Ruins of Mazzatun (4-player dungeon) and Barbershop in August

tinythinker

According to this: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/15/e3-2016-the-elder-scrolls-online-to-receive-new-dungeons-customisation-and-housing-dlc?abthid=5760ba2639dddeb85f000012

I mean, the article doesn't give the dungeon name but it's part of what was data-mined recently.

Housing not until first quarter of 2017.

(@MornaBaine)

tinythinker

Hmm, either it's late or we are underwhelmed. Maybe hoping for Vvardenfell instead for Q3? Sorry. Maybe Q4.

But if the "Argonian dungeon pack" *is* Ruins of Mazzatun then we can look forward to this:

The Ruins of Mazzatun have long been a blight on the pristine marshland of Shadowfen. Legend tells of a Mad Hist at the center of the ruins, but Argonians who enter the “Puzzle City” seldom live to tell the tale.

My Argonian(s) would love to take on a Mad Hist, especially if the graphics are like what we saw from the borderlands of Black Marsh from the Dark Brotherhood questline.

acw37162

After the little escaped of a 4K mount, I fully expect the price point for the barber shop and more to the point the most wanted features of the barber shop to induce dizziness, sickness, irritable bowel syndrome, and toxic shock to ones credit card statement.

UltimaJoe777

I just wonder what all our houses will be good for, besides a practice dummy and trophy room.

tinythinker

acw37162 wrote: »

After the little escaped of a 4K mount, I fully expect the price point for the barber shop and more to the point the most wanted features of the barber shop to induce dizziness, sickness, irritable bowel syndrome, and toxic shock to ones credit card statement.

The article quotes Firor as saying they are avoiding big DLCs so content can be more episodic. One can hope the pricing would fit that model. Limited time mounts are always the most stupidly priced thing in the Crown Shop so hopefully that has no bearing on the new playable content.

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

I just wonder what all our houses will be good for, besides a practice dummy and trophy room.

Good question. I know what they can be/are used for in other MMORPGs, but it's anybody's guess for ESO. Maybe growing (special) crops for alchemy and provisioning, a private stable for mount training, a rested XP bonus? If they come in different sizes maybe some can be set up as guild halls with crafting stations or other such items?

UltimaJoe777

tinythinker wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

After the little escaped of a 4K mount, I fully expect the price point for the barber shop and more to the point the most wanted features of the barber shop to induce dizziness, sickness, irritable bowel syndrome, and toxic shock to ones credit card statement.

The article quotes Firor as saying they are avoiding big DLCs so content can be more episodic. One can hope the pricing would fit that model. Limited time mounts are always the most stupidly priced thing in the Crown Shop so hopefully that has no bearing on the new playable content.

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

I just wonder what all our houses will be good for, besides a practice dummy and trophy room.

Good question. I know what they can be/are used for in other MMORPGs, but it's anybody's guess for ESO. Maybe growing (special) crops for alchemy, a private stable for mount training, a rested XP bonus? If they come in different sizes maybe some can be set up as guild halls with crafting stations or other such items?

A convenience for crafters like Rawl'kha but better would be neat, perhaps even the shrines there as well and of course nodes outside that respawn normally but are for you and maybe guests? Doubt the XP bonus though lol but guild halls are something I'd love to have that grant perks based on size and accomplishment perhaps. Something to make guilds more worthwhile than trading guilds and/or social groups.

Rev Rielle

Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game:

"It’s interesting to see what happens when you take away the subscription model away," Firor explained. "You don’t see a hardcore playstyle - like playing for six months and then quitting - we don’t see that. We have a lot of players who will play for two or three weeks because they want to get through a zone and then stop. Then they come back two months later for another month, because there’s no pressure to play all of it at once.

"Our DLC packs cater to that, because they’re smaller, bite-size chunks of story and associated quests."

They're catering this sort of playstyle in an MMO? To me personally this is very disturbing and disappointing news. The most important thing for an MMO is to build up and maintain a long-term loyal community. And this attitude simply won't do it.

Mojmir

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game:

"It’s interesting to see what happens when you take away the subscription model away," Firor explained. "You don’t see a hardcore playstyle - like playing for six months and then quitting - we don’t see that. We have a lot of players who will play for two or three weeks because they want to get through a zone and then stop. Then they come back two months later for another month, because there’s no pressure to play all of it at once.

"Our DLC packs cater to that, because they’re smaller, bite-size chunks of story and associated quests."

They're catering this sort of playstyle in an MMO? To me personally this is very disturbing and disappointing news. The most important thing for an MMO is to build up and maintain a long-term loyal community. And this attitude simply won't do it.

agree and the bolded part just shows how out of touch he is,they leave because you keep breaking the game and they check back to see if youve fixed it. if you want to go slow and stroll through the game,thats fine,2-3 weeks/zone though? LOL

Runs

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

tinythinker

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

A convenience for crafters like Rawl'kha but better would be neat.

Very neat.

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

perhaps even the shrines there as well

Yeeeeeeesssssssssss....

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

and of course nodes outside that respawn normally but are for you and maybe guests?

Cool. Like it. Guest could pick from your garden. And for the stable thing they could add this (not just for homes but all stables).

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Doubt the XP bonus though lol but guild halls are something I'd love to have that grant perks based on size and accomplishment perhaps. Something to make guilds more worthwhile than trading guilds and/or social groups.

I'm there.

UltimaJoe777

Runs wrote: »

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

I don't think they ever said we could expect housing this year. Also it's early 2017 so not too far off.

tinythinker

I hear the folks unhappy about the episodic DLC idea and your concerns are valid. Many people do get frustrated or bored and leave until new DLC to see if better balance and important bug fixes came in with the new content. If the DLC is high quality and engaging and they also keep adding value to the base game the episodic approach might work, but I guess we will have a better idea of what he means after we see Q3 and Q4 of this year. It can't have too little content though or many people will just give up.

UltimaJoe777

They plan to release little mini-DLCs that add up to what the usual DLCs we've been getting by the time next quarter comes around in order to keep people that just check in for new things around more often. It's like releasing the next DLCs in portions until ultimately we have all of the DLC by the next quarter. A valid approach in my opinion. However, these new features coming in bite-sized DLCs cannot all cost money to get or that will drive people away...

ComboBreaker88

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

I don't think they ever said we could expect housing this year. Also it's early 2017 so not too far off.

Yeah they did in the 2016 year ahead. They also promised guild management features. But they are not even talking about that anymore. I'm honestly getting feed up with the *** frim this company. This game cod be the most amazing game ever, but they don't know what the heck they are doing and it's killing it.

UltimaJoe777

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

I don't think they ever said we could expect housing this year. Also it's early 2017 so not too far off.

Yeah they did in the 2016 year ahead. They also promised guild management features. But they are not even talking about that anymore. I'm honestly getting feed up with the *** frim this company. This game cod be the most amazing game ever, but they don't know what the heck they are doing and it's killing it.

Sure they spoke OF it but I don't recall them actually saying it'd come this year, just that it was in the works.

tinythinker

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

They plan to release little mini-DLCs that add up to what the usual DLCs we've been getting by the time next quarter comes around in order to keep people that just check in for new things around more often. It's like releasing the next DLCs in portions until ultimately we have all of the DLC by the next quarter. A valid approach in my opinion. However, these new features coming in bite-sized DLCs cannot all cost money to get or that will drive people away...

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at, if it's too little at a time per purchase or just flat out too little content per quarter it will get really frustrating. If they make old/new group content more repeatable (graphics, new music, etc) that would also help. *fingers crossed*

Runs

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

I don't think they ever said we could expect housing this year. Also it's early 2017 so not too far off.

Yeah they did in the 2016 year ahead. They also promised guild management features. But they are not even talking about that anymore. I'm honestly getting feed up with the *** frim this company. This game cod be the most amazing game ever, but they don't know what the heck they are doing and it's killing it.

Sure they spoke OF it but I don't recall them actually saying it'd come this year, just that it was in the works.

Just double checked too.. and yeah it was only mentioned they were working on it, not when it would be released. Still the slip that there would be no zone in Q3 by the lead composer felt like confirmation housing would be Q3.

Guess my old man was right about making assumptions lol.

tinythinker

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Right now, I am upset that I renewed 6 months sub last month. This is a really big let down. The housing coming in 2017, when I believed they already confirmed it for 2016. The small DLCs really bother me, they wouldn't so much if there was mention that they were also working on bigger yearly expansions.

Really feel... blah... on this.

I don't think they ever said we could expect housing this year. Also it's early 2017 so not too far off.

They also promised guild management features.

Would make sense to put those in with housing and have housing include guild halls. Too bad about it being next year, though.

Aquanova

So the Ruins would be a 4 man trial?

This sounds Awesome can't wait.

tinythinker

Aquanova wrote: »

So the Ruins would be a 4 man trial?

This sounds Awesome can't wait.

Either a trial or dungeon. Seems to be leaning dungeon in the reporting from the data-mining and the IGN article, but, that might just be inaccuracy/ambiguity in phrasing. But if it's just one instance plus a barber shop that leans trial, especially since it would sound similar to how the added MoL to Reaper's March only this time with Shadowfen. Who knows maybe each base game zone will get a trial eventually? All speculation for now, but, this forum loves that so...

Loves_guars

tinythinker wrote: »

Housing not until first quarter of 2017.

Ugh... between this and the cheaters I think it's time to put this game on the shelf again.

Faulgor

Sounds like Murkmire to me. If it isn't I'll be disappointed.

Edit: Well, guess I'm disappointed then.

Thornen

cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Housing not until first quarter of 2017.

Ugh... between this and the cheaters I think it's time to put this game on the shelf again.

Throw it in the bin where it belongs with this pos company that has 0 integrity and 0 competence.

Yinmaigao

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

I just wonder what all our houses will be good for, besides a practice dummy and trophy room.

Lack of any real advantage/purpose to player housing might be part of the reason it has been so delayed.

Agalloch

If they make small dlc's like episodes ..they will make u sub every month. They must ad free content also..or the people will leave...

Mettaricana

When I hear mad hist I just picture us fighting a hist dark douls 3 style like the curse rotted great tree...

Kendaric

I sure hope that's not everything... I've no interest in a dungeon/trial and just the barbershop is too little to look forward to.

Mettaricana

Then what do you have interest in?

Kendaric

@Mettaricana:

Exploration, questing and RP.

Don't get me wrong, I am glad we finally receive the barber shop but I was looking forward to some new quests, as the TG and DB DLCs are very specialized and only suited to some of my characters. I had also hoped for housing to come out, but it's coming in 2017.

Mush55

Couldn't give a stuff about housing, give me content, dungeons , delves dungeons, special bosses that spawn rarely and need a good team of 12 or more to take down with the possibility of VMA equivalent weapons .

Vet versions of dire frost and vaults, spell crafting , 2 player VMA .

This will keep my interest not sitting in a house making it look pretty whilst growing stuff, can enter any house in game and sit there WE NEED PROPER CONTENT.

Cimadon

Mush55 wrote: »

Couldn't give a stuff about housing, give me content, dungeons , delves dungeons, special bosses that spawn rarely and need a good team of 12 or more to take down with the possibility of VMA equivalent weapons .

Vet versions of dire frost and vaults, spell crafting , 2 player VMA .

This will keep my interest not sitting in a house making it look pretty whilst growing stuff, can enter any house in game and sit there WE NEED PROPER CONTENT.

Housing is nice, but i'm in your boat. I would rather have vet versions of normal dungeons, a 2 man trial and world boss events. It'll be interesting to see what is in store for the rest of the year.