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[BUG] PURGE ALWAYS HITTING SAME SIX

Akgurd
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Since no one knew what the hell was going on with purge, we stepped up and did QA for ZOS.

As suspected, its bugged and we made proof video for you to review and test on your own.

ZOS, Please fix your game. And next time you change any alliance skill, try it with full group please!

[How Purge is failing on you]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQ3MR6l0z4

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  • Akgurd
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    How Purge is working :
    - It hits 6 people in your group (as tooltip clearly states)
    - It always hits same 6 person within 18m range (BUG)
    - Those that get purge is the ones that joined group earlier than the other (BUG)

    This is why people seeing Purge not working from time to time.
    Doesn't matter if its siege, poison, or the skills that is hitting you and making you debuffed.

    What matters is how soon you join the group.
    Aknight
  • Asmael
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    I guess the smart targeting is part of what was dropped with the changes to calculations made to improve Cyrodiil performance.

    #Worth?
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  • Crispen_Longbow
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    HAHAHA - Good to Know. Crispen is now required to be one of the first 6 when the group gets started!
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  • ataggs
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    This explains a ton! Thank for posting this!
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  • Zyle
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    Asmael wrote: »
    I guess the smart targeting is part of what was dropped with the changes to calculations made to improve Cyrodiil performance.

    #Worth?

    #WorthUntilIGroupWithMoreThan6 :trollface:

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    F helping my group. I'm going back to extended ritual and rebuilding my house in a better zip code.
  • Nilmot
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    Akgurd wrote: »
    How Purge is working :
    - It hits 6 people in your group (as tooltip clearly states)
    - It always hits same 6 person within 18m range (BUG)
    - Those that get purge is the ones that joined group earlier than the other (BUG)

    This is why people seeing Purge not working from time to time.
    Doesn't matter if its siege, poison, or the skills that is hitting you and making you debuffed.

    What matters is how soon you join the group.

    Does caster count as 1 of the 6 automatically, or can you be group-spotted out of your own cast as well?
    (sorry, can't watch video atm)
  • Akgurd
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    Nilmot wrote: »
    Akgurd wrote: »
    How Purge is working :
    - It hits 6 people in your group (as tooltip clearly states)
    - It always hits same 6 person within 18m range (BUG)
    - Those that get purge is the ones that joined group earlier than the other (BUG)

    This is why people seeing Purge not working from time to time.
    Doesn't matter if its siege, poison, or the skills that is hitting you and making you debuffed.

    What matters is how soon you join the group.

    Does caster count as 1 of the 6 automatically, or can you be group-spotted out of your own cast as well?
    (sorry, can't watch video atm)

    "The chosen one" is always the first six.
    If not then you can't purge yourself even if you are the caster.

    So make a group of six or slot yourself a extended ritual.
    Aknight
  • zyk
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    At least the purge order is not alphabetical. Thanks @ZOS_BrianWheeler ! GJ.
    Edited by zyk on June 16, 2016 5:26PM
  • Nilmot
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    Good deal, thanks for figuring it out and letting us know.

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  • Capsaica
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    HAHAHA - Good to Know. Crispen is now required to be one of the first 6 when the group gets started!

    Wait...is there a time when Crispen is not in group???

    :wink:
  • Zheg
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    I've also wanted to know the priority of which debuffs are removed, if there is a priority. Seems like that's something only ZOS could provide, player testing would be ridonculous.
  • Dyride
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    So you're saying I have to. blame ZOS instead the healers when those DoTs keep ticking?

    Here I was yelling at them for no good reason.
    Edited by Dyride on June 16, 2016 6:16PM
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    1. Joy_Division
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      Thank you for doing ZoS's job and thank you even more for actually providing video evidence of a bug rather than demanding ZoS just fix something that seems "off."
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    2. Mako1132
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      Dyride wrote: »
      So you're saying I have to. blame ZOS instead the healers when those DoTs keep ticking?

      Here I was yelling at them for no good reason.

      We're used to it, and by now most healers enjoy being yelled at.

      What you don't know is that there is a healer guild where we tell funny stories of all the ragers.
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      Mako1132 wrote: »
      Dyride wrote: »
      So you're saying I have to. blame ZOS instead the healers when those DoTs keep ticking?

      Here I was yelling at them for no good reason.

      We're used to it, and by now most healers enjoy being yelled at.

      What you don't know is that there is a healer guild where we tell funny stories of all the ragers.
      Ours are feisty. Yelling at our healers is the best way to never get rezzed and be one of the first to die.
    4. Ashnunn
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      - "Thank you for your concern and video, we were going to do our own testing on purge but we decided to invest our time into reskinning a new mount for everyone to be distracted by"


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      It's safe to just assume nothing is working as intended.


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      Edited by Sallington on June 16, 2016 7:54PM
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    6. ataggs
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      Zheg wrote: »
      Mako1132 wrote: »
      Dyride wrote: »
      So you're saying I have to. blame ZOS instead the healers when those DoTs keep ticking?

      Here I was yelling at them for no good reason.

      We're used to it, and by now most healers enjoy being yelled at.

      What you don't know is that there is a healer guild where we tell funny stories of all the ragers.
      Ours are feisty. Yelling at our healers is the best way to never get rezzed and be one of the first to die.

      I expect a link to this thread in the guild MOTD!
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    7. BRogueNZ
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      Wow, not like people weren't inquiring how barrier and purge would select targets long before the changes..

      *shakes head*
    8. FENGRUSH
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      Solution: stop zerging!
    9. Mako1132
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      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!

      Stam sorcs are balanced.
    10. Zheg
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      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!

      Solution to stam sorc? Group with classes that are better balanced!
      -as helpful as your post
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      Much appreciated @Akgurd and RAM. Shared this with TKG just now.
    12. HoloYoitsu
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      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!
      I wasn't aware anything over 6 was a zerg?
    13. Crispen_Longbow
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      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!
      I wasn't aware anything over 6 was a zerg?

      2 V 1 = Zerg

      3 V 2 = Zerg

      4 V 3 = Zerg

      8 V 6 = Zerg

      16 V 14 = Zerg

      24 v 24 = Zerg

      48 v 36 = Zerg

      Anytime outnumbered or even same numbers ESO Players will think "Zerg"
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    14. Zheg
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      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!
      I wasn't aware anything over 6 was a zerg?

      2 V 1 = Zerg

      3 V 2 = Zerg

      4 V 3 = Zerg

      8 V 6 = Zerg

      16 V 14 = Zerg

      24 v 24 = Zerg

      48 v 36 = Zerg

      Anytime outnumbered or even same numbers ESO Players will think "Zerg"

      Actually, according to JDar, 5 v ~8 blues is a zerg as well, as per our 5 man group pushing a blue keep one night and 'ruining pvp'.
    15. Daveheart
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      Zheg wrote: »
      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      FENGRUSH wrote: »
      Solution: stop zerging!
      I wasn't aware anything over 6 was a zerg?

      2 V 1 = Zerg

      3 V 2 = Zerg

      4 V 3 = Zerg

      8 V 6 = Zerg

      16 V 14 = Zerg

      24 v 24 = Zerg

      48 v 36 = Zerg

      Anytime outnumbered or even same numbers ESO Players will think "Zerg"

      Actually, according to JDar, 5 v ~8 blues is a zerg as well, as per our 5 man group pushing a blue keep one night and 'ruining pvp'.

      Was that when we got into Roe and were told that we attacked an "empty" keep with "30"?
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