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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.<Noricum>
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✭Malamar1229 wrote: »Okay, let's get this out of the way.
You CAN use Reach without the Master staff.
The damage lowers by 2k, so a measly 1k in Cyrodiil. The cost, admittedly, jumps to about 3k. Pulse is 800 mag cheaper.
This is still perfectly doable in Cyro, you don't have to go Master or GTFO. Of course, Master users have an advantage. But I doubt it's gonna change the outcome of battle unless you have super equal ground, as a duel between sorcs of equal skill.
The real reason why Master is such a glaring choice is that we have no better alternatives.
Remember Spinner+Lich+Infernal Guardian? Nerfed, two out of three. Skoria? Useless on sorc. Pulse+Asylum? Frag nerfed. No Veli or Selene equivalent.
The moral of the story is that all the nerfs done to promote variety have actually backfired and condemned us to a certain gear-lock.
Can we, like, get a few buffs for a change now?
Master staff dmg bonusis effected by CP, so the difference is more than 2k in CP pvp (which does not mean Master staff is a better option there than on no cp). Just to clear that up.
Yeah, unbuffed tooltip for me drops from 9k to 6k, so 1.5k difference in Cyro.
I just can't see anyone picking that deal if we had, say, Skoria proc off of direct damage. Or Slimecraw first boni being max mag.
On the matter of cost, you're wildly exaggerating, Mina.
What is 800 mag every six seconds? Sure, if you simply rotate shield-shield-reachx4, it'll hurt. But with Curse mixed in, a frag proc and maybe even Fury, the impact to your sustain is bearable.
Except that means you slot crush shock and reach to not have to spam reach for frags and sustained damage.
Which means your combo isn’t as tight and you drop a 5th skill like inner light. So now you drop 2k mag and 10% crit
That’s a lot of damage to lose just so you can run reach and shock
No? Why would I slot both?
I have a Frag available pretty much every rotation. Frontbar the darn shield and cast Curse from the infused backbar, so you don't waste a damage second on weaving with a shield.
Inner Light gives me 3% more damage. Negligible. If you aim for killing potential, Mines and Cage are better options.
I dont think ive ever killed anyone open world with mines. Even potatoes move around them now.
Mines would be cool if they had a tiny aoe for the dmg part of the explosion. BAM suddenly vaible again
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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.0 -
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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.<Noricum>
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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.0 -
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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.Minalan owes me a beer.
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I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
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Fasold666✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)Edited by Fasold666 on January 20, 2018 7:19PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potatoEdited by Waffennacht on January 20, 2018 7:37PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
No you´re not - If they clear mines with mistform you have enough time to use conversion unless they stop early.
They either use 2x mistform to clear mines or you get 1x darkdeal.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
No you´re not - If they clear mines with mistform you have enough time to use conversion unless they stop early.
They either use 2x mistform to clear mines or you get 1x darkdeal.
Or you just clear a few in 1 sec, bash, and kill. Esp with the new lock out mechanics.
It's cool, if you guys actually have success with mines outside of duels, more power to you.
I just haven't seen @Lexxypwns or @zParallaxz or @Minno ever die to mines open world lul0 -
Fasold666✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
Just try it out. Never had an issue with that before. The mistform + reapplying mine game is always a hilarious situation.
And for the use of dark conversion: Also works in many cases without LoS (yes also against good opponents) if combined with mine kiting and especially if you use bol instead of streak.Edited by Fasold666 on January 20, 2018 8:59PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
Just try it out. Never had an issue with that before. The mistform + reapplying mine game is always a hilarious situation.
And for the use of dark conversion: Also works in many cases without LoS (yes also against good opponents) if combined with mine kiting and especially if you use bol instead of streak.
Mist is a valid counter for mines because it forces them off their position OR allows you to gain positioning you desire while taking very little damage from the initial cast and giving yourself time before mines can re-arm while also ensuring they don’t hit several lines from the second cast.
Harness+mist form combined serve as a better counter by proc’ing all the return from harness and using that to pay for most of your mist. The mag sorc is going to struggle to sustain mines in that situation.
Neither are really needed, just make sure you’ve got time to recover before curse+frag can hit you and you can just eat the mine damage usuallyEdited by Lexxypwns on January 20, 2018 9:25PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
It's cool, if you guys actually have success with mines outside of duels, more power to you.
Wait was this not about a very specific dueling situation where mistform supposedly counters mines?
I´ve dueled quite a bit on sorc and can safely say even against good opponents it does not (in duels).
Edit: Ofc only if you count no one dies ever as actually countering mines.Edited by Derra on January 21, 2018 9:01AM<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
No you´re not - If they clear mines with mistform you have enough time to use conversion unless they stop early.
They either use 2x mistform to clear mines or you get 1x darkdeal.
Or you just clear a few in 1 sec, bash, and kill. Esp with the new lock out mechanics.
It's cool, if you guys actually have success with mines outside of duels, more power to you.
I just haven't seen @Lexxypwns or @zParallaxz or @Minno ever die to mines open world lul
In my defense, they were terrible sorcs lol.
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✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »
I think it´s more psychological most of the time. They can be vaible for that but usually nowadays i encounter ppl that have atleast 1 tank that will just rolldodge and then blockeat the rest of them - making them not worth the slot.
Tss. Don't need to be a tank to roll through three of them. They should be considered AoE, so not dodgable.
They´re not dodgeable.
But dodge allows you to eat all 5 on a tank in ~1.5s.
Are you absolutely certain? The game doesn't consider them AoE, and I have sern many people rolling through three of my mines and taking very little damage.
People tend to 'bulk up' ready for that.. Ie stacking hots first, making sure all their defensive buffs are ready, having a burst heal or pot ready etc...
I often just shield-stack and walk through them, picking a time when I know my opponent isn't in a position to burst me at the same time.
Basically, its up to them when they trigger them.
And vamps just mist form them all and laugh at your horribly expensive ability that did nothing
Just reapply them and dark conversion in the time they mist form through the next mines and laugh at them instead because they are wasting their magicka. That's not a game they can win lol (atleast not in 1v1)
Unless they're running desert rose and r a Templar, then they net mag
Edit: and if you get conversion off without LoS you're facing a potato
No you´re not - If they clear mines with mistform you have enough time to use conversion unless they stop early.
They either use 2x mistform to clear mines or you get 1x darkdeal.
Or you just clear a few in 1 sec, bash, and kill. Esp with the new lock out mechanics.
It's cool, if you guys actually have success with mines outside of duels, more power to you.
I just haven't seen @Lexxypwns or @zParallaxz or @Minno ever die to mines open world lul
In my defense, they were terrible sorcs lol.
There is a reason I am friendly/group with Rinaldo, Minalan , Makkir, and Irylia lol
Ive been out for 7-8 months, I’m a terrible Sorc! Lol.
I used to use mines after a potion for the free cost spell, and I kept it on the overload bar. I only used it to get someone to hesitate for a few seconds to setup burst. It’s hard to fight a stam build when they’re on top of you spamming ani-cancelled heavy attacks and wrecking blow.
Now I use the resto ult, it’s saved me more than mines ever had. Seriously though, who has the bar space for mines in open PVP? I might slot it if I’m dueling some stupid pet build because the mobs are dumb enough to blow themselves up.
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✭✭✭✭PS: Still no master staff. Will one of you please have pity on me and invite? Lol
Bah, you just need to convince yourself that you don't need it. That you're intentionally giving yourself a handicap cos your just that good..!
At least that's what I try to tell myself
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✭Crushing shock is better than reach against these blocknuggets.
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
It's cool, if you guys actually have success with mines outside of duels, more power to you.
Wait was this not about a very specific dueling situation where mistform supposedly counters mines?
I´ve dueled quite a bit on sorc and can safely say even against good opponents it does not (in duels).
Edit: Ofc only if you count no one dies ever as actually countering mines.
I was thinking BGs and open world, if this is about duels, then you are correct. I don't duel anymore.
Plus, I've been convinced balance does not revolve around 1v1 in this game and don't consider something that may or may not be OP in duels to be um... OP (kinda lost where I was going on that sentence)
And in a duel, if no one dies, then if it's not a pure tank I'm facing, I would have considered it a loss.
Um... In conclusion, mist form is good against mines Imo esp in a open world environment?
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Um... In conclusion, mist form is good against mines Imo esp in a open world environment?
Kinda - as mines imo become useless as soon as more than 1 enemy is involved that knows how to eat their dmg (be it mistform or rolldodge block).
If it´s 1v1 it´s still the same as the dueling scenario. Both will endlessly recast leading to a stalemate.<Noricum>
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If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.0 -
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If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.
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If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.
Tune cage doesn’t force drop block, it just CCs through block while keeping the block up for a second or so after the CC hits
This pretty much, plus the cost increase nerf next patch makes rune cage even less appealing.0 -
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If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.
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✭✭✭Rune Cage still goes through dodge, and despite popular stamina opinion, dodge is a hard counter to sorcs. And Streak CC is just awful to use, especially since it can be blocked.
Can you guys elaborate on that lingering block, please?
My understanding is that block persists on casting Rune Cage, as its effect is delayed. But when it finally hits, block should be negated.
I mean, never heard a fossilizing DK complain about that.0 -
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If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.
Tune cage doesn’t force drop block, it just CCs through block while keeping the block up for a second or so after the CC hits
This pretty much, plus the cost increase nerf next patch makes rune cage even less appealing.
Wait... what? They're gonna increase the cost of Rune Cage AGAIN?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
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✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
If I were you guys and didn't have a master staff I'd go with 5 amber 5 shackle 1 domi and use shock + rune cage.
As Malamar mentioned, rune cage is actually very good against these block tanks and roll dodge monkey nightblades imo, not to mention guaranteed meteor combo
I'd have to take off boundless storm though but oh well life is life.
Tune cage doesn’t force drop block, it just CCs through block while keeping the block up for a second or so after the CC hits
This pretty much, plus the cost increase nerf next patch makes rune cage even less appealing.
Wait... what? They're gonna increase the cost of Rune Cage AGAIN?
Need frequent sorc nerfs to keep the brawlheads happy.
=/0
