Test Dummy and Leaderboards

imnotanother

I am aware that there has always been a high demand for Test Dummies(DPS Test) and there are some great threads on the topic. I apologize to all the readers who have heard this demand over the years but I want to present my case to those who are new to the game or forums.

Standard Test Dummy
At any point in your leveling process, you will have access to a Test Dummy at your zone's local Fighter's Guild

All you would need to do is talk to an NPC assigned to manage the Practice area. When you choose to "Test Skills" you would access a solo instance. This way there are not 20 people swinging away at the same target.

These standard test would allow for DD/DPS players to test and refine their skills and rotations without the hassle of bringing a healer and tank to the Bloodspawn Test.

Daily Undaunted Test
Let's find out who deals the most damage from your alliance. The Dummy Leaderboards will be a once a day, timed test that will let you compete for the top spot for Damage Dealers.

The leaderboards will not reward any gold or gear but will be a means to flex your might (and your ego). It could be a way to find the best members for a trial group or someone to help beat the dungeon you are struggling to complete.

Like I said before, I know that this topic is not a new one but I am still surprised that this feature has not been implemented yet or that it does not get the equal attention like the Barber shop or Costume Dyes.
I would like to hear the views from everyone in the community and maybe, one day, we will be able to have such a luxury as the Test Dummy.

UltimaJoe777

Test Dummy is planned to come with Player Housing. That and displaying Trophies was mentioned to be part of that.

imnotanother

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Test Dummy is planned to come with Player Housing. That and displaying Trophies was mentioned to be part of that.

I wish you had a link the the article or video but I haven't heard any news on the topic.
It will be a welcome addition but if it is how you are saying, then it will most likely be a crown item...which would be unfortunate.

Danksta

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/267575/save-ninglenel-dps-test

They actually had one briefly (on PTS going into DB, I believe), but for some reason removed it.

rhapsodious

imnotanother wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Test Dummy is planned to come with Player Housing.

I wish you had a link the the article or video but I haven't heard any news on the topic.
It will be a welcome addition but if it is how you are saying, then it will most likely be a crown item...which would be unfortunate.

https://youtu.be/rypU8EoXFxo?t=3172

About thirty seconds after the linked time they mention they want it for player housing.

e: Of course it doesn't skip to the right time. 52:52.

UltimaJoe777

imnotanother wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Test Dummy is planned to come with Player Housing. That and displaying Trophies was mentioned to be part of that.

I wish you had a link the the article or video but I haven't heard any news on the topic.
It will be a welcome addition but if it is how you are saying, then it will most likely be a crown item...which would be unfortunate.

Yeah it was mentioned a good few months back and hasn't been mentioned since due to their policy on not saying too much regarding content that's far off.

imnotanother

Danksta wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/267575/save-ninglenel-dps-test

They actually had one briefly (on PTS going into DB, I believe), but for some reason removed it.

I do think he was a nice NPC to have around to practice a rotation and to see which combos led to more damage. Sad to see him go for so many players.

The problem with the NPC was, without a combat log, it was still hard to see how much damage you were doing per second or a better judgment of what the comparison would be to a Dungeon Boss. With a dedicated Dummy system, ZOS could design a UI that allows the user to see details of damage per second, length of time to take down boss with X amount of HP, and the potential for the leaderboards as well.

imnotanother

rhapsodious wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Test Dummy is planned to come with Player Housing.

I wish you had a link the the article or video but I haven't heard any news on the topic.
It will be a welcome addition but if it is how you are saying, then it will most likely be a crown item...which would be unfortunate.

https://youtu.be/rypU8EoXFxo?t=3172

About thirty seconds after the linked time they mention they want it for player housing.

e: Of course it doesn't skip to the right time. 52:52.

Nice job tracking down the video!
A bit disappointed with their answer though to be honest. It really didn't sound like it was something they were working on but maybe they would...if they found time.

I hope it that they are implemented though, at some point.

Danksta

imnotanother wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/267575/save-ninglenel-dps-test

They actually had one briefly (on PTS going into DB, I believe), but for some reason removed it.

I do think he was a nice NPC to have around to practice a rotation and to see which combos led to more damage. Sad to see him go for so many players.

The problem with the NPC was, without a combat log, it was still hard to see how much damage you were doing per second or a better judgment of what the comparison would be to a Dungeon Boss. With a dedicated Dummy system, ZOS could design a UI that allows the user to see details of damage per second, length of time to take down boss with X amount of HP, and the potential for the leaderboards as well.

I agree, and I much prefer your idea in the OP. It just seemed weird that they implemented the dummy/NPC, which was a step in the right direction, then took it away without explanation.

MuddledMuppet

One thing that I've never seen mentioned, is that if we had a decent test dummy with a log, we could fine tune builds and then those that wished to turn the numbers off in the way originally envisioned and still have a good idea how well their build is doing.

Numbers for testing, none for playing. Closer to the original concept and everyone's happy.

Although we now have numbers on consoles, it's impossible to keep track of them for dot builds.

UltimaJoe777

The way I see it the houses have all the potential of what Skyrim Hearthfire offered and then some. The possibilities are limitless! Training Dummies, Trophies, Crafting Stations, Shrines, a Stable, even nodes to collect once in awhile! Our own Bard, someone to give us items once a day... All we can do is wait and see what Zenimax gives us with it.

imnotanother

MuddledMuppet wrote: »

One thing that I've never seen mentioned, is that if we had a decent test dummy with a log, we could fine tune builds and then those that wished to turn the numbers off in the way originally envisioned and still have a good idea how well their build is doing.

Numbers for testing, none for playing. Closer to the original concept and everyone's happy.

Although we now have numbers on consoles, it's impossible to keep track of them for dot builds.

I agree 100%. It would be great to strip down the HUD like originally intended.

damarky

Test Dummies coming soon?

Rayya_Blackheart

Danksta wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/267575/save-ninglenel-dps-test

They actually had one briefly (on PTS going into DB, I believe), but for some reason removed it.

He was around way longer than that. He was a side-quest NPC.

Kalebron

Are we not currently test dummies? Lol

imnotanother

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

The way I see it the houses have all the potential of what Skyrim Hearthfire offered and then some. The possibilities are limitless! Training Dummies, Trophies, Crafting Stations, Shrines, a Stable, even nodes to collect once in awhile! Our own Bard, someone to give us items once a day... All we can do is wait and see what Zenimax gives us with it.

I imagine you are right and each feature will be sold for crowns but...

I want to see the OP concept (or something similar) added to the base content. There should be a way to, solo, check your DPS.

imnotanother

@ZOS_RichLambert
Are you teasing us or will there be test dummies in the near future?

imnotanother

Kalebron wrote: »

Are we not currently test dummies? Lol

Visit the thread I linked in the OP by @Gidorick

The Dummy Costume needs to be added!

Gidorick

imnotanother wrote: »

Kalebron wrote: »

Are we not currently test dummies? Lol

Visit the thread I linked in the OP by @Gidorick

The Dummy Costume needs to be added!

The Dummy Costume is one of the concepts I legitimately love. I mean, sure, the concepts I post I post because I think they would be a boon to ESO but this is one of those ideas I really think is too great to NOT be in ESO...

I mean... come on!

That's awesome!

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/172547/target-training-dummies-concept-with-pictures/p1

Thanks for linking my thread @imnotanother

As for your concepts outlined in this thread... I personally feel every dummy that is around the world needs to be interactive. The world needs to feel alive. We need to feel part of the world. In the world, not on top of the world. ESPECIALLY when it's a franchise like The Elder Scrolls.

To me, having things like chairs, ladders, dummies, pipes, etc. not interactive makes ESO "feel" more like FFVII than a TES title.

ON the world... not IN the world.

I'm thankful we can do things like pick up food in the world.

So, I disagree with test dummies being only accessible in homes or in the fighter's guild.

That being said, having a special dummy in the fighter's guild and mages guild sounds like a GREAT idea! These dummies being tied to leaderboards sounds really fun!