in a PVE setting, it's best to choose a trait that best increases your damage; or healing. Or tanking, if you're aiming to fulfil that role.

dem0n1k

Is there a limit to the number of pieces you can put Divines on & still have it stack effectively? I seem to recall someone in an earlier post saying that stacking Divines is not very effective after a few pieces but now I cannot find the post.

Same question concerning Impenetrable... is there an efficiency in using a certain number of pieces or best to use it on all pieces for maximum crit resistance?

Minalan

Other

Infused on large.
Impen on small.
Atronach mundus.

Akimbro

PVE: All divines with Thief
PVP: All impen w/ Atronach -or- all divines w/ Apprentice

KenaPKK

Other

HoolDog wrote: »

Divines

If your shields are up, you can't get crit damage... If your shields are down your dead anyways.

Only if you're a potato.

OP, run at least 4 impen on your small pieces. I prefer all impen then damage and sustain oriented item sets, but I am also accustomed to playing with slightly smaller shields, using my health bar to soak some damage too (isn't that what it's there for?).

Infused big pieces is solid on a sorc, but as long as you use 4 impen you'll be decemtly tanky.

Your CP distribution is just as important as your traits, though. Use at least 65 CP in bastion. More is excessive, less is reckless. Then split the rest into Hardy and Elemental Defender for mitigation.

You'll be able to tank with a sturdy health bar AND substantial shields, healing up underneath them via Power Surge, ward, and pots. This will give you strong windows where you can go offensive between having to reapply shields.

Also consider running Hardened on your front bar and the other 2 shields on the back. Good luck.

NovaShadow

Other

A full impen set for PvP

A full divines set for PvE

WreckfulAbandon

For MagSorc these days I put impen on small pieces and infused on big. Of course it all depends on your build but 4 small pieces of impen can yield some decent returns when you're in a tough fight.

OrphanHelgen

Infused

Im fan of using big armor parts for what they can be used for. For example reinforced in a heavy chest or infused in pants.
The other traits like divines and sturdy etc goes in small parts since they dont give much.

ofc a crit build with a khajiit or something, or a twiceborn star build would benefit more from divines. But saying divines is the only way to go is not correct.

dday3six

Other

Divines with Thief and/or Shadow Mundus is the best for PVE. In PVP crit is less useful, and Divines is lacking unless you're using a regen or max stat Mundus.

With that said in PVP I personally find Infused on Head, Chest, and Legs to be the better route for extra stats. I also think 7/7 Impen is overkill. I try to mix in either Infused, Divines, Strudy, or Well-fitted depending on what I'm aiming for with the build.

In most cases to get the best for both PVE and PVP you'll want different gear set ups for both modes.

Nifty2g

Divines

impen doesnt work in pve, mobs cant crit
infused is terrible

Van_0S

Impenetrable

Impen for PvP, Divines for PvE and Infused always (just 1 is enough)!