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Dawnbreaker/meteor and their morphs

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Parafrost
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Instead of giving one skill line strictly towards either magicka/stamina classes, why not just do physical dmg on one morph and magic dmg on the other? Just flat magic dmg or even keep fire dmg. Dawnbreaker of smiting sounds fitting for a magicka ultimate, since dawnbreaker gives weapon dmg while slotted. As for meteor, either morph sounds fitting for either physical or magic dmg.
  • ToRelax
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    Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.
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  • Asmael
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    "We want more options! Give us a stamina morph of X!"

    *X ability changed to stamina only*

    "Yeah, so now, if you're magicka, you can only pick Meteor, and if you're stamina, you can only pick Dawnbreaker, when you could do both before. Options please?"

    Way to go.
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  • mr_wazzabi
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

    Although this may be true, Dawnbreaker is a holy magical sword, which an avatar of the goddess Meridia herself. Doesn't sound very physical or stamina to me :p
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  • RebornV3x
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    Both Meteor and Dawnbreaker should have a stam and magicka morph I mean it makes since.
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  • Rilmarshim
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    I totaly agree with this separation. If everything will have either magicka and stamina morph - where is the difference between them? It will make magicka and stamina builds less unique.
    But I still want stamina whip for DK's ^^
  • Dark_Aether
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

    Although this may be true, Dawnbreaker is a holy magical sword, which an avatar of the goddess Meridia herself. Doesn't sound very physical or stamina to me :p

    You just said yourself "sword", that alone makes it qualified to be a physical ability.
  • emily3989
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    For meteor, the magika morph could be like a magic comet whereas the stamina morph could be more like a large bolder falling from the sky.
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  • Parafrost
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    Supersnake_Lx wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

    Although this may be true, Dawnbreaker is a holy magical sword, which an avatar of the goddess Meridia herself. Doesn't sound very physical or stamina to me :p

    You just said yourself "sword", that alone makes it qualified to be a physical ability.

    Exactly. lol
  • Parafrost
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

    Earth dmg could fall under physical dmg since its earth.
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    It would be kind of cool if every non-weapon, non-armor, non-class skill line, was designed to benefit stamina and magicka. I'd like to see a couple of magicka morphs/passives sprinkled into fighter's guild/WW and some stamina morphs/passives sprinkled into mage's guild/vampire.

    I am not buying the whole calling a meteor has to be magic. They can just redo the animation to emphasize the physical aspect of the damage like they did with the Sorc skill hurricane.
    Edited by timidobserver on May 28, 2016 6:49PM
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  • Shadesofkin
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    I rather support the distinction, but I lament that it may lead to entire groups of new players ignoring the Fighters Guild storyline.

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  • Dyride
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    No, DBOS is still going to hit hard on a magicka DPS build despite not getting CP, and includes a knockdown.

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    1. Vangy
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      Flawless is for pve. Dbos is for pvp. It's like asking for a stamina morph of whip. Not gona happen. Either way you are taking away something from one group of players. Just use one of the other 981939301 magicka ultimates already in the game please. All stamina has is dawnbreaker and leap/one morph of incap. That's like 2 and a half skills out of like 20 ultimates.
      Edited by Vangy on May 28, 2016 6:45PM
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    2. ToRelax
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      Parafrost wrote: »
      ToRelax wrote: »
      Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

      Earth dmg could fall under physical dmg since its earth.

      Hm, did you read my post? ^^
      I don't have a problem with a rock dealing physical damage, it just doesn't make any sense to me to scale rocks falling from the sky with mighty CP and armor penetration.
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    3. Refuse2GrowUp
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      I think every skill should have three morphs. Two for whatever the primary intent of the skill is and one as an alternative. I.E. Meteor could have two magicka morphs and a stam morph. DK whip could have the two current magicka morphs and a stam, as could Sorc's chrystal shards/blast. Same could go the other way with stam skills like the (new) Dawnbreakers, with the two current stam morphs and a new majicka morph, and even weapon skills. Sure, it would take some creativity on the devs part to create magicka morphs for traditionally stam skills and stamina morphs for traditionally magicka morphs, but I think it would really open the game up in terms of options and build diversity.

      Hell, I would pay a DLC fee to see separate PvP and PvE profiles and have expanded skill morph options.
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      Parafrost wrote: »
      Instead of giving one skill line strictly towards either magicka/stamina classes, why not just do physical dmg on one morph and magic dmg on the other? Just flat magic dmg or even keep fire dmg. Dawnbreaker of smiting sounds fitting for a magicka ultimate, since dawnbreaker gives weapon dmg while slotted. As for meteor, either morph sounds fitting for either physical or magic dmg.

      Id like to see that with ALL class ultimates. atm the only ult in the game (live) is dk's dragon leap.
    5. Parafrost
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      Ep1kMalware wrote: »
      Parafrost wrote: »
      Instead of giving one skill line strictly towards either magicka/stamina classes, why not just do physical dmg on one morph and magic dmg on the other? Just flat magic dmg or even keep fire dmg. Dawnbreaker of smiting sounds fitting for a magicka ultimate, since dawnbreaker gives weapon dmg while slotted. As for meteor, either morph sounds fitting for either physical or magic dmg.

      Id like to see that with ALL class ultimates. atm the only ult in the game (live) is dk's dragon leap.

      make all ultimates do 1 type of dmg like ultimate damage. To make it count towards cp, they can base it off of highest stat. If your highest stat is stam then the mighty cp will affect the ultimates damage, vice versa for magicka.
    6. Parafrost
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      ToRelax wrote: »
      Parafrost wrote: »
      ToRelax wrote: »
      Summoning a Meteor doesn't exactly sound like a stamina action though, which physical damage would imply in this game. And since I don't really want either magicka or stamina to have more options than the other, I'm actually fine with Dawnbreaker being stamina only.

      Earth dmg could fall under physical dmg since its earth.

      Hm, did you read my post? ^^
      I don't have a problem with a rock dealing physical damage, it just doesn't make any sense to me to scale rocks falling from the sky with mighty CP and armor penetration.

      i understand what you said im just stating my thoughts on it lol. unmorphed version of stone fist is physical dmg.
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