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When The Servers Eventually Shut Down...

ArchMikem
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I have absolutely no idea how code and programming work so keep that in mind, but everyone knows Server upkeep is expensive and eventually Zenimax/Bethesda are going to make a decision just like so many other companies have done before. There's no telling how many years down the line it will be before this happens, but regardless. When the Game Servers are eventually shut down in order to make way for some other title or other reason, would it be possible to release one final update to our install files, making it possible to launch it as an offline Singleplayer experience?

The three faction questlines would still exist for you to do. Craglorn can be remade so you can complete it's Questline by yourself. Cyrodiil and the Imperial City, as well as the other DLC zones can remain explorable with it's PvE Quests but the Multiplayer mechanics are removed.

Really though this is just me being fearful of the future, considering I'm becoming attached to my characters and their progress.
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  • Kalifas
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    It is a little early to worry now more so because they are making profit in the B2P space. When that day comes, I doubt they will make it offline because it would take extra work to make stuff work solo only. Even if it wasn't extra work, I don't know of many businesses that give their franchise away.

    The best you might get is emulation servers.
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  • JamieAubrey
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    Not much replayability for me as a SP game TBH
  • Lysette
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    Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.
    Edited by Lysette on June 7, 2016 12:45AM
  • Recremen
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    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.
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  • Soris
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    Well im waiting for that day. And a hero to open a private server with update 1.5 settings. Like Warhammer Online have now.
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  • smacx250
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    It is inherently a client-server architecture, and you, with just the client, can't really do a whole lot when the server goes away. They'd either need to push the server functionality into the client, or provide you the ability to run the server yourself. I think it highly unlikely that either will occur in the scenario that you describe (or for that matter - any other scenario).
  • danno8
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    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(
  • UltimaJoe777
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    You mean IF they shut down. Not all games go down the crapper regardless of how crappy they may get.
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  • Recremen
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(

    That's silly. Warcraft is a much larger IP yet people can run private servers just fine, and their income is steady regardless of the presence of private servers. No way would they block that sort of thing on such a weak premise.
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  • Acrolas
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Warcraft is a much larger IP yet people can run private servers just fine, and their income is steady regardless of the presence of private servers. No way would they block that sort of thing on such a weak premise.

    ...

    http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/7/11384154/world-of-warcraft-nostalrius-shutdown-blizzard


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    "You further agree not to access, create, or provide any other means through which the Services, including, but not limited to, any Game(s), may be used or accessed by others, such as through server emulators."

    - ESO TOS
    signing off
  • DannyLV702
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    How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol
  • DannyLV702
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    How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol
  • danno8
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    Recremen wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(

    That's silly. Warcraft is a much larger IP yet people can run private servers just fine, and their income is steady regardless of the presence of private servers. No way would they block that sort of thing on such a weak premise.

    Yes they would. Blizzard has already.

    Even WB sent a Cease and Desist to a group of players that did nothing more than remake Middle Earth using the Oblivion engine because it is a potential revenue threat and they own the LoTR IP for games.

    edit: Oh and don't underestimate the IP for ES. They sold nearly 20 million copies of Skyrim across all platforms. That's a 1 billion dollar revenue maker for Zenimax. Sure Blizzard makes multibillion a year, but 1 billion is something you need to protect.
    Edited by danno8 on June 7, 2016 3:42AM
  • FrostFallFox
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    Yeah, I would lowkey cry when ESO disappears. But then I can finally play other games and be free from this curse...
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    If they did that then 1 thing ESO could benefit from would be a creation kit, just imagine the modding potential for this game.
  • OGLezard
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    Dont worry, a private server would pop up <3 they always do lol
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    Dont worry, a private server would pop up <3 they always do lol

    After 2 years and a lot of forum fights followed by random shut downs . Emulators are a hassle . This game just started , wouldn't worry op .
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    How sad would that be though? Wandering cyrodiil, all empty with no sign of life or the names of players you are used to seeing other than you and maybe the guards. Fml that's a sad thought even though it's just a game lol

    On the bright side, no more lag. :P

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    Edited by Xylphan on June 7, 2016 4:54AM
  • Recremen
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(

    That's silly. Warcraft is a much larger IP yet people can run private servers just fine, and their income is steady regardless of the presence of private servers. No way would they block that sort of thing on such a weak premise.

    Yes they would. Blizzard has already.

    Even WB sent a Cease and Desist to a group of players that did nothing more than remake Middle Earth using the Oblivion engine because it is a potential revenue threat and they own the LoTR IP for games.

    edit: Oh and don't underestimate the IP for ES. They sold nearly 20 million copies of Skyrim across all platforms. That's a 1 billion dollar revenue maker for Zenimax. Sure Blizzard makes multibillion a year, but 1 billion is something you need to protect.

    Ah, didn't know about the Blizzard shutdowns. I know that some games HAVE historically released their server code after shutting down, however, so I'm basing it off of that. Since the MMO version isn't at all hitting the same crowd as the single-player games, I don't really think it would be a hit to revenue at all.
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  • Kanar
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(

    Not making ESO available single player has nothing to do with "IP". You are aware that there are many single player elder scrolls games? It's not like releasing a server executable gives the user any rights to the IP or "control" over it.

    ESO would never be made single player because there is nothing in it for Bethesda or Zenimax, just a headache and extra work to allow the server to run on random hardware/software environments.
  • nimander99
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    This game is gonna be around for a long time bud.
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  • Iphin
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    Hopefully the next Elder Scrolls game is out by then?

    I think that ESO will be popular enough to keep it going for a very long time, though. Especially continually adding new content and DLC.
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  • rootimus
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    Not all games go down the crapper regardless of how crappy they may get.

    o.O

    Did UltimaJoe's forum account get hacked?
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  • Molag_Crow
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    rootimus wrote: »
    Not all games go down the crapper regardless of how crappy they may get.

    o.O

    Did UltimaJoe's forum account get hacked?

    Why?
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  • Lysette
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    Do not worry about things which are well in the 2020s - for now ESO is just getting to a state, where you can call it a production environment - so far it was more like a beta.
  • ArchMikem
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.

    I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.
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  • Lysette
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Life is changing, ArchMikem, in a couple of years you will have other interests and the focus of your life will be on other things than gaming. Don't worry about this yet.

    I'm 24 and I've been gaming for well over a decade. I highly doubt a couple more years down the road will cause me to suddenly put video games on the backburner, but I get your point nevertheless.

    Wife, family, children, career - lots of things, which will change your life in ways, you would never have expected. And with those you might play 40hrs/month, if you are lucky. You will become a casual gamer or you might have to face a divorce rather quickly. Having a partner is a huge change in every life, and I guess, having a son or a daughter or both is a life changing event, nothing will ever be the same again. I do not say this to scare you, but you might just feel something new - real happiness - and this will turn your focus on other things than gaming. There is nothing like being loved and to love - and this means happiness. I do not mean infatuation with it, but real love - infatuation will cease, but real love lasts.
    Edited by Lysette on June 7, 2016 9:10AM
  • SlayerTheDragon
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    What is the point of this post? ESO is on the up and up. And as far as MMOs go, it really is one of the best (despite its issues).

    No need to worry about these things.
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    While from the look of it such an eventuality will be years and years away, I do hope they release the server code so that folks with the ability can run private servers. It's always nice to have things around for posterity.

    The Elder Scrolls IP is simply to valuable to ever let it be in control by anyone other than the owner of the IP.

    I know how it sounds, but if people are playing some private ESO server then they are getting an Elder Scrolls fix without paying the owner of the IP, when they could be buying/playing another game with the Elder Scrolls IP that could be making the IP owner money.

    In the even of a game closure, it is unlikely you will ever see private servers of this title. :(

    I don't know @danno8 ... I think there is a law that permits players to run private servers of games no longer hosted by the original IP holder. I did a quick search but couldn't find the source of that info. Maybe someone else knows.
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  • Rune_Relic
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    The danger period was 3-6 months or so ago.
    They have bottomed out now and starting to make progress financially and game wise IMHO.
    Wrothgar pretty much saved their arse.

    Barring incredible naivety, stupidity and arrogance....I think its all plain sailing for the most part and ESOs future is now secure.
    Plus I think they have realised they can use the prodect as a self financing test/reserach vehicle too.
    Normally such things come at great expense with extremely limited scope.
    So this only makes the quality of future network games all the more probable.
    Edited by Rune_Relic on June 7, 2016 10:27AM
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