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When The Servers Eventually Shut Down...
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.
The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.
I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.
In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title.
I don't know @danno8 ... I think there is a law that permits players to run private servers of games no longer hosted by the original IP holder. I did a quick search but couldn't find the source of that info. Maybe someone else knows.
I've never heard of that. If it exists, it sound more like an EU thing.While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.
The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.
I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.
In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title.
Not making ESO available single player has nothing to do with "IP". You are aware that there are many single player elder scrolls games? It's not like releasing a server executable gives the user any rights to the IP or "control" over it.
ESO would never be made single player because there is nothing in it for Bethesda or Zenimax, just a headache and extra work to allow the server to run on random hardware/software environments.
"Control" in the example I gave was maybe not the right word.
What I mean to say is like you said in your second paragraph. There is nothing in it for Zenimax, except for lost potential revenue.
If there is demand enough for a private server, then there is demand enough for people to pay a monthly fee. At least that is a company in the business of making money would see it.0 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
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This has been a very common fear of every MMORPG ever made.I have absolutely no idea how code and programming work so keep that in mind, but everyone knows Server upkeep is expensive and eventually Zenimax/Bethesda are going to make a decision just like so many other companies have done before. There's no telling how many years down the line it will be before this happens, but regardless. When the Game Servers are eventually shut down in order to make way for some other title or other reason, would it be possible to release one final update to our install files, making it possible to launch it as an offline Singleplayer experience?
The three faction questlines would still exist for you to do. Craglorn can be remade so you can complete it's Questline by yourself. Cyrodiil and the Imperial City, as well as the other DLC zones can remain explorable with it's PvE Quests but the Multiplayer mechanics are removed.
Really though this is just me being fearful of the future, considering I'm becoming attached to my characters and their progress.
What happens when the game shuts off?
As we've seen with SWG and some other beloved MMO's, the game just... shuts off. You can't log-in, characters are in limbo, the data files for everything you've every done, for every single account, are just... not there.
Now; there have been some instances where a person has purchased a private server and done their best to keep the game going, but that usually runs into proprietary issues between the original developer and the private individual.
As for ESO, eventually the servers will indeed be shut down. The population will have dropped to a point that it costs more to keep them running than the company brings in in monthly revenue. This is ultimately what kills MMO's.
For ESO, this eventuality is quite far off. The game is healthy, the population is healthy, the revenue is still flowing in at a very good rate. So an ESO sever shut-off is years and years off IMO.
But eventually it will happen. It's one of those things that Gamers who primarily play MMO's realize and have come to grips with.
There are some MMO's that break this trend and keep going regardless. While their populations are minuscule, they just keep trucking along, releasing performance updates even if new content isn't in the works. But those MMO's are very few and far between.
So, OP; I'd say keep being invested in your characters. Keep building them and caring for them, but don't worry about "when". That worry will only become a toxic cancer on your play time if you keep worrying about "when" the servers will shut down for good.
Enjoy ESO while it's here. Mourn for it once it's gone. Hopefully by the time that the servers shut off for good, there will be another MMO that could take ESO's place. But even if that doesn't happen, you'll still have the fond memories of this game from when it is/was at its prime.
For now, I'm enjoying the ride while it's still one of the top MMORPG's on the market. I'll be here for the whole ride, and I'll be sad when the servers finally go dark, but I can add this game to the list of greatest MMO's that I've ever played.
But a server shut off is years distant at this current time. Just enjoy it while it's here.
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Egonieser✭✭✭✭✭
✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Wife, family, children, career - lots of things, which will change your life in ways, you would never have expected. And with those you might play 40hrs/month, if you are lucky. You will become a casual gamer or you might have to face a divorce rather quickly. Having a partner is a huge change in every life, and I guess, having a son or a daughter or both is a life changing event, nothing will ever be the same again. I do not say this to scare you, but you might just feel something new - real happiness - and this will turn your focus on other things than gaming. There is nothing like being loved and to love - and this means happiness. I do not mean infatuation with it, but real love - infatuation will cease, but real love lasts.
Exactly this. I used to be a hardcore gamer until my early 20's, I went to Uni, worked a fulltime job, yet still manage to play dozens of hours a week (on the expense of sleep and taking laptop with me to work and uni)
That was 6 years ago, before i got married and had children. Life is totally different now, even though my wife is gaming too when we have some time - it's exactly that now - when we have "time". If someone told me that 6 years ago i'd just laugh at them and say "Nah, i know myself too well - that'll never happen"
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nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Ughhhh...I'm getting old. I think this is a post from myself about 6 years ago. I was so naive back then...
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Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
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Agreed. And I even married a Gamer (she loves ESO as well, and more often than not, we're on and grouped up together)., and we still have to find time to Game.Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Ughhhh...I'm getting old. I think this is a post from myself about 6 years ago. I was so naive back then...
While I still play almost every chance I get, I will be one of "those guys" and tell you that in fact, you will not always be gaming your ass off.
Work/Careers, two teenage kids, and a whole host of life's other responsibilities mean that while my wife and I still game, we can't crush out 8-10 hours like we used to when we were younger. I've been gaming for over 30 years, looking back over that time frame, it's amazing to think about all the different ways that my Gaming time has changed as the various situations in my life have changed.
And not to crap on various posts from the "younger" Gamers; but anyone who says that their gaming time won't be changing "anytime soon" either has little to no responsibilities right now, or are planning on going Professional as a Gamer, or they're just naive.
Gaming is a hobby. Life is real. Gaming time increases and decreases depending on the demands of Real Life. That's how hobbies work. There's nothing wrong with that. When I was younger, it was nothing for me to put enough time into my Gaming to simulate the 40+ hour work weeks that I pull now. But the career funds the hobby. I was not one of the "lucky" ones who could turn my hobby into my career.
But that's how it goes. I still love Gaming. My wife and I love running around in our MMO's together when we can. It's our hobby, and even though we cannot spend as much time logged in as we'd like, we still log in most every night for at least a couple of hours.
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have absolutely no idea how code and programming work so keep that in mind, but everyone knows Server upkeep is expensive and eventually Zenimax/Bethesda are going to make a decision just like so many other companies have done before. There's no telling how many years down the line it will be before this happens, but regardless. When the Game Servers are eventually shut down in order to make way for some other title or other reason, would it be possible to release one final update to our install files, making it possible to launch it as an offline Singleplayer experience?
The three faction questlines would still exist for you to do. Craglorn can be remade so you can complete it's Questline by yourself. Cyrodiil and the Imperial City, as well as the other DLC zones can remain explorable with it's PvE Quests but the Multiplayer mechanics are removed.
Really though this is just me being fearful of the future, considering I'm becoming attached to my characters and their progress.
I wouldnt worry too much.WoW has been around for a very long time,and I expect ESO will be too.0 -
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✭I figure, if Runes of Magic is still alive, ESO will be alive for a long, long time.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...1 -
rootimus✭✭✭✭✭Molag_Crow wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Not all games go down the crapper regardless of how crappy they may get.
o.O
Did UltimaJoe's forum account get hacked?
Why?
Because if naming and shaming were allowed on this forum, I would have replied to the thread asking what a superfan is with his name.Even on the internet, clear communication is important; it can be the difference between "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" and "helping your uncle jack off a horse"; the difference between "knowing your s***" and "knowing you're s***".
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SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Technically, this is actually a lot easier than most realize. All they would have to do is to release the server side code to the public.
That way, you could run your own server on your PC and connect to it locally. There would be no need for any coding changes, the game would simply point to your local PC instead of the current ZOS servers.
Even better, that would allow you to host a server on your LAN and have multiple people play together.
And if the suits at ZOS are really adventurous, they could even allow people to host their own *public* servers ...
PS: ID software has done this with many of their titles ...Edited by SirAndy on June 7, 2016 9:47PM0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Wife, family, children, career - lots of things, which will change your life in ways, you would never have expected. And with those you might play 40hrs/month, if you are lucky. You will become a casual gamer or you might have to face a divorce rather quickly. Having a partner is a huge change in every life, and I guess, having a son or a daughter or both is a life changing event, nothing will ever be the same again. I do not say this to scare you, but you might just feel something new - real happiness - and this will turn your focus on other things than gaming. There is nothing like being loved and to love - and this means happiness. I do not mean infatuation with it, but real love - infatuation will cease, but real love lasts.
Exactly this. I used to be a hardcore gamer until my early 20's, I went to Uni, worked a fulltime job, yet still manage to play dozens of hours a week (on the expense of sleep and taking laptop with me to work and uni) That was 6 years ago, before i got married and had children. Life is totally different now, even though my wife is gaming too when we have some time - it's exactly that now - when we have "time". If someone told me that 6 years ago i'd just laugh at them and say "Nah, i know myself too well - that'll never happen"
Heard this story too many times from too many people and from my own experience, for it not to be true on a widespread basis
Considering I've only ever had one girl return my affection only to eventually drop me for someone better, I've got a pretty concrete prediction of the rest of my adulthood when it pertains to finding a long term partner. And even with a full time job I'll still have free time to waste. Not everyone manages to land a career with a loving wife and mini-me's.SlayerTheDragon wrote: »What is the point of this post?
What's the point of a lot of these threads? This is General Discussion and this is a legitimate topic of discussion.
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TheUrbanWizard✭✭✭✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Wife, family, children, career - lots of things, which will change your life in ways, you would never have expected. And with those you might play 40hrs/month, if you are lucky. You will become a casual gamer or you might have to face a divorce rather quickly. Having a partner is a huge change in every life, and I guess, having a son or a daughter or both is a life changing event, nothing will ever be the same again. I do not say this to scare you, but you might just feel something new - real happiness - and this will turn your focus on other things than gaming. There is nothing like being loved and to love - and this means happiness. I do not mean infatuation with it, but real love - infatuation will cease, but real love lasts.
@Lysette I have a wife and two young children which have changed my life immeasurably, yet everyone needs a, lets call it a hobby, even a release from real life.
I've found mine in this game and hope it continues for many years. It fits what I am am looking for in my downtime, and is a real switch off from real life, which everyone knows gives you good and bad. I get what the OP is saying.0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
Wife, family, children, career - lots of things, which will change your life in ways, you would never have expected. And with those you might play 40hrs/month, if you are lucky. You will become a casual gamer or you might have to face a divorce rather quickly. Having a partner is a huge change in every life, and I guess, having a son or a daughter or both is a life changing event, nothing will ever be the same again. I do not say this to scare you, but you might just feel something new - real happiness - and this will turn your focus on other things than gaming. There is nothing like being loved and to love - and this means happiness. I do not mean infatuation with it, but real love - infatuation will cease, but real love lasts.
this is true @Lysette I used to play the games so much now I feel privileged if I can play for a couple hours on my off day when my fiancé is at work. Though I attribute it to wedding being close and tying up loose ends etc. but definitely cant play as often as I would like. Both her and I own eso and play it so its not that she doesn't play games either. We just get busy haha.0 -
Mirelurk✭✭✭✭DannyLV702 wrote: »How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life ...
Or even worse, stuck near the Belkarth wayshrine for eternity listening to that annoying NPC whingeing about losing her shirt.Knights of Nirn | Daggerfall Covenant | PC | NA server
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Diozaels✭✭DannyLV702 wrote: »How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol
Kinda how Cyrodiil is... If you don't make your way to areas of the map that are marked for battle, then it is entirely possible to run from one side of the map to the other without engaging another player, sometimes even NPC's. As much as Cyrodiil is supposed to be WPvP, it's not. I really wish they released with PvP servers like they advertised during development (not even talking about the 'justice system').
As a single player experience, I'd much rather play any of the previous ES games before this. It's not a terrible game, but it is to linear compared to the other games. If they scaled all the zones then that would fix that a bit, but you'd still be kinda screwed by the themed quests in each zone connecting to each other (Vanilla ESO).0 -
SahrotRein✭✭✭✭Great, now I have this odd feel of despair and anxiety, lol. Why bother playing the game and spending money if it will eventually get shut down, this makes the whole life meaningless too! Why bother living if we're gonna die in the end. Good old single player games...
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bedlom✭✭✭✭✭
✭IDK its ESO so as long as its the only ESO it will have enough players to keep going.
Look at WOW, that game ain't gonna shut down until all there players have moved to the next big Blizzard MMO.
Even still despite how quickly the game gets boring (for me) WOW has more subscribers than most others.
And this is a game that has no housing (garrisons dont count)
No guild housing, pfft! Not for me thanks but it aint slowing them down.
And in the world of video games TES has alot more respect and admiration than WOW.
It is after all the best out of only a few innovative
Game franchises of all time.
So all in all I ain't worried about that at all, ESO forever : )1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I was mistaken @danno8
"Essentially, the new exemption states that if you have lawfully bought a game, either physically or digitally, then, once the copyright owner has "ceased to provide access to an external computer server necessary to facilitate an authentication process to enable local gameplay" you may work around the copy protection to let you play the game."
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/10/28/legally-you-can-now-grant-new-life-to-dead-games
seems to only apply to single player games. Circumventing the online authentication process... it's a step in the right direction through.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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I'm one of those old school Goth guys. So I saw this post and it warmed my heart.Great, now I have this odd feel of despair and anxiety, lol. Why bother playing the game and spending money if it will eventually get shut down, this makes the whole life meaningless too! Why bother living if we're gonna die in the end. Good old single player games...
Wat is lyf anymoar?
I love this post for the sheer futility embraced by @Runaan 's words.
So I've summarized it into an even more pure expression:
Together, we have achieved perfection.Everything dies.
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baratron✭✭✭✭✭
✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
Unless you two know each other well, this seems an oddly patronising response. I've been gaming for 33 years. Married, own a house with a mortgage, have to pay my bills... I'm definitely an adult, but I still have plenty of fun.
In fact, tomorrow morning I'm leaving for a music festival. I'm pretty sure that when I was a teenager going to festivals, it was only teens and 20-somethings there. Now, the audience ranges from 5 to 75 and it's not unusual to see two- and three-generation families. My husband and I, aged 40 this year, are going with my mother, aged 69 this year. We're going to live in a tent and listen to heavy metal for 4 days because it's a cheap way of seeing a large number of bands.
Life is changing. There's no longer a need for responsible adults with families to give up their own hobbies to raise children the way my mum did. You might decide to remain childfree by choice, or to raise kids in a multiple adult family. Even if you go for traditional monogamous opposite-sex marriage, 2.4 children, white picket fence etc, you don't need to give up your own personality and interests.
Gaming and role-playing aren't just for young people.Guildmaster of the UESP Guild on the North American PC/Mac Server 2350+ CP & also found on the European PC/Mac Server 1700+ CP
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✭✭✭✭✭6-7 months after the last post, game still didn't die
I call that a win"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Gedalya✭✭✭✭✭I for one would be very interested in a SP option eventually; for offline play. I've love playing from a role-playing perspective. And as a Software Engineer myself I don't see it being terribly difficult. Even Cyrodiil could see flesh and blood people's replaced by ZoS crafted bots.
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✭✭✭✭✭Think of it this way: If the servers are shut down one day it's most likely to be because so few people are still playing that ZOS cannot justify the running cost of even a single server running 1 copy of each map.
Chances are when that happens you (you being anyone reading this) will be one of the people who have stopped playing and you'll no longer care.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭I have absolutely no idea how code and programming work so keep that in mind, but everyone knows Server upkeep is expensive and eventually Zenimax/Bethesda are going to make a decision just like so many other companies have done before. There's no telling how many years down the line it will be before this happens, but regardless. When the Game Servers are eventually shut down in order to make way for some other title or other reason, would it be possible to release one final update to our install files, making it possible to launch it as an offline Singleplayer experience?
The three faction questlines would still exist for you to do. Craglorn can be remade so you can complete it's Questline by yourself. Cyrodiil and the Imperial City, as well as the other DLC zones can remain explorable with it's PvE Quests but the Multiplayer mechanics are removed.
Really though this is just me being fearful of the future, considering I'm becoming attached to my characters and their progress.
Eh... if games like Rift, The Secret World, Lineage, Wildstar, Aion, Eve Online, Dungeons & Dragons Online, and so so many others can manage to keep their servers up and running years after most people have forgotten that they exist, then I don't think we have to worry about ESO shutting down any time in the near future. By my estimation, ESO seems to be doing pretty well, or at least a hell of a lot better than all the ones I just named.0 -
Fudly_budly✭✭✭✭DannyLV702 wrote: »How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol
Been there!! Before Vet Ranks went away. It was called Cadwell's.Rule #1: RL trumps gaming.
Rule #2: True immersion is RL.
Rule #3: RL lag is wonderful.
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✭✭Fudly_budly wrote: »DannyLV702 wrote: »How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol
Been there!! Before Vet Ranks went away. It was called Cadwell's.
could go an entire day and not see another player. didn't really mind it, though.
you actually could kill an wb without it being a major undertaking and you didn't have to worry about someone suddenly warping up and snatching the node you were about to harvest.0 -
Nova Sky✭✭✭✭✭Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
Indeed. By then World War III should either be in full swing or getting ready to let loose. ESO will be the last thing on anyone's mind once that happens.
"Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."0
