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Using poisons disables sneak?!

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PVPing tonight and applying poisons to my weapons had a very strange effect: Whenever I hit an enemy player and the poison ticked off, I couldn't got into hide while the dot was running AND for the cooldown period afterwards. With Vicecannon set equipped the no-crouch-time even scales up to 15 seconds which is almost an eternity in PVP. And since I don't equip just ONE bottle of poison on my weapon but a whole stack, I continuously use poison again while in a fight which means I cannot go in hide at all.

Is this really intended or a bug?
  • LegacyDM
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    Sounds like the cloak stealth dot bug is back. Or maybe never left...
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  • STEVIL
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    Which poison was being used?

    Specifically did it apply effect back on your character or just affect the target.
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  • Duiwel
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Sounds like the cloak stealth dot bug is back. Or maybe never left...

    It's worse now.

    I didn't realise it was a factor until last night when my cloak only worked 1 out of every 6 or 7 casts in a town ( i had a pretty large bounty because I didn't care if witnesses saw me murder ) I can just shadowy disguise out right? Wrong :neutral:

    Lost about 15k ( that's all I had on me, the bounty was still like 3-4k after that and I was broke on the char...

    Nice
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  • visionality
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    I tried a lot of different poisons, effect was always the same. During the dot-phase and the cooldown-phase, going in sneak is not possible. Cloaking works for me though (although not every time as it seems broken)
  • Bdawwg
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    You shouldn't be able to remain hidden while you have a dot effect on someone else. You're technically damaging them, how can you possibly be hidden while doing that. In cloak yeah that would work but not normal stealth.
  • STEVIL
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    Bdawwg wrote: »
    You shouldn't be able to remain hidden while you have a dot effect on someone else. You're technically damaging them, how can you possibly be hidden while doing that. In cloak yeah that would work but not normal stealth.

    Hmmm... good point.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Bdawwg wrote: »
    You shouldn't be able to remain hidden while you have a dot effect on someone else. You're technically damaging them, how can you possibly be hidden while doing that. In cloak yeah that would work but not normal stealth.

    No, just no.....you aren't "damaging" them, you Damaged them. It's Poison not hail of arrows, you applied it, you left, it should not keep you from sneaking.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    "I poisoned the kings drink but now I cant hide because obviously I'm glowing with: hey it's me the guy that poisoned you..."

    "after stabbing the master with a poison dipped dagger and disappearing into the crowd I find myself unable to walk softly, even in my socks it sounded as if I had bells strapped to my feet..."

    It's Poison not a channeled spell or thrown ability, it is applied, if you are able to break line of sight you should be able to sneak.
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  • Bdawwg
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    But the poison has continuing effects therefore each time the effect procs you come out of stealth.
  • STEVIL
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    I think the decision to keep the name POISON for a magical concoction is going to haunt ESO.

    Idont think anybody expects blood craze (name) stick-em-then-heal-then-bleed to ket you crouch and sneak ehile it is still cycling.

    But a "poison" doing the same thing causes "real world" thoughts to creep into someyhing just as magical.

    Maybe if they had named them arcanoils, or Meerwhoopahoniads people would not be injecting kitchen sink logic.

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  • holosoul
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    Crouch and cloak shouldn't bug out on DoTs, cloak is already a weak enough mechanic without making it impossible to reapply in low aggro combat
  • dwtdwtdwt
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    This is happening with the Vicecannon set. The set is meant to do damage when you crit from a crouching position, but while the poison DoT is in effect, you cannot go back into crouch. This should not be the case.
    I am asking the developers to look into this mechanic and change it. The Deadly Venom HoT should not break crouch. You should be able to crouch (even if not fully hidden), regardless if you have this leeching DoT/HoT on or not.

    Any thoughts?
    Edited by dwtdwtdwt on June 7, 2016 6:25AM
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  • Zaldan
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    according to ZO$ all abilities breaks stealth or it's bugged and should be reported ;) or did they go back on that statement?
    Edited by Zaldan on June 6, 2016 6:00PM
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