Should the New Blocking Icon be on a Toggle?
DerAlleinTiger
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Should the new giant floating shield that shows up when you block be on a toggle for those who don't want to see it for any reason?
While I've heard a handful of people say it's kinda useful for them, I know many more who have voiced their displeasure. For any number of reasons. From 'it's just plain ugly' to 'it's yet another nagging and intrusive UI element I have to worry about while tanking.'
There was a poll just like this on the PTS forum that got a 20/80 split between 'keep it' and 'get rid of it or toggle.' But now that it's gone live and there doesn't seem to be a toggle (and there were no responses from ZOS on the original poll), I feel it's only fitting to ask here in the general chat.
Personally, I'm rather disappointed that we were able to customize so many of the new UI elements and toggle them on or off, but this one remains on whether we like it or not.
PLEASE NOTE: This has been in the game for a LONG TIME in PvP! You were able to see this shield in front of enemy players LONG BEFORE this update, and so you could already tell when they were blocking! This only is applying it to your own character in PvE, where it's frankly a bit excessive.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm rather aware that I'm holing the right mouse button down. I really don't need a giant flashy shield in front of my character to know this. If you like it, that's cool. Keep it on. But I'd rather like to turn it off so I don't have to have yet another nagging, glowing piece of UI while I'm trying to hold everything together as a tank.
Edited by DerAlleinTiger on June 2, 2016 2:54AM While I've heard a handful of people say it's kinda useful for them, I know many more who have voiced their displeasure. For any number of reasons. From 'it's just plain ugly' to 'it's yet another nagging and intrusive UI element I have to worry about while tanking.'
There was a poll just like this on the PTS forum that got a 20/80 split between 'keep it' and 'get rid of it or toggle.' But now that it's gone live and there doesn't seem to be a toggle (and there were no responses from ZOS on the original poll), I feel it's only fitting to ask here in the general chat.
Personally, I'm rather disappointed that we were able to customize so many of the new UI elements and toggle them on or off, but this one remains on whether we like it or not.
PLEASE NOTE: This has been in the game for a LONG TIME in PvP! You were able to see this shield in front of enemy players LONG BEFORE this update, and so you could already tell when they were blocking! This only is applying it to your own character in PvE, where it's frankly a bit excessive.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm rather aware that I'm holing the right mouse button down. I really don't need a giant flashy shield in front of my character to know this. If you like it, that's cool. Keep it on. But I'd rather like to turn it off so I don't have to have yet another nagging, glowing piece of UI while I'm trying to hold everything together as a tank.
Should the New Blocking Icon be on a Toggle? 298 votes
Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!
87%
262 votes
No, I like it and so should everyone else. Player choice is bad!
12%
36 votes
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!It should be removed from everything but Staves, as that gives it a ward-ish look, even then, a toggle.
It truly baffles me how truly little player opinion matters in almost every respect. Scores of people protested this even before it went live. Scores of people protested many things, Yet all they got for their Protests? Being told why they were wrong, why zos was right, and that they were just going to have to deal with it.3 -
Aquanova✭✭✭✭✭No, I like it and so should everyone else. Player choice is bad!The only reason I voted "No" is because I think it's unnecessary. It's just a visual that has no real bearing on actual game play.
There are far more important things for ZOS to work on imo.NA/PC1 -
Solid_Metal✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The only reason I voted "No" is because I think it's unnecessary. It's just a visual that has no real bearing on actual game play.
There are far more important things for ZOS to work on imo.
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C0wrex✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Please give us the option to take it off
That's one of the few things I disliked about the patch (Although I really loved the rest of the changes)"We are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will, to strive, to seek and not to yield."
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SahrotRein✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Everything new as of DB update should be a toggle, lol.Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines.- A Dominion of peace. The fair and just rule of Tamriel4 -
BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!I would like a toggle please. I don't need my hand held to let me know when I'm holding down my block button and I'm fairly sure NPC enemies don't need to "see" it
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!It looks so bad.3 -
Stoltverd✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Pleeeeeease let's not forget the ugly heavy attack bow indicator!!!!
Edit:
I actually did a thread about both things: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269204/hey-zenimax-focusing-on-pvp-doesnt-mean-forgetting-other-play-styles
i didn't know my suggestion WAS ALREADY THE RULE BEFORE THE PATCH!!!!! WTF ZENIMAX??????Edited by Stoltverd on June 2, 2016 3:58AM1 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!I'm sorry, I didn't read any of your post... I'm really tired. But yes, it needs to be a toggle. Choice is good!Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord2 -
Stoltverd✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The bow indicator:
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Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Greetings everyone. For some reason I don't see the shield and that is great because I didn't want it. I will try to figure out how I have avoided the new shield visual and help you get rid of it.2 -
Melilotta✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!For me this huge shield is terribly annoying. And not useful at all.
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!It doesn't bother me, but i see no harm in making it optional.1 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!It needs to be a toggle, along with many other VFX (bow indictor, buffs/debuffs). People who want it can toggle it on, but the rest of us shouldn't be forced to have it.2 -
baratron✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Personally, I like the GIGANTIC SHIELD OF DOOM, but then I play Healers who don't block very much. I'm pretty sure if I ran Tanks instead, I'd go quite insane.
I'm not sure why Zenimax keep introducing new UI elements and then not giving us the choice about whether to have them or not. Something like this really should be a toggle. Just like the ability to be able to go around the world without seeing other people's @names. UI should be fully customisable without the use of addons.Guildmaster of the UESP Guild on the North American PC/Mac Server 2350+ CP & also found on the European PC/Mac Server 1700+ CP
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DerAlleinTiger✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The bow indicator:
*snipped out the pics*
I'm actually pretty sure that was in the game before this update. I seem to recall seeing that on my characters who used a bow, at least. Personally, I don't mind it that much since the bow is the the only weapon type where you can hold the heavy attack at the ready indefinitely and it's nice to have a heads-up for when it's fully charged. But there's nothing wrong with having an option to turn it off, I suppose. Either way, I've mostly just ignored it since I'm not heavy attacking with a bow most of the time. As a tank, however, I'm going to be seeing this silly floating shield icon for... oh, about 90% of my dungeoning time. That's gonna get old real quick...0 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The only reason I voted "No" is because I think it's unnecessary. It's just a visual that has no real bearing on actual game play.
There are far more important things for ZOS to work on imo.
If that's the case (which it is), then WHY did they implement it at all?Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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DerAlleinTiger✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The poll choices are very childish written... a simple yes or no would be enough.
When you think of a decent reason beyond "People should like it because I do!" for being against more player choice and customization, let me know.
And no, 'They're gonna waste resources!' is not even close to decent. This is a big development team who all have their own individual job and development focus. I'm doubtful that someone working on game balance and quest bugs is the same person who'd be coding a quick toggle function on a player effect. It's a cheap cop-out and I'm tired of hearing it from people who seem to think that everyone on a design team do the exact same job or even can do the exact same job as everyone else on the team. Even if the person potentially coding quests is the same person who'd be coding a combat effect, I find it hard to believe that it's difficult at all to add a toggle for a new UI object when this update has already added MANY toggle-able UI objects. It could probably be a day project for an intern, if that.Edited by DerAlleinTiger on June 2, 2016 10:11AM1 -
Stoltverd✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!I agree. This is a AAA mmorpg. Owned by a big corporation that have a lot of money and a lot of employees.
It's not like they have a small team, nor that all team members have the same responsibilities.0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!I would like the Shield thing to be a Toggle. I know when I am blocking, I don't need a visual indicator.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!The only reason I voted "No" is because I think it's unnecessary. It's just a visual that has no real bearing on actual game play.
There are far more important things for ZOS to work on imo.
I find it to be distracting in first person @Aquanova
They lowered it from the 3rd person perspective, but it's still intrusive. Especially for those seeking a clean "realistic" UI.Edited by Gidorick on June 3, 2016 5:12AMWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
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Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!All combat cues should have individual toggles, with separate toggles for "Show on Self" and "Show on Enemies".
Now that's quite interesting, I didn't realise that! (I'm usually too far away from enemy players, or just already dead, to have noticed.)DerAlleinTiger wrote: »PLEASE NOTE: This has been in the game for a LONG TIME in PvP! You were able to see this shield in front of enemy players LONG BEFORE this update, and so you could already tell when they were blocking!UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Yes! Make it optional, like so many other things that should be optional aswell. Player feedback is actually a good thing most of the time ZoS.Edited by Maotti on June 3, 2016 12:44PMPC EU0 -
DroxxicSoul ShrivenYes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!I don't see any need for it in the first place and I would like the ability to toggle this thing off.0 -
Acharnor✭✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!To be honest I don't even really notice it. However, as possible any/all things like this should be optional on/off. Not even quite sure of the purpose of this one.Celebrate for life is short but sweet for certain.0 -
Stoltverd✭✭✭Yes, more customization is never a bad thing. Keep it turned on if you like it!Oo
You don't notice the block indicator? Oo
Or the bow indicator?1
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