How do people 1vx so well?

JubJub · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

Wow is everyone on pc like this guy?

Minno · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

God_flakes · July 2016

@Minno

You ARE the best Templar.

frozywozy · July 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom close this thread already please, thank you.

Minno · July 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom close this thread already please, thank you.

And another will pop up in its place. Might as well leave this one going.

Publius_Scipio · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

Yup. Same reason why back in the day myself and a few friends disassociated with a few (former friends) others because they liked Sega Genesis over SNES. Would you believe that? They liked a stupid blue hedgehog that ran fast compared to two Italian plumbers, Final Fantasy, Zelda, etc.

I couldn't be seen with that kind of company around me.

frozywozy · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom close this thread already please, thank you.

And another will pop up in its place. Might as well leave this one going.

No. That's like saying, don't put this ped0phile in prison because there will be another one coming anyway.

We have to keep enforcing rules and keep hoping that kids will grow up and learn some manners and respect.

Minno · July 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom close this thread already please, thank you.

And another will pop up in its place. Might as well leave this one going.

No. That's like saying, don't put this ped0phile in prison because there will be another one coming anyway.

We have to keep enforcing rules and keep hoping that kids will grow up and learn some manners and respect.

What does that have to do with well known players using CE, getting banned then having their ban reversed with still no viable statement from ZOS regarding the protection of fair play on the PC?

Minno · July 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

Yup. Same reason why back in the day myself and a few friends disassociated with a few (former friends) others because they liked Sega Genesis over SNES. Would you believe that? They liked a stupid blue hedgehog that ran fast compared to two Italian plumbers, Final Fantasy, Zelda, etc.

I couldn't be seen with that kind of company around me.

You forgot Toe Jam and Earl, Earthworm Jim, golden axe, splatterhouse 2, Aladdin, and Altered Beast.

frozywozy · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom close this thread already please, thank you.

And another will pop up in its place. Might as well leave this one going.

No. That's like saying, don't put this ped0phile in prison because there will be another one coming anyway.

We have to keep enforcing rules and keep hoping that kids will grow up and learn some manners and respect.

What does that have to do with well known players using CE, getting banned then having their ban reversed with still no viable statement from ZOS regarding the protection of fair play on the PC?

I want this thread closed because of the level of trash talking, bad manners, lack of respect and maturity involved in here. People need to learn to be civilized when addressing each other and act like adults. nuff said

Publius_Scipio · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

Yup. Same reason why back in the day myself and a few friends disassociated with a few (former friends) others because they liked Sega Genesis over SNES. Would you believe that? They liked a stupid blue hedgehog that ran fast compared to two Italian plumbers, Final Fantasy, Zelda, etc.

I couldn't be seen with that kind of company around me.

You forgot Toe Jam and Earl, Earthworm Jim, golden axe, splatterhouse 2, Aladdin, and Altered Beast.

I'll give you altered beast.

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

IDK Jules there is this very damning screen shot of some people nobody knows talking about it on facebook....

KenaPKK · July 2016

Who is Darnathian and what is this million gold bet? Someone catch me up to speed here? Curiosity.

Caza99 · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

You have no proof, no evidence to back up your claims here so far and so there is no reason for me to focus on anything but your tasteless and cringe-worthy 'jokes'.
You continue to accuse people of cheating but produce nothing to support the claims. All you do is throw out insults which isn't helping you in the slightest. All I get from your comments on this thread is that you are one of those players who think anyone better than them is cheating, or someone who can do something you can't must be hacking. Without proof you are never going to be taken seriously, and particularly when you go after respected players in the community.
I too notice the god mode players now that were being rekt when the bans were being dished out, and I take the same attitude towards them as you appear to do. However they are not the players you are going after on this thread. I feel bad for player like Jules, Kodi, Sypher just to name a few, who have worked hard to get to where they are now only to be accused of cheating by people like you.

umagon · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

Yup. Same reason why back in the day myself and a few friends disassociated with a few (former friends) others because they liked Sega Genesis over SNES. Would you believe that? They liked a stupid blue hedgehog that ran fast compared to two Italian plumbers, Final Fantasy, Zelda, etc.

I couldn't be seen with that kind of company around me.

You forgot Toe Jam and Earl, Earthworm Jim, golden axe, splatterhouse 2, Aladdin, and Altered Beast.

Let's also never forget: Shinobi, Streets of Rage, Two Crude Dudes, Chakan: The Forever Man, Ranger X, Eternal Champions, Vectorman, Road Rash, Cyborg Justice, X-Men, ESWAT, Mega Turrican, Skitchin', and OutRun 2019.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

You have no proof, no evidence to back up your claims here so far and so there is no reason for me to focus on anything but your tasteless and cringe-worthy 'jokes'.
You continue to accuse people of cheating but produce nothing to support the claims. All you do is throw out insults which isn't helping you in the slightest. All I get from your comments on this thread is that you are one of those players who think anyone better than them is cheating, or someone who can do something you can't must be hacking. Without proof you are never going to be taken seriously, and particularly when you go after respected players in the community.
I too notice the god mode players now that were being rekt when the bans were being dished out, and I take the same attitude towards them as you appear to do. However they are not the players you are going after on this thread. I feel bad for player like Jules, Kodi, Sypher just to name a few, who have worked hard to get to where they are now only to be accused of cheating by people like you.

After reading his posts, this is my conclusion as well. Lots of these types around these days, unfortunately.

Darnathian · July 2016

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

You have no proof, no evidence to back up your claims here so far and so there is no reason for me to focus on anything but your tasteless and cringe-worthy 'jokes'.
You continue to accuse people of cheating but produce nothing to support the claims. All you do is throw out insults which isn't helping you in the slightest. All I get from your comments on this thread is that you are one of those players who think anyone better than them is cheating, or someone who can do something you can't must be hacking. Without proof you are never going to be taken seriously, and particularly when you go after respected players in the community.
I too notice the god mode players now that were being rekt when the bans were being dished out, and I take the same attitude towards them as you appear to do. However they are not the players you are going after on this thread. I feel bad for player like Jules, Kodi, Sypher just to name a few, who have worked hard to get to where they are now only to be accused of cheating by people like you.

if calling women pe d ofile s makes u respected then i want nothing to do with those "respected" players. have fun with those cheaters and crap talkers I'm done with this bs.

I would love to name the sources but I was sworn not to to cause drama.

CyrusArya · July 2016

I really don't understand the logic some people are choosing to employ in this thread. Have people used cheat engine? Sure. This doesn't change the fact that people have been and will continue to 1vX without it. As long as that's the case, everyone's input regarding how some people cheated to 1vX is completely irrelevent and offers nothing to an otherwise legitimate thread. Stop derailing it cus you personally have no insight to offer...

It's like going into a thread titled "how do I ride a bike well" and insisting that because some people have used steroids to inflate their performance, there are no tips or advice to be had on how to ride a bike well. Ridiculous.

zyk · July 2016

Pointing fingers without evidence only serves cheaters by muddying the waters.

While we don't know which individuals are cheating, we know that it must be widespread because it is easy to do, provides great advantages and is without consequence. It does not take a very intelligent person to cheat only subtly enough to avoid casual detection and/or cling to plausible deniability.

Furthermore, we can see in each of these threads there are a lot of players willing to accept that friends cheated and express indifference towards cheating by saying things like "it's just a game" in reference to it.

Unfortunately, it is not just these players who have no credibility. None of us do. This is the case because ZOS does not take the issue seriously.

We, as a community, need to keep the pressure on ZOS. We must avoid the approach of suspecting every effective player -- but also, we should recognize no accomplishments matter until the game has better security.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Every toxic thread like this is because of decisions made by ZOS. I know you are experienced enough to know what must be done to add security to ESO. Why is a company with the resources and talent of ZOS not doing what is necessary to better ensure/enforce fair play in ESO?

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

Let's address the cheater's credo.

It's one part delusion and two parts "turning the table".

The git gud, you just jealous of your betters line of attack which is their constant and consistent "defense" is akin to OJ crying about the injustice of the real killer(s) not being apprehended and all the time wasted on him compounding that. Ignore the fact that it was OJ that hacked two people to death and left his ex-wife and mother of his children lying in a pool of blood for his children to discover....

What's been discussed is how post-cheatgate quite a few "great players" became fodder... Some remain fodder, while some have regained their "skilled" ability to randomly dodge everything while not doing anything to achieve it.

At the end of the day, what we are left with is proclaiming that "insert skilled player name here" is our better because random chance seems to favor him at all times and his massive skill of mashing buttons on a keyboard transcends basic probability as he dodges most things while not even dodge rolling. The fact that when all things ought be equal "insert skilled player name here" is able to beat you to the punch on every attack, as if somehow their immense skill and "muscle memory" has transcended time and space.

Laughable stuff indeed, these are not the droids you are looking for.

Lokey0024 · July 2016

So all credibility at being good at this game has flew out the window. People caught are returning because of reasons (probably spent alot of money in the crown store, idk).

Cant prove anything unless they blatantly cheat. Who would of thought a cheater would be a liar? So untill the devs figure it out, save yourself some grief and just ignore people throwing accusations or just avoid them in Cyrodiil because they "got gud" all of a sudden-like.

mchermie · July 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I would love to name the sources but I was sworn not to to cause drama.

Lmao

Dude, you're nothing but drama already

Elong · July 2016

Minno wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I am trolling. She is a solid player

Not sure but she has been mysteriously absent for 72 hours...... oh and renigged on a million gold

Maybe she's just fed up with replying to accusations from nobodies.

wow. sick burn from the guy riding with confirmed cheaters. maybe u should too. cause u are awful.

your comment makes no sense. she replied to get herself into that million. fail troll as usual.

I fight against Elongo the most out of all EP, and I don't think he deserved that comment.

As for the cheating, people got banned and the bans were reversed. If I could find evidence i would, but it's far easier to just enjoy the game as best as possible. If they cheat, great! If I best them while they are using inflated programs, that means they are terrible because I'm not the best Templar.

Only thing CE changed were all the threads, discussions, and topics regarding "the best player/guild etc.". What was measurable before is now shadowed by the question "I wonder how many successes that player gained in the past by using CE?" And before the weekend CE was blatantly used, I used to ignore comments by players that said "what a hacker/cheater" because how can you cheat in this buggy game? Why would someone even put effort in that lol.

And if you run with known cheaters that were banned for using CE, it shouldn't be a surprise much of the player base associates you to that crowd. It's a similar argument parents have when their kid runs with troubled friends; you are the company you keep from a reputation standpoint. It's easier to disassociate from those accusations but it will require you to seriously think about those you regularly run with especially if you want to promote fair competitive play. Can't expect everyone to just take your word for it, unfortunately. And using negative comments/rumors against another player's won't help your cause either, it just widens a hole you are accidently in or put yourself there intentionally.

Just my two cents.

Appreciate it, even if I do use RD out of frustration

Jules · July 2016

JubJub wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

Wow is everyone on pc like this guy?

Poor @jubjub. I'm sorry we ruined your thread with our salt.

Darnathian · July 2016

mchermie wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I would love to name the sources but I was sworn not to to cause drama.

Lmao Dude, you're nothing but drama already

Thats fine. People can continue to be blind. I was calling out the BS. But the lemmings have spoken. I will get off my soap box. The cheaters have won.

I will just "Get Gud" as they suggest. I just need to figure out the correct build to move at 1.1 times everyones speed, continuously dodge roll, and dodge 8 DF's in a row.

I need to properly learn to trash talk by calling women unspeakable things.

I need to try to convince everyone i play objectives even though i spend most of my time farming bridges/gates/resources.

I am not even talkng crap. Because some of them have figured it out. The community is actually convinced that stuff is okay. And not people calling them out. LMAO

Wollust · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I would love to name the sources but I was sworn not to to cause drama.

Lmao Dude, you're nothing but drama already

Thats fine. People can continue to be blind. I was calling out the BS. But the lemmings have spoken. I will get off my soap box. The cheaters have won.

I will just "Get Gud" as they suggest. I just need to figure out the correct build to move at 1.1 times everyones speed, continuously dodge roll, and dodge 8 DF's in a row.

I need to properly learn to trash talk by calling women unspeakable things.

I need to try to convince everyone i play objectives even though i spend most of my time farming bridges/gates/resources.

I am not even talkng crap. Because some of them have figured it out. The community is actually convinced that stuff is okay. And not people calling them out. LMAO

All that salt is gonna get you killed one day. Pretty unhealthy stuff.

Darnathian · July 2016

Wollust wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I would love to name the sources but I was sworn not to to cause drama.

Lmao Dude, you're nothing but drama already

Thats fine. People can continue to be blind. I was calling out the BS. But the lemmings have spoken. I will get off my soap box. The cheaters have won.

I will just "Get Gud" as they suggest. I just need to figure out the correct build to move at 1.1 times everyones speed, continuously dodge roll, and dodge 8 DF's in a row.

I need to properly learn to trash talk by calling women unspeakable things.

I need to try to convince everyone i play objectives even though i spend most of my time farming bridges/gates/resources.

I am not even talkng crap. Because some of them have figured it out. The community is actually convinced that stuff is okay. And not people calling them out. LMAO

All that salt is gonna get you killed one day. Pretty unhealthy stuff.

If i had a nickel every time someone in this game thought they were cool saying L2P, Get gud, your salty i would be richer. And ty for proving my point.

rfennell_ESO · July 2016

mchermie wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I would love to see one CE user admit to it, just one.

Lmao I admit to it, so there.

Good stuff.

Darnathian · July 2016

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

You have no proof, no evidence to back up your claims here so far and so there is no reason for me to focus on anything but your tasteless and cringe-worthy 'jokes'.
You continue to accuse people of cheating but produce nothing to support the claims. All you do is throw out insults which isn't helping you in the slightest. All I get from your comments on this thread is that you are one of those players who think anyone better than them is cheating, or someone who can do something you can't must be hacking. Without proof you are never going to be taken seriously, and particularly when you go after respected players in the community.
I too notice the god mode players now that were being rekt when the bans were being dished out, and I take the same attitude towards them as you appear to do. However they are not the players you are going after on this thread. I feel bad for player like Jules, Kodi, Sypher just to name a few, who have worked hard to get to where they are now only to be accused of cheating by people like you.

Just saw this. Let me be clear. Sypher is innocent.

And no you must not have met me in game. I am an average player at best. Has nothing to do with that. has to do with the integrity of the game. I spoke up because some of them cant just live with getting away with itin game. They need to come on these forums and post videos and run their mouth when they know god darn well they are cheaters.

Do you really believe people that dodge that many attacks from people and their defense is they have better RNG? Come on man. Thats what they were saying in the shuffle stacking threads b4 Cheat Enginegate came out.

Caza99 · July 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Post a screenshot, idgaf. Post a video. Post an anything. Oh wait, you can't, cause it's not real and no matter how many times you say it I'm still not a cheater. Also I don't know whether to laugh or be seriously concerned for your mental health by the fact that you just compared me to OJ.

My m

Caza99 wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

I hate to say it but even though nobody in this game likes him. @Darnathian earned his 1 mil

What is this high school? lol. If i am not liked that is fine. I will keep calling cheaters out. I will keep calling out a cancerous guild.

This kid just won't go away. The mill was promised for a more impressive video. I have yet to see one. Now shoo fly.

Kid? Good one. I like how riled up you get. If i could only get my hands on the screenie of your own friends listing you as one of the speed hackers that got away with it...... Your lucky the person that has it cares more about what cheater circle jerkers think than i do.

But hey. You can always make another video demonstrating how not to cheat. I find that wierd tho. But hey OJ got away with it too so .......

Legit surprised you aren't a kid, considering your previous remarks and insults....
And lol @ OJ comment, actually thought I was gonna die from laughter.

And i legit laughed at all these "elite" pro players that use/d CE. And in this case got away with it. Just about how they both got away with it.

When the temp bans came down these players were suddenly killable. Now its back to godmode. You can continue to turn a blind eye. i will not.

Lets focus on the OJ joke though. not the cheaters.

You have no proof, no evidence to back up your claims here so far and so there is no reason for me to focus on anything but your tasteless and cringe-worthy 'jokes'.
You continue to accuse people of cheating but produce nothing to support the claims. All you do is throw out insults which isn't helping you in the slightest. All I get from your comments on this thread is that you are one of those players who think anyone better than them is cheating, or someone who can do something you can't must be hacking. Without proof you are never going to be taken seriously, and particularly when you go after respected players in the community.
I too notice the god mode players now that were being rekt when the bans were being dished out, and I take the same attitude towards them as you appear to do. However they are not the players you are going after on this thread. I feel bad for player like Jules, Kodi, Sypher just to name a few, who have worked hard to get to where they are now only to be accused of cheating by people like you.

Just saw this. Let me be clear. Sypher is innocent.

And no you must not have met me in game. I am an average player at best. Has nothing to do with that. has to do with the integrity of the game. I spoke up because some of them cant just live with getting away with itin game. They need to come on these forums and post videos and run their mouth when they know god darn well they are cheaters.

Do you really believe people that dodge that many attacks from people and their defense is they have better RNG? Come on man. Thats what they were saying in the shuffle stacking threads b4 Cheat Enginegate came out.

No, I have absolutely no idea who you are but you are doing more damage to the 'integrity' of the game than Jules or Kodi. Your constant ranting and raving is tarnishing the reputation the game has previously had for a great community. Just refer to @JubJub 's comment to see what I mean. This thread was simply asking for help in PvP and quickly spiraled into toxicity and salt.
I too am an average player, but I don't accuse people of cheating simply because they dodged a lot. I have played both with and against Jules, and she has never done anything that has made me question whether she was cheating.
Stop throwing accusations around at people who play the game as fair as you and I. Jules and Kodi are innocent. How many times do people have to explain this to you?