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Rename Flame Lash to Lukewarm Noodleslap
Actually_Goku
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Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
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xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Its the strongest magicka spam ability in PvE so change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.Member of HODOR
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✭✭✭✭✭xblackroxe wrote: »Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Right. And then you'll be the same kind of glass cannot as the nightblade, only without the stealth to help you survive.
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xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭xblackroxe wrote: »Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Right. And then you'll be the same kind of glass cannot as the nightblade, only without the stealth to help you survive.
So you should be able to tank 10 guys and still do damage like a NB. Right.Member of HODOR
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Actually_Goku✭✭✭✭xblackroxe wrote: »
change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
That's what she said
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xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »xblackroxe wrote: »
change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
That's what she said
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It's because they are all still using flame lashxblackroxe wrote: »Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Its the strongest magicka spam ability in PvE so change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.
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Actually_Goku✭✭✭✭I'm hoping to open up a discussion as to why Lash is so lacklustre, to the point, whereby I'm having more success spamming Force Shock than using Lukewarm Noodleslap?3
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✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
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llSRRll✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »I'm hoping to open up a discussion as to why Lash is so lacklustre, to the point, whereby I'm having more success spamming Force Shock than using Lukewarm Noodleslap?
Its bc there are already too many great abilities for the DK already, I tear myself apart everyday trying to figure out which ones I want to use.0 -
Actually_Goku✭✭✭✭I don't really want to get into a tussle with Magplars, Magblades and Sorcs (RIP) about Wah Wah, change your gear or use more hair gel for L2P - the point is, we have the worst spammable DPS skill when taken into context of other skills we have to run to be viable.
It is 4:12 AM in my country, I will go into greater detail in the morning. However I do hope to wake up to a discussion on everyone's feelings in regards to the slapping of a dragonknight's noodle.1 -
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✭✭Lash just gets hit by too much mitigation through cp, gear, battle spirit. I understand each class has its trade offs but lash needs to do more dmg to players.Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
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It's because they are all still using flame lashxblackroxe wrote: »Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Its the strongest magicka spam ability in PvE so change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.
Why wouldn't they use flame lash though?Susano'o
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Eugenstash✭✭EstelioVeleth wrote: »Now I want noodles...
I switched over to whole wheat noodles and pasta, give it a shot...you wont go back.0 -
xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »I don't really want to get into a tussle with Magplars, Magblades and Sorcs (RIP) about Wah Wah, change your gear or use more hair gel for L2P - the point is, we have the worst spammable DPS skill when taken into context of other skills we have to run to be viable.
It is 4:12 AM in my country, I will go into greater detail in the morning. However I do hope to wake up to a discussion on everyone's feelings in regards to the slapping of a dragonknight's noodle.
The problem is not whip man. Whip is the strongest magicka spam ability.Member of HODOR
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✭✭✭✭✭whip needs major fracture, it won't effect pve dps this way either.PS4 EU DC
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It's because they are all still using flame lashxblackroxe wrote: »Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
Come on do you really expect whip to do as much damage as concealed or whatever other ability on a HA DK? Get a setup like a Nightblade then see what Whip does.
Its the strongest magicka spam ability in PvE so change your gear if you don´t want to hit like a noodle.
Why wouldn't they use flame lash though?
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✭✭My whip hits for way more than that, damn everyone cries about being tanky yet hitting like a limp *** / noodle. Serious...breath, inhale, eruption, embers, whip whip whip (Skoria somewhere in between all this)...repeat.. not much can actually survive that in pvp except blazing shield builds etc even more so after you've leap at them or the fool tries to fight under your standard. Takes 2s to chuck all that out. L2DK.PC Master Race
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xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »whip needs major fracture, it won't effect pve dps this way either.
I think you mean major breach but yeah that would be an acceptable idea.Member of HODOR
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✭✭✭✭✭It hits hard enough (taken with 2.1k Spell Damage and 41k Magicka)"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It hits hard enough (taken with 2.1k Spell Damage and 41k Magicka)
With nb passives and skill such a relentless, that spell dmg/magicka would do 10k + on concealed.
On a stam nb it would be even higher with the armour debuff.
Give whip an armour debuff, it'll help out dk dmg in pvp as a whole and won't affect pve dps at all, as tanks will major breach/fracture bosses.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭Hmmm, maybe I need to check out noodle slap again. I put it away ages ago and replaced it with other more awesome skills.PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It hits hard enough (taken with 2.1k Spell Damage and 41k Magicka)
With nb passives and skill such a relentless, that spell dmg/magicka would do 10k + on concealed.
On a stam nb it would be even higher with the armour debuff.
Give whip an armour debuff, it'll help out dk dmg in pvp as a whole and won't affect pve dps at all, as tanks will major breach/fracture bosses.
Difference is smaller than you think, because this one was taken with the same amount of Magicka, same CP setup but with 500 Spell Damage more"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It hits hard enough (taken with 2.1k Spell Damage and 41k Magicka)
With nb passives and skill such a relentless, that spell dmg/magicka would do 10k + on concealed.
On a stam nb it would be even higher with the armour debuff.
Give whip an armour debuff, it'll help out dk dmg in pvp as a whole and won't affect pve dps at all, as tanks will major breach/fracture bosses.
Difference is smaller than you think, because this one was taken with the same amount of Magicka, same CP setup but with 500 Spell Damage more
That's without including the crit chance + dmg passives, the 8% dmg buff via merciless. The 10% dmg buff via cloaking.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »It hits hard enough (taken with 2.1k Spell Damage and 41k Magicka)
With nb passives and skill such a relentless, that spell dmg/magicka would do 10k + on concealed.
On a stam nb it would be even higher with the armour debuff.
Give whip an armour debuff, it'll help out dk dmg in pvp as a whole and won't affect pve dps at all, as tanks will major breach/fracture bosses.
Difference is smaller than you think, because this one was taken with the same amount of Magicka, same CP setup but with 500 Spell Damage more
That's without including the crit chance + dmg passives, the 8% dmg buff via merciless. The 10% dmg buff via cloaking.
Right, right... like a 10% Extra Crit chance, Snares, Increased Burn Damage, Extra Damage + Heal when hitting off balance enemies, ...
If we start adding in other skills/passives, this would turn into another class vs class topic. So let's keep it purely on the skill here: Flame Lash is not as weak as ppl think it is. Period.
If I were to DW instead of using S&B (extra Reflect + Synergy with Draconic Power passives) to get my Spell Damage on par, I'd be hitting just as hard as my MagBladeEdited by Tryxus on June 26, 2016 10:44PM"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »Dat 3.2k flame lash tho!
But seriously, flame lash needs either a decent buff or to become an execute skill. I've had so many fights recently in PVP that I just can't close out despite being the better player for 80% of the fight, because Mag DK just has no execute.
So either do as title says, or perhaps something along the lines of an extra damage execute on target under 25%, like how every other mana class has.
Plz and thx.
TITLE is AWESOME! xD
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