ESO Japan will use existing servers

UrQuan

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

The bold part is your problem. Where did ZOS ever say there was going to be a Japanese server? The only thing I've seen anywhere is some deluded players making assumptions that there would be one. What the people in this thread are saying isn't this:

Genomic wrote: »

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

It's this:
"Japanese server? When did ZOS say there would be a Japanese server? ZOS never even entertained the idea. Of course there was never going to be one, ZOS never said there would."

That's a big difference. Just because some players made assumptions, that doesn't mean the people pointing out now that there was never anything official about a Japanese server are "backpedalling" as you put it. Go back and look at which players assumed that there would be a Japanese server. Do you see any of those players posting in this thread saying there was never going to be one?

I didn't think so.

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers

***. Show me proof of any of this. Especially of where a Japanese server was ever confirmed. And it would have to be confirmed by ZOS - DMM can't make a Japanese server without ZOS saying they can, so any confirmation can only come from ZOS.

ИВАН_ВОДКА

i always trust to my proofs, if you dont - you always can submitt a ticket and ask ZOS yourself

Genomic

UrQuan wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

The bold part is your problem. Where did ZOS ever say there was going to be a Japanese server? The only thing I've seen anywhere is some deluded players making assumptions that there would be one. What the people in this thread are saying isn't this:

Genomic wrote: »

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

It's this:
"Japanese server? When did ZOS say there would be a Japanese server? ZOS never even entertained the idea. Of course there was never going to be one, ZOS never said there would."

That's a big difference. Just because some players made assumptions, that doesn't mean the people pointing out now that there was never anything official about a Japanese server are "backpedalling" as you put it. Go back and look at which players assumed that there would be a Japanese server. Do you see any of those players posting in this thread saying there was never going to be one?

I didn't think so.

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers

***. Show me proof of any of this. Especially of where a Japanese server was ever confirmed. And it would have to be confirmed by ZOS - DMM can't make a Japanese server without ZOS saying they can, so any confirmation can only come from ZOS.

What I'm seeing is a whole lot of after the fact "Oh we always knew there wasn't going to be a Japanese server" when there was nary a contradictory peep from these same people when everyone was hyped up about the idea.

Waffennacht

I still don't even know wtf Tamriel One is...

Japanese server huh? I actually never saw a thread about this

UrQuan

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

i always trust to my proofs, if you dont - you always can submitt a ticket and ask ZOS yourself

You haven't provided any proofs! Show me one link anywhere that has any official announcement of a Japanese server. Just one. So far you haven't been able to.

Genomic wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

The bold part is your problem. Where did ZOS ever say there was going to be a Japanese server? The only thing I've seen anywhere is some deluded players making assumptions that there would be one. What the people in this thread are saying isn't this:

Genomic wrote: »

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

It's this:
"Japanese server? When did ZOS say there would be a Japanese server? ZOS never even entertained the idea. Of course there was never going to be one, ZOS never said there would."

That's a big difference. Just because some players made assumptions, that doesn't mean the people pointing out now that there was never anything official about a Japanese server are "backpedalling" as you put it. Go back and look at which players assumed that there would be a Japanese server. Do you see any of those players posting in this thread saying there was never going to be one?

I didn't think so.

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers

***. Show me proof of any of this. Especially of where a Japanese server was ever confirmed. And it would have to be confirmed by ZOS - DMM can't make a Japanese server without ZOS saying they can, so any confirmation can only come from ZOS.

What I'm seeing is a whole lot of after the fact "Oh we always knew there wasn't going to be a Japanese server" when there was nary a contradictory peep from these same people when everyone was hyped up about the idea.

I didn't ever see where people were hyped up about the idea... I haven't really been on the forums in the last couple of months, though, due to work being way too busy. So how many threads and how many posts are we talking about when you say "everyone was hyped up about the idea"?

wayfarerx

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers
- We also will add Tamriel One, and you will never see empty vet locations again(its the same as MERGE 3 servers into ONE)

So you realize that to us you are just a random guy typing stuff over the internet. You're not providing sources or links, you have no actual proof of anything. I mean, I can type stuff too. Let's give this a shot:

Matt Firor in a closed meeting of ESO developers mid June 2016:
- Guys, wayfarerx is obviously our most talented, eloquent and well informed player, let's make sure he only gets divines drops from undaunted keys. In fact, go ahead and put impenetrable in his loot table as well, he likes to PvP sometimes.

Matt's insight into my character nonwithstanding, how exactly is that supposed to convince anyone of anything?

nimander99

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

I don't remember a Japanese Server being announced... But I do remember a Chinese (server or client) not sure which was announced recently.

nimander99

UrQuan wrote: »

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

i always trust to my proofs, if you dont - you always can submitt a ticket and ask ZOS yourself

You haven't provided any proofs! Show me one link anywhere that has any official announcement of a Japanese server. Just one. So far you haven't been able to.

Genomic wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

The bold part is your problem. Where did ZOS ever say there was going to be a Japanese server? The only thing I've seen anywhere is some deluded players making assumptions that there would be one. What the people in this thread are saying isn't this:

Genomic wrote: »

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

It's this:
"Japanese server? When did ZOS say there would be a Japanese server? ZOS never even entertained the idea. Of course there was never going to be one, ZOS never said there would."

That's a big difference. Just because some players made assumptions, that doesn't mean the people pointing out now that there was never anything official about a Japanese server are "backpedalling" as you put it. Go back and look at which players assumed that there would be a Japanese server. Do you see any of those players posting in this thread saying there was never going to be one?

I didn't think so.

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers

***. Show me proof of any of this. Especially of where a Japanese server was ever confirmed. And it would have to be confirmed by ZOS - DMM can't make a Japanese server without ZOS saying they can, so any confirmation can only come from ZOS.

What I'm seeing is a whole lot of after the fact "Oh we always knew there wasn't going to be a Japanese server" when there was nary a contradictory peep from these same people when everyone was hyped up about the idea.

I didn't ever see where people were hyped up about the idea... I haven't really been on the forums in the last couple of months, though, due to work being way too busy. So how many threads and how many posts are we talking about when you say "everyone was hyped up about the idea"?

This is fun, I'm having fun, are you having fun @UrQuan ? I'm sending a ticket to zos that says "I demand proofs of Japanese Server" Then I'll hold my breath till I get a response.

FortheloveofKrist

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

UrQuan

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

Aren't those just Cyrillic characters? I'd expect a lot of Russians would use them in their forum names.

nimander99

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

Pretty sure its the same guy. And I remember the thread you are referring.

UrQuan

nimander99 wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

Pretty sure its the same guy. And I remember the thread you are referring.

Hmm, clearly I missed some forum drama lol

FortheloveofKrist

nimander99 wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

Pretty sure its the same guy. And I remember the thread you are referring.

Okay, because the argumentation in this thread is equally baffling as that one.

nimander99

UrQuan wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

Pretty sure its the same guy. And I remember the thread you are referring.

Hmm, clearly I missed some forum drama lol

Yeah I'm pretty sure what happened to him was the same thing that happened to me at launch of DB. My email was compromised so It was saying my account was 'Suspended' on the ESO account site. I was able to get everything sorted out though and secured my email which was being accessed in Japan and South Korea... Ironically.

Had that not been caught by the new security protocols though, I would still be un-aware that my email was hacked. So good on ZoS for catching that.

Tandor

wayfarerx wrote: »

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers
- We also will add Tamriel One, and you will never see empty vet locations again(its the same as MERGE 3 servers into ONE)

So you realize that to us you are just a random guy typing stuff over the internet. You're not providing sources or links, you have no actual proof of anything. I mean, I can type stuff too. Let's give this a shot:

Matt Firor in a closed meeting of ESO developers mid June 2016:
- Guys, wayfarerx is obviously our most talented, eloquent and well informed player, let's make sure he only gets divines drops from undaunted keys. In fact, go ahead and put impenetrable in his loot table as well, he likes to PvP sometimes.

Matt's insight into my character nonwithstanding, how exactly is that supposed to convince anyone of anything?

Well it convinces me! You lucky devil you, getting all those drops !

Kharnis

nimander99 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

i always trust to my proofs, if you dont - you always can submitt a ticket and ask ZOS yourself

You haven't provided any proofs! Show me one link anywhere that has any official announcement of a Japanese server. Just one. So far you haven't been able to.

Genomic wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

LOL, I love the backpedalling.

A few months ago:

Players: "Yay, we're going to have a Japanese server! This is a great sign. We all march forward to a marvellous sunlit upland together."

Now:

ZOS: "No Japanese server"

The bold part is your problem. Where did ZOS ever say there was going to be a Japanese server? The only thing I've seen anywhere is some deluded players making assumptions that there would be one. What the people in this thread are saying isn't this:

Genomic wrote: »

Players: "Japanese server? Who said there would be a Japanese server? We never even entertained the idea. Of course there never was going to be one, we all knew that."

It's this:
"Japanese server? When did ZOS say there would be a Japanese server? ZOS never even entertained the idea. Of course there was never going to be one, ZOS never said there would."

That's a big difference. Just because some players made assumptions, that doesn't mean the people pointing out now that there was never anything official about a Japanese server are "backpedalling" as you put it. Go back and look at which players assumed that there would be a Japanese server. Do you see any of those players posting in this thread saying there was never going to be one?

I didn't think so.

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

TESO pre-2016: plans to make separate server for JP, confirmed by DMM
Matt Firor on closed meeting of ESO developers near Spring 2016:
- Guys, population is lower than intended, we need cancel JP server, but bring JP localization, it can fill empty servers

***. Show me proof of any of this. Especially of where a Japanese server was ever confirmed. And it would have to be confirmed by ZOS - DMM can't make a Japanese server without ZOS saying they can, so any confirmation can only come from ZOS.

What I'm seeing is a whole lot of after the fact "Oh we always knew there wasn't going to be a Japanese server" when there was nary a contradictory peep from these same people when everyone was hyped up about the idea.

I didn't ever see where people were hyped up about the idea... I haven't really been on the forums in the last couple of months, though, due to work being way too busy. So how many threads and how many posts are we talking about when you say "everyone was hyped up about the idea"?

This is fun, I'm having fun, are you having fun @UrQuan ? I'm sending a ticket to zos that says "I demand proofs of Japanese Server" Then I'll hold my breath till I get a response.

A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof, and when you have a good proof it's because it's proven.

WonderY

Manpoints wrote: »

And my dreams of a sub 270 latency, dashed by the accountant. If only one tamriel resulted in world PVP, but I guess they have plenty of other issues to not fix at the moment.

I feel you bro. Looks like I'll always be outmaneuvered by those yankees with <20++ ping

Panth141

I can literally hear the sound of heads banging against walls

Foxesz

Man, Russians CAN be funny.

OGLezard

you think the cheaters and exploiters are bad now......just wait lol

Sleep

went to DMM's website and it says "Digitally Released: 2016/06/23 00:00"

BigBragg

If you watched the Bethesda E3 Twitch stream, they clearly stated a Japanese expansion was happening.

UrQuan

BigBragg wrote: »

If you watched the Bethesda E3 Twitch stream, they clearly stated a Japanese expansion was happening.

I've heard them say a Japanese client was happening (as in: the game client that you download now with Japanese language). That's what's on DMM as a pre-release at the moment. I've never seen anywhere from them that a Japanese server was happening, but please point me to where they said a server was happening.

BigBragg

UrQuan wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

If you watched the Bethesda E3 Twitch stream, they clearly stated a Japanese expansion was happening.

I've heard them say a Japanese client was happening (as in: the game client that you download now with Japanese language). That's what's on DMM as a pre-release at the moment. I've never seen anywhere from them that a Japanese server was happening, but please point me to where they said a server was happening.

The ESO section with Matt starts at 1:39, He talks about Japan around 1:42.

https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/v/72129877

UrQuan

BigBragg wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

If you watched the Bethesda E3 Twitch stream, they clearly stated a Japanese expansion was happening.

I've heard them say a Japanese client was happening (as in: the game client that you download now with Japanese language). That's what's on DMM as a pre-release at the moment. I've never seen anywhere from them that a Japanese server was happening, but please point me to where they said a server was happening.

The ESO section with Matt starts at 1:39, He talks about Japan around 1:42.

https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/v/72129877

And he said nothing about a Japanese server. He says (and this is an exact quote):

Matt from E3 stream wrote:

Tonight I'm very happy to announce that on June 23rd we'll be expanding internationally by launching Elder Scrolls Online in Japan.

That's it. That means that they're officially selling it in Japan. That's all. They're launching a Japanese client that will be sold in Japan. Nowhere in anything that he said does he say or imply that there will be a Japanese server.

BigBragg

Fair enough. Possible they would expect players to connect to where are they Dallas and Frankfurt? Just like the do with Australian customers.

ArchMikem

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

i submitted a ticket on DMM site, will see what the will answer

you all wrong but i am right

This is how Wars are won...or is it how they're started, I forget.

Sleep

http://eso.dmm.com/news/news160617_1092/
【2】エルダー・スクロールズ・オンライン日本語版のサーバー環境について教えてください
ゲームサーバーは、英語版The Elder Scrolls Onlineと同じサーバー環境です。
現行バージョンと同じ環境にてゲームプレイをお楽しみいただく予定です。

translated by google:
[2] Please tell us about the Elder Scroll's online Japanese version of the server environment
Game server is the same server environment as the English version of The Elder Scrolls Online.
It is scheduled to enjoy the game play in the same environment as the current version.

enjoy the latency and lag.

Paulington

Will be interesting to see if you can use kanji in ESO then as you currently can't use anything like kanji or Arabic abjad.

ИВАН_ВОДКА

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Is the OP someone who recently got banned? Or are there multiple people on here with those types of characters in their forum name?

@FortheloveofKrist and i was unbanned
ZOS autoscript warden is very bad, 4 accounts of me and friends was banned, and 2 of them already unbanned
CS is really a pain they cannot read our tickets properly lol and sometimes answering opposit things and such, like they read another ticket, not us lol

but all will be good