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@ZOS Fix Malubeth the Scourger Set

Julianos
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This set needs some fix and bit nerf to healing buff it says %6 chance but it procs like %50 chance and heals like a crazy needs some adjustments.
  • Aenlir
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    This set is the most cancerous thing in PvP right now. It's definitely bugged where it procs too often and heals too much. Please fix/rebalance this as soon as possible. People are running around nearly unkillable because of malubeth.
    Edited by Aenlir on June 16, 2016 1:57PM
  • ArvenAldmeri
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    @Sypher I think you might have something to say about that also... or bring more attention to it at least.
    Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
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  • Universe
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    It appears that the set's healing ignores battle spirit's reduced healing.
    I reported about this issue and it seems ZOS are investigating this :)
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  • Lucky28
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    it's a decent set that might make you have to work for a kill. so naturally we have to nerf it.
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  • Zheg
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    it's a decent set that might make you have to work for a kill. so naturally we have to nerf it.

    The 'decent' set is bugged and makes all of your heals bypass battle spirit while it's proc'd. Are you really trying to play off a bugged set as the usual people whining for nerfs? Really?
  • Lore_lai
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    +1
    Please, PLEASE fix this! (preferably not when next DLC releases)
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel
  • DDemon
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    Check the combat log in this screenshot, I initially thought someone saved my ass with breath of life, but I went from almost dead to full health instantly, I was being hit by approximately 10-20 people.

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  • Hadan_of_Rift
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    DDemon wrote: »
    Check the combat log in this screenshot, I initially thought someone saved my ass with breath of life, but I went from almost dead to full health instantly, I was being hit by approximately 10-20 people.

    3b1e624ea8.png

    Working as intended (ZOS tm)
    Edited by Hadan_of_Rift on June 16, 2016 3:26PM
  • Aenlir
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    DDemon wrote: »
    Check the combat log in this screenshot, I initially thought someone saved my ass with breath of life, but I went from almost dead to full health instantly, I was being hit by approximately 10-20 people.

    3b1e624ea8.png

    That's insane :o
    This can't wait to be fixed until next major update...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • LegacyDM
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    No! I had to suffer wearing this thing with a health debuff since launch. Now that it is working properly you guys want to nerf. Sounds like a l2p issue.
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  • LegacyDM
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    Lord wrote: »
    It appears that the set's healing ignores battle spirit's reduced healing.
    I reported about this issue and it seems ZOS are investigating this :)

    It's suppose to, apparently you haven't been paying attention when zos said they were changing it before db dlc. There was a whole thread about who it was unfair because it was getting double hit by battle spirit when other monster helms suffer no such penalty.
    Edited by LegacyDM on June 16, 2016 4:08PM
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  • Aenlir
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    No! I had to suffer wearing this thing with a health debuff since launch. Now that it is working properly you guys want to nerf. Sounds like a l2p issue.

    A 22.4k heal is working properly? :/
  • Tonnopesce
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    HA HA this is the first time that i know something before it gets changed... TIME TO WIN SOMETHING IN PVP FINALLY!!!

    No serious...
    Yesterday with a group of pugs we had lot of trouble killing a tank DK with the malubeth ,10 ppl dps him down and tree templars spamming RD in execute range he was kinda immortal.

    #balance?
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  • JubJub
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    Its fine someone close this thread nothing to see here.
  • Julianos
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    lol with this set you can walk around in zerg like a god
  • LegacyDM
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2890776#Comment_2890776

    Scourge Harvester: Fixed an issue where the heal from this item set’s proc was being reduced by Battle Spirit; healing based on damage done will no longer be double-penalized by Battle Spirit.

    Now I don't know if there is an additional bug or what but bottom line, its suppose to not get double penalized by battle spirit.
    Edited by LegacyDM on June 16, 2016 4:08PM
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  • LegacyDM
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    Aenlir wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    No! I had to suffer wearing this thing with a health debuff since launch. Now that it is working properly you guys want to nerf. Sounds like a l2p issue.

    A 22.4k heal is working properly? :/

    Well what was the guys build, cp allocation and other armor he's wearing? Maybe he's stacked healing through the roof. One combat screen shot doesn't tell the whole story...

    10-20 guys on him? Of course it's going to proc a lot. And maybe it was additive in combat log? It was probably a series of heals that added up and displayed as one when he died? Kinda like how bleed works in death recap?
    Edited by LegacyDM on June 16, 2016 4:19PM
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  • LegacyDM
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    Axorn wrote: »
    This set needs some fix and bit nerf to healing buff it says %6 chance but it procs like %50 chance and heals like a crazy needs some adjustments.

    Id question your 50% proc rate assumption. Go run some statistical tests and show us the results. It may appear like its 50% to you but when you have a lot of people whaling on you at 6% it can "feel" like 50%.
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  • LegacyDM
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    Axorn wrote: »
    lol with this set you can walk around in zerg like a god

    All I do is pvp and have yet to see anyone walk around like a god with this set. I've killed people wearing this set. I've seen Templars and dks walk around like gods with their insane healing and armor mitigation. I've seen people walk around like gods with ce, but not with this set.
    Edited by LegacyDM on June 16, 2016 4:39PM
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  • Paraflex
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    Yea its OP right now and needs to be adjusted. People are running this in duels and never dying its a problem and should be balanced.
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  • Zyle
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    Oh so that's why I've been seeing purple beams everywhere.

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  • Aenlir
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Aenlir wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    No! I had to suffer wearing this thing with a health debuff since launch. Now that it is working properly you guys want to nerf. Sounds like a l2p issue.

    A 22.4k heal is working properly? :/

    Well what was the guys build, cp allocation and other armor he's wearing? Maybe he's stacked healing through the roof. One combat screen shot doesn't tell the whole story...

    10-20 guys on him? Of course it's going to proc a lot. And maybe it was additive in combat log? It was probably a series of heals that added up and displayed as one when he died? Kinda like how bleed works in death recap?

    I'm not sure exactly what was going on in that screenshot, but no set should be that powerful to do 22k heals in that amount of time regardless of how many people are hitting them.

    I'm all for having strong sets in the game, but not "I win" buttons that can be used by any baddie. It feels like this set is proccing way too often as well as just being strong. There have been times I have hit someone, backed off to break the beam and it would just instantly reapply when I hit again for like 5 times straight.

    If you look at the tooltip and what the set should be doing, it just doesn't add up.


  • Asgari
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    The set randomly will proc for a large heal when you are being engaged by multiple targets
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    If the proc % is really 50%, it has to be some interaction with something else. I stopped using it because of the low proc rate, read a similar thread saying the proc rate was high, and then tried it again in PvP.

    I'm lucky to see a proc for every 15min of actual combat, which would be way under 6%...
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2890776#Comment_2890776

    Scourge Harvester: Fixed an issue where the heal from this item set’s proc was being reduced by Battle Spirit; healing based on damage done will no longer be double-penalized by Battle Spirit.

    Now I don't know if there is an additional bug or what but bottom line, its suppose to not get double penalized by battle spirit.
    I'd have to don the set myself to confirm, but people were saying that with the beam proc on you ALL healing was bypassing battle spirit. Those patch notes were specific to the beam proc itself, and should work similarly to how engine guardian does when you get a red beam proc. What should NOT happen is vigor ticks suddenly bypassing battle spirit because malubeth is proc on you.
  • mistermacintosh
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    Glad I saved my Malubeth pieces! >:)
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  • Vinther
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    2x divines malu shoulders (medium)
    1x impen malu shoulders (medium)
    1x infused malu helm (heavy)
    1x divines malu helmet (medium)
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  • laksikus
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    Lord wrote: »
    It appears that the set's healing ignores battle spirit's reduced healing.
    I reported about this issue and it seems ZOS are investigating this :)

    It gets the damage reduction already. So thats per fectly fine. With Healing reduction the battle spirit would apply 2 times
  • Dionysus
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    I run this and it certainly does NOT have a 50% proc. If you math, yeah, if you get hit by an entire zerg 16x/second, it will proc ~every second. In exchange you are still probably getting wrekt, probably just a few seconds later. In some instances if you're spec'd for healing received it may save you a time or two, but it's definitely not OP just because it was fixed to reasonable PVP use and people started using it. Is it crazy that there would be a defensive equivalent to VD?

    A lot of things need adjustment in this game but a defensive monster set that everyone has access to is not it.
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  • Armitas
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    Fix the healing bug thats making it heal for 20k and lets see where it sits.
    Retired.
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