Taverns Made More Useful, and Re-purposed

Ethromelb14_ESO

I went in to a tavern, and found it to be very empty; and I thought to myself ... What if players got a bonus for logging out in a tavern, and being in there for at least 30 minutes? And when they re-log in, their character will either be notified of a secret location to a treasure (that has no other way to being discovered), or they gain a temporary bonus - depending on the the tavern they logged out in. I originally proposed 1 hour for the log out, or hang out period, but some thought that might be a little too long.

The buried treasure comes from, perhaps, a conversation that takes place over drinks while you're logged out, and now your PC knows where to look. The timer for the bonus begins once the player leaves the tavern, and will not reset until the full hour, the bonus is active has expired. This encourages parties to meet in taverns, and makes them useful.

Each tavern offers only one specific bonus; but all taverns offer the "Good Fortune" bonus if at least 10 members have either remained in the tavern for at least an hour, or logged out for at least a half, while in the tavern.


The bonuses could be (from):

1) Being drunk - increasing defense for an hour.

2) A bar fight - that increases damage for an hour.

3) Eating well - Increase to health.

4) Observing a never before seen magic trick - Increase to magicka recovery for an hour.

5) Winning an arm-wrestling contest - Increase to stamina recovery for an hour.

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

7) Being a Milk Drinker - Improved heals for an hour.

8) Gambling all night, and winning - 20% more gold from killed enemies and looted chests for an hour.

9) Having a guild victory celebration/party - (At least 10 guild mates have to have logged out for an hour in the same tavern.)
And if multiple guild mates log out in the same tavern, the guild gets a special bonus of good fortune, to help their chances of getting a rare drop.

This will give the taverns greater purpose, immerse players, and promote guild/group coordination. And remember, an hour isn't very long. Players often spend that much time just standing around goofing off in front of the Daily's location, or trying to get a four-man group together. And a 10 player prerequisite to gain the "Good Fortune" bonus, makes it not super easy to acquire - so it's fair.

I have other bonuses that could work, but I wanted to keep it short. Thanks for reading.

Cazzy

Awesome! I've always said more needs to be done to bring people together. Here's a similar post @Gidorick made regarding the same issue!

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237623/advanced-inns-and-tavern-concept/p1

Saoirse_Siobhan

I like! I do wish I had more incentive to hang out in taverns!

dem0n1k

I like all of the OP's ideas except for being in the tavern for an hour.... AN HOUR !?! That's just too much game time for me to stay in one spot.

I've often wondered if duellers in Cyrodiil use some of the far flung lonely taverns that are dotted around the map... they seem perfect for it

DocFrost72

I'd go for this, AND for any events ZOS wants to throw our way in taverns too! (Maybe the new elder scrolls card game is available there...)

Drinking contests, all the stuff you mentioned but possible to do for the bonus OR log offline and randomly have one selected.

Saoirse_Siobhan

DocFrost72 wrote: »

I'd go for this, AND for any events ZOS wants to throw our way in taverns too! (Maybe the new elder scrolls card game is available there...)

Drinking contests, all the stuff you mentioned but possible to do for the bonus OR log offline and randomly have one selected.

Completely agree with drinking contests, so long as our beloved friend Sam isn't invited!

AugustoCP

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

Gotta keep it PG 13

But, yeah, awesome idea!

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Some cool ideas but where's the Brothel at?

Some npc dialogue hint at their existence...

Also bit off topic, a player housing convo I had the other day involved some of the suggestions you mentioned. Also i had some awesome ideas but no point saying, it'll just be a big post no ones interested in.

UltimaJoe777

Brawls have been something I have wanted to see for awhile, but not between player and NPC

dodgehopper_ESO

They could have a card game as well, or dice. You see npc's gambling all the time, and this is a mature rated game so why not?

Oakmontowls_ESO

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Some cool ideas but where's the Brothel at?

Some npc dialogue hint at their existence...

The Ebony flask in ebonheart is one.

lookstwice

Would love to have brawls!!! Maybe even allow us to bet 10 g to go against another player or guild hosted brawling events and a gm could hold the bets and dispense to the winners.

karakondzula

Tavern games, like chess, card games with an option of betting gold or gear. Fist fight sounds great too.

Eshelmen

I think there should be a reason besides a small boost to "hang out" in a tavern. For one, all of my crafting tables aren't in there, there's no way shrine in there, no bank, guild store etc...

So besides a measly buff for an hour, why else would you want to do that for? Nothing in taverns right now are worth my time to buy. White and green foods and drinks, a couple of white and blue recipes, etc...
If ZOS made taverns a necessary place to visit, such as the undaunted locations for undaunted quests, mage guild quests at the mages guild, etc...


Make taverns be another way for quick access to a dungeon? By adding daily group quest boads in there. Craglorn is getting revamped right? So why not have taverns be the start of random 4 player group quests around Tamriel?

Even if this was a bad idea, I wouldn't even bother to change my usual routine to logging in and out at a tavern each time, it's just not worth it.


Now, if ESO introduced taverns as an official place for accepting and completing guild quests, 4 man group quests(not just in Craglorn), added a new way to manually queue up for dungeons or something of that nature(quest boards in the taverns), then yes, I think this idea is awesome.

Ep1kMalware

kinda dumb being there for an hour. Even if they offered gold mats I'd do something else. Would be neat if you could over hear 'gossip and obtain local quests, or a treasure map or crap like that. Or have a random drunk tell you something neat in exchange for a drink.

bedlom

Would be cool : )

Gidorick

AugustoCP wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

Gotta keep it PG 13

But, yeah, awesome idea!

Wait... why @AugustoCP ? It's an M Rated game

Ethromelb14_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

Gotta keep it PG 13

But, yeah, awesome idea!

Wait... why @AugustoCP ? It's an M Rated game

He was just joking about how I typed it out. It was very PG.

Foxesz

In all honesty the idea is great but could cause some issues for other players. Yes, I know roleplayers are a minority but the places they often socialise at are taverns and even without your ideas PvP/PvE'ers come around to ruin their fun by trolling around and whatnot. Getting more people in there would only force these players to give up on socialising in taverns because it'd be unbearable to RP there.

Tan9oSuccka

I like these ideas. Although, PvP may prove more difficult against Altmer and their improved healing.

"Being a Milk Drinker - Improved heals for an hour."

Gidorick

Thanks for the tag and link to my thread @Cazzy !

I'm liking the ideas put forth but I disagree that everything needs to give players a stat buff. Did food and drink, sure! I love the idea of a. Defense buff from being drunk (it should be accompanied by some visual effects too)

Arm Wrestling and Bar Fights? Why can't those be end goals in and of themselves? Maybe some measly gold reward or let players wager before activities.

Bar activities should be fun enough to draw players in by themselves.

Undaunted should definitively have dailies that are turned into them at the bar.

No matter how they do it though Inns need a purpose in ESO. We all agree on that!

Ethromelb14_ESO

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

kinda dumb being there for an hour. Even if they offered gold mats I'd do something else. Would be neat if you could over hear 'gossip and obtain local quests, or a treasure map or crap like that. Or have a random drunk tell you something neat in exchange for a drink.

That's pretty much everything I stated in the OP. The hour was just so no one claims that acquiring these bonuses would be too easy. You can't please everyone. If it were less than an hour, then no one would be hanging out in the tavern, would they?

Gidorick

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

If it were less than an hour, then no one would be hanging out in the tavern, would they?

That's kind of my point about doling out buffs... the inn activities need to be the end goal not a means to an end.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

Thanks for the tag and link to my thread @Cazzy !

I'm liking the ideas put forth but I disagree that everything needs to give players a stat buff. Did food and drink, sure! I love the idea of a. Defense buff from being drunk (it should be accompanied by some visual effects too)

Arm Wrestling and Bar Fights? Why can't those be end goals in and of themselves? Maybe some measly gold reward or let players wager before activities.

Bar activities should be fun enough to draw players in by themselves.

Undaunted should definitively have dailies that are turned into them at the bar.

No matter how they do it though Inns need a purpose in ESO. We all agree on that!

The stat bonuses are intended to make sure everybody has a spot they can choose from, to hang at, that will be different from their friends. It is then possible to meet new players at a specific tavern. Concerning lag, it is better if players aren't all clumped up in one locale.

Gidorick

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

Gotta keep it PG 13

But, yeah, awesome idea!

Wait... why @AugustoCP ? It's an M Rated game

He was just joking about how I typed it out. It was very PG.

In The Elder Scrolls there exists a Prostitution Guild. Why not have players "service" other players and both players get a buff and the Prostitute gets gold?

There doesn't have to be visuals attached to this.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

Thanks for the tag and link to my thread @Cazzy !

I'm liking the ideas put forth but I disagree that everything needs to give players a stat buff. Did food and drink, sure! I love the idea of a. Defense buff from being drunk (it should be accompanied by some visual effects too)

Arm Wrestling and Bar Fights? Why can't those be end goals in and of themselves? Maybe some measly gold reward or let players wager before activities.

Bar activities should be fun enough to draw players in by themselves.

Undaunted should definitively have dailies that are turned into them at the bar.

No matter how they do it though Inns need a purpose in ESO. We all agree on that!

The idea is to suggest, that the tavern mainly be for logging out and being able to log back in later for a little bonus. However, it will possible for online players to use it as a hang out spot where they can coordinate they're next dungeon plans, or wait for group finder to queue up. Reasonably speaking, the timer could be lowered to 30 minutes ... just so it's not excruciating for impatient ones.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

6) Renting a room, but never alone and not sleeping - Increase to health recovery for an hour.

Gotta keep it PG 13

But, yeah, awesome idea!

Wait... why @AugustoCP ? It's an M Rated game

He was just joking about how I typed it out. It was very PG.

In The Elder Scrolls there exists a Prostitution Guild. Why not have players "service" other players and both players get a buff and the Prostitute gets gold?

There doesn't have to be visuals attached to this.

They may still consider it suggestive which will be enough to cause problems. They couldn't openly suggest it's okay to wh*r* - I don't think, at least. Well at least not in that fashion. However, if it is okay, I would be cool with it.

mb10

Great idea! Giving players a reason to go into inns would be so cool

There needs to be a good enough reason for it to happen for even casual players. Maybe crafting writ boards being a board in an inn instead?

Not sure but some of the ideas here are great!

AndyTGD

Gidorick wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

If it were less than an hour, then no one would be hanging out in the tavern, would they?

That's kind of my point about doling out buffs... the inn activities need to be the end goal not a means to an end.

I agree with this. The idea of making the taverns more functionally useful and social hubs is a great idea though. With so much of ESO geared solely towards combat, tavern games and social events (unique freebies etc) would be a good way of diversifying what ESO has to offer without yet another gimmick which ties into the combat mechanics. Having said that, I do like the idea of using taverns more for quest hubs. Not entirely sure why the undaunted stuff doesn't solely operate out of the taverns.

Gidorick

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

They may still consider it suggestive which will be enough to cause problems. They couldn't openly suggest it's okay to *** - I don't think, at least. Well at least not in that fashion. However, if it is okay, I would be cool with it.

lol. Yea. I know. Western society is too prudish to "handle" such things.

Elara_Northwind

Our guild is named and based around a tavern theme, because it is a very social guild and we literally log on at 8pm on a Friday night and talk nonsense on teamspeak over our wine/beer, I love it! In reality though, the taverns are pretty lifeless in the game, and so something like this would be great!