Getting Sick Of All The Murders In Town

EdmundTowers

Vulkhel Guard used to be a peaceful town. Ya, there was the occasional thief here and there. That was fine. Also there was the occasional new player who would accidentally attack an npc and cause a ruckus. But it rarely happened. It used to be a nice vibrant town to get immersed in. The whole atmosphere was peaceful. But now you can't go a minute without hearing people getting murdered all around you. I'm trying to do some crafting, some trading, organize my items at the banker, all the while people are getting murdered all around me. Corpses lying on the streets and avenues. This applies to every towns I visit.

I'm so sick of this. It's at odds with the whole ambient of the place. Ruins my immersion. If the town's were designed to be seedy dangerous places crawling with thieves and murderers, and the atmosphere build around that, I'd be fine with it. But they're not. They were designed to be peaceful lawful vibrant towns full of life. Which motivates the player to spend hours doing these quests to save the town from threats that would destroy it, and return a hero. But now you return to a town full of players murdering NPCs in plain site and you can't do anything about it. They just walk over to the next NPC and continue killing. What's the point? I guess players are doing it to get some lame achievement. But this is stupid. I can't attack them. Can't do anything about it. And it looks like its real easy for players to go on these killing sprees. How is this even fun?

Can we introduce some method of allowing players to report and sick guards on other players who kill NPCs? I'm sure the people going on these murdering sprees would appreciate the extra challenge.

Mojmir

Nope,the murders are immeraive for people playing dark brotherhood.

Tryxus

Well, we recently had a bit of an influx of Black Sacraments that have been performed. So ofc we had to dispatch as many of our Brothers and Sisters as we could.

Our sincerest apologies from the Dark Brotherhood for ruining your immersion

Hail Sithis

attackjet

Wow, like uhhhhh.... Yeah.

I can't think of anything to say to this, like wtf...

Vangy

Just give it a month or 2, and when those who want the achieves are done, things will go back to being peaceful.... Its just that the most recent DLC was pertaining DB... and DB lore-wise is a group known for...well.. murder,hits and assassinations...

KingMagaw

They talked loosely about an idea like yours, called Justice system. It was scrapped. Time to move on...

Rev Rielle

Yes, I must admit it's all a bit silly; standing around whilst seeing others get murdered. There was one player in Wayrest the other day, they went from NPC to NPC murdering one after another in the middle of the day.

It's a perfect example of game mechanics - that might work fine in single-player games - completely missing the mark when it comes to a multiplayer platform. Something does need to be done. I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to attack these players if we see (are flagged to have seen) them murder someone.

And that's making no mention of all the corpses lying about still after the NPCs have re-spawned. It's fairly amateurish, ESO development should have done better.

Daemons_Bane

Problem is that those murders are the best way to farm tainted blood, used as the style material for assassin armor.. If ZOS made it so that random villagers could not drop it, towns would go back to normal pretty fast

KICHZY

Sorry my so called "lame achievement" wrecked your "immersion". You know that cat...Phynaster? Why does he always stare at me when I visit Vulkhel Guard, He always wrecks my immersion.

Abeille

It will die out eventually. It is the novelty of the Blade of Woe.


...Then One Tamriel will be released and it will be chaos again.

xeNNNNN

attackjet wrote: »

Wow, like uhhhhh.... Yeah.

I can't think of anything to say to this, like wtf...

some people like to half-rp on the forums I guess.

Daemons_Bane

Well OP has a point.. it does kind if ruin the feel of the cities

ShedsHisTail

Vangy wrote: »

Just give it a month or 2, and when those who want the achieves are done, things will go back to being peaceful.... Its just that the most recent DLC was pertaining DB... and DB lore-wise is a group known for...well.. murder,hits and assassinations...

This ^^

darkstar2084

no discrimination against murderers! if i see a contract kill you will hear their blood curdling screams. the black sacrament and night mother wills it, no one is safe.

Daemons_Bane

darkstar2084 wrote: »

no discrimination against murderers! if i see a contract kill you will hear their blood curdling screams. the black sacrament and night mother wills it, no one is safe.

A contract, sure :-) the problem is those other 99% that gets killed all over

dem0n1k

If only players had the option to do something about these murd-diddly-urdlers! Like... opt-in PVP enforcers!


Too soon?

Daemons_Bane

dem0n1k wrote: »

If only players had the option to do something about these murd-diddly-urdlers! Like... opt-in PVP enforcers!


Too soon?

beating the dead horse more like :-)

Iluvrien

Even back when the Justice System was outlined, some of us suggested that these types of mechanics would lead to these kinds of situations.

We got called fear-mongers and were told that our concerns were unfounded.

All I can say now is something that rhymes with: "I sold you dough"

UltimaJoe777

Give it awhile, and the murders will subside some.

dem0n1k

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

If only players had the option to do something about these murd-diddly-urdlers! Like... opt-in PVP enforcers!


Too soon?

beating the dead horse more like :-)

Just a few more whacks to make sure it's not playing possum!

It seems to me there are players complaining that the recent rise in the Dark Brotherhood is turning once peaceful, serene towns into abattoirs & the mighty guards are powerless to stop them! Who could possible have the skill & fortitude to stop these fiends!? Lefty Lucy maybe

Daemons_Bane

I still think the easiest solution is making the blood not drop from neutral npcs

Neirymn

It's just too easy. ^^'

bedlom

Give it a few months and it will calm down.

SlappyThePoptart

One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach; all the damn vampires.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

If we can't hunt players down then we should at least beable to get the guards to do it for us, maybe you can put a bounty on another player and the more gold you pay the more guards go after them meaning it is harder for them to escape.

Lunarhound

Honestly, seeing as they've dropped the idea of player enforcers, I don't see anything wrong with giving other players the ability to call the guards in some way when they spot a crime. I was sneaking around swiping some stuff for a newly made character just the other day, and thinking how weird it was that I had to worry about NPC's seeing and reporting me, but players, for some reason, couldn't do a thing. If players could call the gaurds, it'd help drive crime to more secluded places within cities - alleyways, the interior of homes, etc. - where it makes more sense for them to be. Personally, I think it'd make being a thief/assassin more fun if I had to worry more about being seen out in the open, or in a crowded area.

scorpiodog

I'm one of the murderers - not AD, but in EP.

I think it is too easy, though. WAY TOO EASY. Easier than stealing. Kill any potential witnesses before you steal stuff, and there is no bounty. You can even assassinate the NPC witnesses in a Bank, easy. No guards, no bounty, and then you can safely loot the lockbox nice and easy with no NPC nagging you.

It's easy money and exp, but I don't do it that much anymore because it's not very fun and not even remotely challenging. And just like the knife twirling, the novelty wore off after a day or two. But if I get the mission from the Brotherhood to kill 10 innocent people, I'll do it.

There are a lot of things fun about DB DLC, but they really should have made a policy of "What happens in the Gold Coast Stays in the Gold Coast". It's forcing people to participate in an aspect of the game they didn't agree to or want (or they would have bought it).

Daemons_Bane

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

If we can't hunt players down then we should at least beable to get the guards to do it for us, maybe you can put a bounty on another player and the more gold you pay the more guards go after them meaning it is harder for them to escape.

In so many ways, NO! that would be an abused system in 10 seconds tops

Jaronking

Well you know what could have fixed all this justice system PVP but ZOS was to lazy to implement it.

thisisScoMan

I was one of these murderers.

Because the murder contracts were the way to level the DB skill line to keep going with the quest.

Then I hit DB 12 and I stopped.

There's probably many doing the same. Once they hit DB12, what's the point of continuing?

Oh yeah, the tainted blood.

Well people might want that too.

Daemons_Bane

thisisScoMan wrote: »

I was one of these murderers.

Because the murder contracts were the way to level the DB skill line to keep going with the quest.

Then I hit DB 12 and I stopped.

There's probably many doing the same. Once they hit DB12, what's the point of continuing?

Oh yeah, the tainted blood.

Well people might want that too.

I really don't think that the contracts are the issue.. Try going to Anvil, and run around the back of the chapel for example.. those 4 npcs spend 95% of their time dead, and they are not on any contracts.. it's the blood