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I Hate the Assassin Personality when the Knife Disappears

Ethromelb14_ESO
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If the knife doesn't show, the character just looks silly. And I hate even more when the PC raises his arm up to look at the blade (while it's invisible). It just looks like he's checking his fingernails. It's hard to believe a PC is a tough warrior while he's checking his nails every few seconds, and fidgeting his hands constantly, like he has "Spirit Fingers".
Edited by Ethromelb14_ESO on June 21, 2016 1:30PM
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  • jrgray93
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    My initial reaction was the same. The idle stance without the knife just looks silly and unnatural.
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  • BlackSparrow
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    I don't mind the idle stance... it's the walk that drives me nuts. It's obviously modeled for a guy, and my assassin is a very curvy lady. She has wider hip-bones than a guy, so there should be a little sway to her gait.

    A pity. I'd love it if it weren't for that one really awkward animation. :neutral:

    (Though, yeah, the personality is pretty fidgety. XD )
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    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • SolarCat02
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    I use it on my dual wielding character, and it fits.

    Doesn't look so cool on my magicka healer. :p

    I haven't seen the figits without the Blade showing, though.
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  • Duiwel
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    I don't mind the idle stance... it's the walk that drives me nuts. It's obviously modeled for a guy, and my assassin is a very curvy lady. She has wider hip-bones than a guy, so there should be a little sway to her gait.

    A pity. I'd love it if it weren't for that one really awkward animation. :neutral:

    (Though, yeah, the personality is pretty fidgety. XD )

    It IS meant for a guy...

    You just have to wait for the lusty Argonian personality :wink:
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  • Ethromelb14_ESO
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    jrgray93 wrote: »
    My initial reaction was the same. The idle stance without the knife just looks silly and unnatural.

    Why couldn't they just have the PC pull out a cloth and wipe the blood off the knife, every so often? There is a lot of killing after all. Or make them sharpen the blade like we've constantly seen NPC's doing, while standing idle throughout various towns?

    Don't get me wrong ... I like the flipping of the knife, but Zen, you didn't have to make the PC look like they're in love with the blade. I could have done without the "Let me look at myself in the reflection of the blade animation.

    I can hear the guards now. "See that guys right there? Yeah, the one covering his face, and drawing his weapon constantly in public? Why is he looking at his knife like that? Yeah ... he's up to no good. Watch him, carefully!"

    "There he goes again ... looking at his knife! What's wrong with this guy?"
    Edited by Ethromelb14_ESO on June 21, 2016 1:47PM
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    It IS meant for a guy...

    You just have to wait for the lusty Argonian personality :wink:

    But why? Why can't my female assassin also do the cool knife flip and run with her shoulder forward? She's not a femme fatale who uses feminine wiles--she's cold-blooded killer who sneaks up and stabs as much as any man. Why can't she use this personality with some appropriate adjustments to make her walk and run like her basic anatomy would dictate?
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    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • xilfxlegion
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    I don't mind the idle stance... it's the walk that drives me nuts. It's obviously modeled for a guy, and my assassin is a very curvy lady. She has wider hip-bones than a guy, so there should be a little sway to her gait.

    A pity. I'd love it if it weren't for that one really awkward animation. :neutral:

    (Though, yeah, the personality is pretty fidgety. XD )


    agreed. the walk is horrible.
  • Ethromelb14_ESO
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    Oh yeah, I hate the running animation, too. It looks like they were going for a ninja-like animation, but failed. The PC just looks elbow stiff; like he caught Bursitis in his arm and never got it checked out.
    Edited by Ethromelb14_ESO on June 21, 2016 1:59PM
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    Strength of character is not a physical thing. -E
    Walking a mile in someone else's shoes, has nothing to do with the path taken. -E

    An accusation of elitism, is an indirect recognition of one's own inferiority. -E

    The best way to prove someone wrong, is to do better yourself. -E

    I keep forgetting to remember to get a photographic memory.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I'd like a pimp personality instead

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  • camilla_noctis
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    The posture of the assassin personality really bothers me too, and I think it's how my character leans back even though there's nothing behind her... just doesn't look natural. And then there's this stiff arm just being held out in front for no reason - looks tiring actually.

    I thought personalities would be really cool, just needs tweaking.
    Edited by camilla_noctis on June 21, 2016 2:02PM
  • The Uninvited
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    They should have left as it was. With the knife showing on the hips when not drawn and with the knife drawn when running. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you please ask the devs to bring the personality back to the originally intended one?
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  • codybrewer78b14_ESO
    I've noticed the knife disappears if you change costumes. You can toggle the personality off and back on to fix it. My real complaint about the assassin personality is the character doesn't just do it while you are idle. It does it all the time. So I could be walking or jumping and they'll still be flipping the knife in the air. Looks so stupid!
  • MarcoPolo
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    I like the idol part but the walking looks so unnatural, its kinda like "my arm my arm iv broke my arm LOOKS"
  • Ravinsild
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    It IS meant for a guy...

    You just have to wait for the lusty Argonian personality :wink:

    But why? Why can't my female assassin also do the cool knife flip and run with her shoulder forward? She's not a femme fatale who uses feminine wiles--she's cold-blooded killer who sneaks up and stabs as much as any man. Why can't she use this personality with some appropriate adjustments to make her walk and run like her basic anatomy would dictate?

    I'm a-ok with a very curvy lady getting that Widowmaker ass-sway. +1 from me.

  • Ravinsild
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    They should have left as it was. With the knife showing on the hips when not drawn and with the knife drawn when running. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you please ask the devs to bring the personality back to the originally intended one?

    Why did they change it? Due to complaints of "I CAN'T SEE MY REAL WEAPON!!!" ?
  • Dymence
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    I'm pretty sure it's actually a bug? The way it was on the PTS was cool, now it just looks ridiculous. Holding some air with your right hand, nice. Really hoping for a fix on this one.
  • Duiwel
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    It IS meant for a guy...

    You just have to wait for the lusty Argonian personality :wink:

    But why? Why can't my female assassin also do the cool knife flip and run with her shoulder forward? She's not a femme fatale who uses feminine wiles--she's cold-blooded killer who sneaks up and stabs as much as any man. Why can't she use this personality with some appropriate adjustments to make her walk and run like her basic anatomy would dictate?

    No one said you couldn't but don't complain about it then because I can promise you the female personalities will be similar on male chars. :wink:
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  • Molag_Crow
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    I'd like a pimp personality instead

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    LOL

    I can't wait for the "Mad man" personality that was seen in the recent DATAMINE... it's going to be awesome.
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  • The Uninvited
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    Ravinsild wrote: »
    They should have left as it was. With the knife showing on the hips when not drawn and with the knife drawn when running. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you please ask the devs to bring the personality back to the originally intended one?

    Why did they change it? Due to complaints of "I CAN'T SEE MY REAL WEAPON!!!" ?

    I think it was interfering with some other animations (like call mount) and instead of fixing it they disabled a few parts because, you know, logic...
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  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    WIthout the knife and at some angles it looks like your char is fiddling with his willy :P Maybe its not an assassin personality but an exhibitionist masturbator personality.
    Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on June 22, 2016 7:28AM
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    No one said you couldn't but don't complain about it then because I can promise you the female personalities will be similar on male chars. :wink:

    But see, that's exactly what I want! I want my lady to be able to use this personality, but I can't, because when she's using this personality, she walks and runs like she's got something between her legs. We women have a lower center of gravity and wider-spaced hips, and thus we move our weight a little differently than men. I don't need her hip sway to be sexy... I need a hip sway to be female. That's all I'm saying. XP
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    My Girls:
    "If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"

    Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
    Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
    Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
    Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
    Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
    Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
    Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
    Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
    Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
    Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
    Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
    Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
    Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
    Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
    Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
    Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
    Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"

    (Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)
  • wayfarerx
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    Honestly I don't really like the assassin personality at all. I've only tried it on my Khajiit murder-cat, but it makes her stand and move around really awkwardly. I can't decide if she holds her arm away from her body because she has a bad rash she doesn't want to irritate or is trying to pantomime holding an invisible beach ball. And the running stance is just weird, IDK why anyone would walk around like that without a physical disability. I don't think I've seen the missing knife problem because I stopped using that personality really quickly.

    Really hoping future personalities are a bit more subtle.
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  • Xerosus
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    The running animation is just.. LOL
  • Miszou
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    You just have to wait for the lusty Argonian personality :wink:

    :o

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  • newtinmpls
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    If the knife doesn't show, the character just looks silly. And I hate even more when the PC raises his arm up to look at the blade (while it's invisible). It just looks like he's checking his fingernails. It's hard to believe a PC is a tough warrior while he's checking his nails every few seconds, and fidgeting his hands constantly, like he has "Spirit Fingers".

    Ohhhh... that explains the really ... weird looking guy I saw in the bank the other day.
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  • Ghettokid
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    For me assasin personality looks more like it is ment for woman characters. Cause no man stands like that. Or maybe some of them but not many
  • MaxwellC
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    Yeah the Assassins idle stance without the knife looks silly especially if you have the Mercenary helmet on like I do. I don't see the resemblance of an assassin in that idle stance which has my head tilted looking like I'm having a "what was that" moment to some annoying person.
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  • PurifedBladez
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    It kinda reminds me of the flirty personality in DCUO. The walk and the stance are very poorly done imo. I was using it because if helps the weapon swapping animation glitch a little bit but I just could take seein my character run like Count Dracula without a cloak.
  • altemriel
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    If the knife doesn't show, the character just looks silly. And I hate even more when the PC raises his arm up to look at the blade (while it's invisible). It just looks like he's checking his fingernails. It's hard to believe a PC is a tough warrior while he's checking his nails every few seconds, and fidgeting his hands constantly, like he has "Spirit Fingers".



    I hate the assasin personality because the facial expression changes so much. My altmer is really pretty usually, but with that personality turned on, the look in her eyes looked like mad, I had to turn it off :smiley:
  • nimander99
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    Not once has my knife 'appeared' when I enter this stance. Since day one of DB my guy just slinks around with an empty right hand... I assume this will be fixed eventually?
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